Help with playing like *this*

[Mighty_Joker]

First of all, pleae see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFxUoPqnXEU


Now, up to where he says "You need more...", about 42 seconds in, could any of you pro and veteran drummers give me some insight on how he is playing that? What sort of rudiments is he stringing together on the snare, and exactly what is his left foot doing on the hats? It looks like just a straight open and close, but there seems to be a "crackle" on every other step.

I would love to work up to something like this style of playing, but I just don't know what I should be working on, so any advice would be great, thanks.

MJ

[vadrum]

im not sure if i have the right spot in the video, but if you are talking about the pattern just before the break i believe he is playing alternating singles w/ his hands and dropping bass and cymbal within the phrase. like this:

BD/CYM BD/CYM RL RL

the phrasing is sextuplets so, think triplets 1-and-ah (etc) and instead of playing one beat per count, play two w/ alternating sticking. then replace the first 2 note (on count 1) w/ alt sticking rh = cymbal and bd, lh = cymbal and bd. you can move the bd/cymbal combination anywhere within the time for variety or in order to construct a phrase.

check out reeds syncopation book, read the eights as snare accents and quarters are bd/cym. this will help develop the ability to play this.

[Mighty_Joker]

Originally Posted by vadrum

im not sure if i have the right spot in the video, but if you are talking about the pattern just before the break i believe he is playing alternating singles w/ his hands and dropping bass and cymbal within the phrase. like this:

BD/CYM BD/CYM RL RL

the phrasing is sextuplets so, think triplets 1-and-ah (etc) and instead of playing one beat per count, play two w/ alternating sticking. then replace the first 2 note (on count 1) w/ alt sticking rh = cymbal and bd, lh = cymbal and bd. you can move the bd/cymbal combination anywhere within the time for variety or in order to construct a phrase.

check out reeds syncopation book, read the eights as snare accents and quarters are bd/cym. this will help develop the ability to play this.

Thanks for the reply. I was actually talking about everything up to that point, not just one particular part. I have no idea where to start playing like that.

I'll look into that syncopation book, thanks

[jeffwj]

I've mentioned this book before, but Advanced Concepts by Kim Plainfield may be a great start if you are looking into that style of drumming.

[hungrypo]

Syncopated Rolls for the Modern Drummer - JIm Blackley. awesome book, it really opened up my understanding of the drum kit.

[jazzsnob]

The kim plainfield book is a great suggestion as far as the ostinato and musical ideas go, but wherever your playing is at you probably have a good ten more years working at stick control before you start doing stuff like that.


GOOD LUCK

[vadrum]

Originally Posted by Mighty_Joker

Thanks for the reply. I was actually talking about everything up to that point, not just one particular part. I have no idea where to start playing like that.

I'll look into that syncopation book, thanks

sorry, i misunderstood your question.

rudiments to practice/used: single stroke roll, long roll, paradiddle (and its variations)
im not familiar w/ the aforementioned book but if it includes sections on odd not groupings and things like that im sure it will help. practice your rudiments on the drumset and move your hands to alt sources like bd/cym within each rudiment, then combine them to create phrases. any kind of practice like this will help. ted reed is a good book if you are willing to work thru the many variations, gary chafees books may help also. a book w/ billy cobham solo transcriptions will help a lot too, it will at least help introduce you to some of the types of things that are used in the video.

good luck

[tamadrummer132]

i hope that you understand that that guy has probably been playing drums for 30 years and practices 5 hours a day?

but to me that solo wasnt that great.. didnt have much groove

[foursticks]

Originally Posted by hungrypo

Syncopated Rolls for the Modern Drummer - JIm Blackley. awesome book, it really opened up my understanding of the drum kit.

Agreed, that book has given me some many ideas, from just a few excersises. Gives you a true feel of the kit and the different textures you can create from it. Definatly worth investing in.

[GarrettEvans]

I looked to me that he was also playing A LOT of triplets over 16ths or 32nds.

I like trips over even notes...

RRL LRR LLR RLL RRL LRR

[h3r3tic]

Originally Posted by Mighty_Joker

First of all, pleae see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFxUoPqnXEU


Now, up to where he says "You need more...", about 42 seconds in, could any of you pro and veteran drummers give me some insight on how he is playing that? What sort of rudiments is he stringing together on the snare, and exactly what is his left foot doing on the hats? It looks like just a straight open and close, but there seems to be a "crackle" on every other step.

I would love to work up to something like this style of playing, but I just don't know what I should be working on, so any advice would be great, thanks.

MJ

Now that's a COOL DRUMMER!
loved the video bro ;)

[Blaster]

Pretty cool video
Not to many drummers that practices 5 hours a day for 30 years

[joeybeats]

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Rodney_Holmes.html

http://www.rodneyholmes.com/