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Old 07-20-2005, 12:11 AM
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I think Weird Al looks cool anyway. We wanted the 'Travis Rulez' crowd away from here.. ah well.. *sighs*
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Old 07-20-2005, 02:38 AM
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If you want to talk about tre cool then start a new thread. keep it organized. just a sugestion.
also we shouldnt judge a drummer by what they do in the band they are/were in because any good drummer knows what he should play and not play in the band he is in. just because travis barker and a lot of other drummers dont play things really hard is because they know that the music he is playing doesnt calls for it. in my opinioin (even though im NOT a blink 182 fan) travis's drumming keeps the music alot more alive and adds evergy to his band. the songs would all definitly not sound the same if he wasnt playing drums on them. And unliek most other drummers in his genre his drumming plays a mojor role in the rythm of the song and has his own unique style and sound.
Just so you know im not a harcore travis barker fan i just think his deserves credit for what he does.
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Old 07-20-2005, 03:32 AM
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ErNeStIn_182... its ok to have your own opinions on things, but there is no need for bashing other drummers or other drummers opinions. like Bernhard said, do you not like someone from frogseye view, or birdseye view... And why does it matter?

And when you call someone else not educated, rather than making yourself look 'better' it makes you look immature and even less educated than the person you said it to.

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Old 07-20-2005, 11:31 PM
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I think travis barker is good, but nothing spectacular. He seems to play well, but he isn't as good as other drummers out there. The thing is, I think that the people you were saying that think travis barker is the best drummer, I think those people are isolated in what they listen to. And If they listen to all those blink 182 styles of music than yeah...probobly travis barker would be the best drummer they know.
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:41 PM
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I think what most people's point on the board is that you can't have a discussion about Brian Blade with a "Travis Rulez" poster because they haven't heard enough of what is out there to form any other opinion. I don't hold it against anyone, it reminds me of my younger days when I thought Dave Grohl was god and that people who mentioned Peart were living in the past.
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Old 07-22-2005, 03:35 AM
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that is a hot stick,i like it....
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Old 07-22-2005, 07:51 AM
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i always played with the vic firth swizzles and thought they were cool for different grooves and stuff, never liked the unussual balance, ill have to try those to see how they fair.
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Old 07-28-2005, 01:50 PM
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Thank you! I love blink 182 and i think travis barker is a great drummer. i know hes famous and all but hes still good!
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Old 07-28-2005, 01:53 PM
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Thank you! I love blink 182 and i think travis barker is a great drummer. i know hes famous and all but hes still good! I respect your other guys' opions BUT barker is good and a good inspiration.
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Old 07-28-2005, 02:13 PM
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TRAVIS RULZ!!!! LOL, Joking.

I remember my friend (also a drummer) once saying that travis was the second fastest drummer in the world (Phil Collins was the fastest), and i burst out laughing.

of course travis is good, but imo he's not as good as some of the rock drummers around today (e.g. Chad Smith, whom i already expressed my passion for, and Brad Wilk).
all his rhythms can be played on a drum machine! he's solos always sound like a drum machine playing a couple of fast beats and semiquavers.

Personally i think Tre isn't that good but then again i prefer him to travis because he's got flavour. but then again both of them are overrated. I'm not a big fan of pop-punk anyway.
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Old 07-28-2005, 05:50 PM
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Travis Barker is really overrated. He does a good job for his band, but nothing more than this.
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Old 07-28-2005, 08:27 PM
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I'm with Stu_Strib on this one. When I look at his video clips, I'm actually very disappointed. But we all have to understand something. Just because you've reached celebrity status doesn't necessarily mean you're one of the best at your profession. Many of today's celebrities can be classified as "entertainers" rather than musician's or actors etc. I don't have a whole lot of evidence to go on regarding Travis so I'm not going to bash his drumming ability. But drumming aside, he is clearly an entertainer, an attention-getter. If you walk into a room tattooed from head to toe, with a mohawk, believe me everybody is going to notice you. He didn't get his own TV show because of his drumming, he got it because he's an entertainer with a colorful personality. Again, I haven't heard enough of his drumming to pass judgement, but the parts of it that I have heard have left me scratching my head a bit as to why he's held in such high regard.

Another guy who gets so much undue publicity as a drummer is Tommy Lee. Unfortunately, you can rank his popularity in life based on this order:

1) Size of his p*nis
2) Who he's been married to (Heather Locklear, Pam Anderson)
3) Motley Crue and the popularity of the "Big Hair Bands" of the 80's
4) Drumming

Yet, because he's a drummer, so many people think he's an awesome musician.
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Old 07-28-2005, 10:38 PM
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Indeed he is extremely talented. I like his style of play how he likes to mix things up. Some of the things he plays is completely out of the ordinary and that is why i like him.
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Old 07-29-2005, 12:36 AM
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I don't give celebrity drummers any credit musically. At the same time, you don't have to be obscure to be good.

Just thinking, what celebrity entertainers can you think of that actually have high levels of artistic talent other than looking good and having nice body parts?
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Old 07-29-2005, 01:55 AM
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I think he is overrated,but good,hes just not amazing. But i guess that might be because i listen to Prog Rock not punk.
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Old 07-29-2005, 08:23 PM
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I just recently picked up two blink-182 CD's used. I listened to Enema of the State first since I had heard it was very good and it is. Then I listened to Dude Ranch which to me is nothing special at all. Travis brought a whole new dimension to this band and I have to give him credit for that. I haven't seen the videos or listened to much else of Travis but he is definitely a talented drummer. He has a style that fits perfectly with the punk feel and raises the music to a higher level. If a drummer can have that much impact I would say he is at least very good, maybe great.
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Old 07-29-2005, 08:41 PM
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Hey Guys!
I am also new at the forum but i already read this discussion and want to show you my point of view.
I think you can't just say travis barker is a good or bad drummer. he is an outstanding drummer compared to the majority and is definitly doing a great job at blink. the grooves are not very difficult but does that make them bad? I think that simple grooves and simple riffs are a part of punk music because that makes it possible for everybody to play it.
somewhere on this page it is said that " the drummer makes or breaks a band" and in travis barkers case he definitly makes the band and thats what its all about.
I also think that not the difficulty or the speed are important to make a good groove it is only important that your drumming fits into the song or the style of music you play.

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Old 07-29-2005, 08:52 PM
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he is an outstanding drummer compared to the majority

NO HE ISN'T!!!!!!!!!

[quote=Bucks]I also think that not the difficulty or the speed are important to make a good groove it is only important that your drumming fits into the song or the style of music you play.

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It's definitely not about how simple and complex the drumming is. But remember, just cause a shirt fits you doesn't mean it looks good. Sure, Barker's playing "fits" the music, but it doesn't really sound that good to me. At least, he does a good enough job not getting too in the way of the rest of the music.
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:31 AM
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[quote=darkcherryfade]NO HE ISN'T!!!!!!!!!

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I also think that not the difficulty or the speed are important to make a good groove it is only important that your drumming fits into the song or the style of music you play.

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It's definitely not about how simple and complex the drumming is. But remember, just cause a shirt fits you doesn't mean it looks good. Sure, Barker's playing "fits" the music, but it doesn't really sound that good to me. At least, he does a good enough job not getting too in the way of the rest of the music.
Dark cherry fade you're a legend, i cant agree more another one of those overrated drummers. I saw his solo and to be honest i started to laugh cause he's on this website with all these top kick arse drummers with awesome solos and that all he has to show for himself, plus his stuff doesn't impress me at all and how he acts on his show....maybe i should stop there i would want to make any teeny boppers cry cause i'm drilling their favourite drummer! Whoops did i just say that? I think i did, oohh and i can't take it back now i've already typed it.
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:38 AM
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Actually everybody that agrees with me is a legend, i just saw this comment first and you know. And Tre cool sucks too, His technique is disgraceful! They say that when you are playing youre drums you look the same as when you're having sex, i feel sorry for the person he's shagging hehe, oh come on work with me people.
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Old 07-30-2005, 09:38 PM
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im sure he's a great drummer with his own innovative sound. but one thing i do not like to see is today's young drummers believing that barker is the highest plateau of drumming. Younger drummers will only benefit themselves and learn to dig down deeper to the tony williams and such.
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Old 07-31-2005, 12:06 AM
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Just thinking, what celebrity entertainers can you think of that actually have high levels of artistic talent other than looking good and having nice body parts?
I think Michael Jackson is pretty good. Or rather, he used to be before he was murdered by the shape-shifting alien who took his place in the late 1980s :) And the less said about his body parts the better, I've heard enough of that for a lifetime.

Also, I think Kelis is good too. Some of her album tracks are pretty dodgy, but she's a good live performer and she has the decency to hire a great live band and actually give them space to move. There's not many people who'd turn a live version of their breakthrough hit into a 10-minute instrumental jam intended to show off the skills of their individual band members.
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Old 07-31-2005, 08:59 PM
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i think travis is pretty good. He is not the best, but you have to give him credit for being as good as he is. dont be jealous or mad at him. if a drummer is good and doesnt go around acting like the messiah of drumming then he is a cool dude in my book
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Old 08-05-2005, 01:49 AM
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If you still believe that Travis isnt a good drummer watch this www.ocdrum.com.
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Old 08-05-2005, 02:59 AM
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If you still believe that Travis isnt a good drummer watch this www.ocdrum.com.
Wow, I'm embarrassed for OCdrum.

What a horrible excursion in drumming. This video demonstrates everything that is wrong with modern pop drumming and stardom-over-skill.

The best part is when he goes back under the stage and its done.

Seriously, how can any 'drummer' think that is good? I can understand the thousands of 14 year old girls in the crowd yelling their brains out. He has nice tatoos and a cool mohawk, and really cool lights.

But what does that have to do with drumming?

Horrible horrible horrible. A bunch of running 16th notes and flashing lights...big friggin' deal.

Even the drum sound is horrible. Did he even bother tuning the kick and toms? Also, there are so many fundamentally things wrong with his hi-hat setup, and his tom setups, its laughable. His strokes are even disgraceful, especially from a supposed rudimental genius.

Please do us a favor, and go on drummerworld.com and check out Bonham, Porcaro, Weckl, Smith, Drumbassadors, Gadd, Coliauta, Copeland, Chambers, Beauford, Townsley, Bissonette, Moore, Jarzombek, Lang, Minneman, Igoe, Irskine, Famularo, Mayer, Phillips, Riel, Ward, Williams, etc. etc.

Then come back and tell us how great that video is.
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:08 AM
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If you still believe that Travis isnt a good drummer watch this www.ocdrum.com.
dude, travis is definetly better than that solo, u gotta find some better stuff, that solo is easy as hell compared to wat ive seen him do live, that solo was actually really simple, ive only been playin for about 2 years and i can play that, its good to listen to when ur a beginner, but its pretty easy when ur more experienced...hes definetly an extreemly talented guy, but if u wanna prove a point about him being a really great drummer, find some better footage, cause that was childs play, im not saying im amazing, but that solo just wasnt that hard
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:12 AM
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dude, travis is definetly better than that solo, u gotta find some better stuff, that solo is easy as hell compared to wat ive seen him do live, that solo was actually really simple, ive only been playin for about 2 years and i can play that, its good to listen to when ur a beginner, but its pretty easy when ur more experienced...hes definetly an extreemly talented guy, but if u wanna prove a point about him being a really great drummer, find some better footage, cause that was childs play, im not saying im amazing, but that solo just wasnt that hard
That's the problem with Barker. Everytime I ask for somethng better, nobody can produce anything. I've now listened to every Blink 182 song and watched about 5 videos. I like ONE thing he's done in all that material (it had a cool cowbell part is all I remember).

He's funny on his show though, especially the one where his girl and the wedding planner were going on and on, and he was totally zoning and not caring one bit...
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:20 AM
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i have respect for the guy, in my opinion, its all about just feeling it, u should do whatever you want/need to get the right feel for something, and if it makes you feel good about your drumming, then thats good, just as long as his head doesnt get insanely huge like lars ulrich, and a lot of other drummers. travis hasnt, hes a pretty modest guy, ive never once heard him run his mouth about his drumming, and i think thats cool. Travis is just a drummer like tre cool, or ringo. When your starting out on a set, its good to listen to that type of stuff, but after a while you need to move on to better, more technical people.
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:16 AM
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Fact is also, that Travis Barker is by far the most clicked drummer at Drummerworld for more than three years now.

More than the double as Steve Gadd, Joey Jordison or Neil Peart....

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Fact is also, that Travis Barker is by far the most clicked drummer at Drummerworld for more than three years now.

More than the double as Steve Gadd, Joey Jordison or Neil Peart....

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WOW! it is probally because people know about travis, both for his tvshow and drumming..
i think it was a cool solo, not so tech.. but fast and cool..
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Old 08-05-2005, 02:29 PM
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WOW! it is probally because people know about travis, both for his tvshow and drumming..
i think it was a cool solo, not so tech.. but fast and cool..
In addition to people like me clicking it to figure out what all the hub-hub is about him.
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:42 PM
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The height of the hi-hats is riduculous. You can get so many sounds out of a hi hat if you can hit the edge, shoulder, bell, top with the tip of the stick, all would require a much lower position. But if he were to lower his hat, he wouldn't be able to wail on the snare drum with the crossover style, he'd have to learn to play open.
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:06 PM
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That solo of Travis that Bernhard put up recently, is wimp. The guy should spend some of his millions and take lessons on how to solo. It was rediculously bad. Also standing up to have to hit your rack tom and cymbals is not cool.
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:07 PM
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theres no need for an argument or thats what i think.

does tre do something special on drums? does he do any solo´s? the only good thing ive seen on tre he is kind of fast and has sometimes some god rythms with toms as you can hear on jesus of suburbia.

travis is FAST, creative, cool etc...

is that enough for u? or do i night to argument more? its just my OPINION if u dont respect it its cause you are not educated.
Ok I think travis is kind of a poser transplants you call that PUNK I call it crap ya maybe Tim armstrong is in it but whatever I've heard Tre Cool do a drum solo and I'll tell you when hes not playing punky pop songs he is Amazing Tre cool is also FAST, creative, cool etc... his old stuff on green day is pretty easy but he has some moments when it comes to the toms he is so fast in almost every song on the dookie record hes going crazy with the cymbals and the toms for such a small kit back on the old records thats pretty good Tre Cool deosn't want to impress anybody he just wants to play drums for his band some of you may have not heard Tre play out of green day but if you do you would be surprised since he owns more then a dozen drum kits Travis is good and I've heard travis do his best on drums not very impressive but have you heard Tre do his best on drums untill you do we can start argueing on whos better on drums
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:40 AM
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Travis Barker RULZ!!!
No, really...
He gets the job done, fits in well with Blink 182 (If you think the band is annoying, his drumming matches perfectly, and if you think the band is great, his drumming matches your taste). He is an entertainer, and he succeeds at entertaining. He doesn't have to be an amazing drummer to earn what he has. I admire him for his business smarts. He's one of the most popular non-musician's drummers, has his own show, and his own line of clothing. He must have some amount of smarts to keep it all up. As a musician, not so good. However, as an entertainer, he's a success.
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:47 AM
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Actually I put my hi-hat the same height a little lower but I like my hi-hat to be high I thought it was a good solo there were some hard parts but other parts were really basic I hate his drum sticks though they suck the colour wears off so easily and I wasn't very impressed by the solo I thought he was better than that but hes still a very good drummer excellent drummer but I don't care my opion Tre Cool can do a hell of a lot better drum solo than that I've heard Tre do a solo before alot better than that video trust me when Tre does a solo he does a certain beat then goes all out on the toms and the cymbals I can't explain it very well heh
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Old 08-06-2005, 06:00 AM
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I honestly used to like Blink 182...but some of my friends have just got into them so much. It just makes me sick. Travis Barker is a good drummer..but maybe just a little over-rated....like saying he is the best drummer ever or what not. Not as much as Jordison though IMO. You gotta look at more drummers than just one type of genre.
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:29 PM
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personally, i thought that when he first joined blink, his take on "punk" drumming (you can't really call blink punk, but what people NOW refer to as punk) was different. i really believe the vibe he created influenced a lot of the newer drummers for emo/punk/pop-punk/screamo genre. his fills and beats were pretty damn fresh, it was very tight, fast drumming, his drums sounded awesome live and recorded and he had 'the look' to become a 'cool drummer'.

think it all just added up and he was at the beginning of this whole, new music scene. that's why i think he's been held so high in many people's eyes.

maybe i'm wrong, but that's the way i see it. i don't really LOVE the blink/transplants music, but i listen to it now and then because i think the drums just sound really nice on the albums.
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Old 08-07-2005, 12:58 PM
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Honestly , I also wasnt all that impressed with the solo, but try doing that in front of 20,000 people. Also if you were in a pop punk band like Blink , and knew that most of your fans were not as musically intelligent as other audiences of other types of genres, wouldnt you just try to impress the crowd by going real fast, and crazy. He is just trying to please the crowd, just going with the flow, you know what I mean. But yes i do agree on the thing about his cymbals being to high up, that must be uncomfortable. Oh well just think about playing in front of 20,000 people, untill you have and pulled a better job then Travis ... then you can talk.
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:17 PM
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i really don't get why folks dislike him so much. something about a tv show? i haven't seen anything. he is quite fast and is more of an entertainer than a technical drummer but there seems to be a lot of bashing here. he's good.

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