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Old 02-28-2006, 01:09 AM
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Your right. Bonham's beats are sampled quite a bit though along with other great drummers, and that is why I dislike rap, it seems so unimprovised, it's to easy to create and it all sounds the same. There is no heart in that type of music IMO.
Ah, the voice of ignorance speaks. That, I'm quite sure, is what a lot of jazz snobs said about Bonham and rock music in general at the time. Go grab yourself a few Roots records - particularly the live ones - and then tell me there's no heart in the music, and that it's easy to create. As for sampling, go grab yourself a copy of "Safe From Harm" by Massive Attack and then tell me it's a worse song than the Billy Cobham groove it was built on top of. Or any of the work of DJ Shadow, who knows more about drums and groove than 95% of drummers.

If drummers are to stay influential we have to get with the times. Hip hop is a huge part of our musical culture at the moment, being totally ignorant of it is pretty hard to excuse if you want to consider yourself a serious musician.

If Bonham was around today I'm sure he'd be a mean hip hop drummer. I'd love to see that, actually, he'd be awesome at it.
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Old 02-28-2006, 01:22 AM
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Ah, the voice of ignorance speaks. That, I'm quite sure, is what a lot of jazz snobs said about Bonham and rock music in general at the time. Go grab yourself a few Roots records - particularly the live ones - and then tell me there's no heart in the music, and that it's easy to create. As for sampling, go grab yourself a copy of "Safe From Harm" by Massive Attack and then tell me it's a worse song than the Billy Cobham groove it was built on top of. Or any of the work of DJ Shadow, who knows more about drums and groove than 95% of drummers.

If drummers are to stay influential we have to get with the times. Hip hop is a huge part of our musical culture at the moment, being totally ignorant of it is pretty hard to excuse if you want to consider yourself a serious musician.

If Bonham was around today I'm sure he'd be a mean hip hop drummer. I'd love to see that, actually, he'd be awesome at it.

I think you miss read my sentence. I was by no means talking about old-school rap. I am talking about the likes of 50 cent, P diddy, etc. Sorry if you miss-read but that is what I meant. And if you notice singers like 50 cent usually don't even go on stage with a drummer let alone record with a drummer on one of their albums.
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Old 02-28-2006, 01:27 AM
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I'm still waiting to see a live video or even hear live audio of "when the levee breaks."
some other songs i still wanna hear live are "hey hey what can i do," "fool in the rain," and "livin lovin maid" Am i just missing them because i dont think videos for those songs even exist
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Old 02-28-2006, 01:31 AM
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I think you miss read my sentence. I was by no means talking about old-school rap. I am talking about the likes of 50 cent, P diddy, etc. Sorry if you miss-read but that is what I meant. And if you notice singers like 50 cent usually don't even go on stage with a drummer let alone record with a drummer on one of their albums.
Yeah, but 50 Cent is like the hip hop equivilent of the Monkees or something. He doesn't belong in any kind of serious musical discussion of styles :)
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Old 02-28-2006, 03:15 AM
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Brain chemistry is important in how a person expresses themselves on an instrument. I had surgery 4 years ago and was put out for hours and was not let out until someone could drive me home. I was told not to drive for 24 hours.

They did not tell me I could not plat the drums though! And I did. I played like never before. I was able to do things I could never imagine and can never recreate. I don't drink or do drugs. Thats a good thing.

But sometimes I wonder if I did, would I be a better musician?

Would Bonham be the drummer he was without the alcohol?
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:23 AM
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Yeah, but 50 Cent is like the hip hop equivilent of the Monkees or something. He doesn't belong in any kind of serious musical discussion of styles :)

Hahahahaha, funny comparison

The only reason I brought it up was because of the sampeling discussion. And new age rappers like 50 cent eminem (shudders) P diddy etc. use beats from the old school drummers and I dislike new age rappers because of that. Again funny comparison lol
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Old 02-28-2006, 08:01 AM
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Would Bonham be the drummer he was without the alcohol?
well most importantly he would have been the drummer he was for a lot longer.

i don't think his alcohol improved nor feuled his skill as adrummer. drinking was more a part of his character, culture and family. bonzo was for me more of a studio genious and a great live showman. in the studio the choices and execution of them showed a man with a deep understanding of drumming who was completely on top of things...live he was the wild man of rock with everything that went with it. when i play live i have a few beers for the devil may care mood that puts me on the edge...but in the studio i don't drink (heck who wants to try and stay drunk or even tipsy for those kinds of hours....eeeugh)

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Old 02-28-2006, 02:32 PM
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drinking was more a part of his character, culture and family.
yea, after reading his new biography, written by his brother, drinking was just in his famiy, they were hard working englishmen that relied on a couple of beers to unwind a night.
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:31 PM
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i enjoyed that book, did you? didn't learn much about how bonzo played drums but did get more of a feel for the man. also learned a bit more about his influences. i think the book settles the debate on whether carmine appice taught him the bass drum triplet...he did not. bonzo developed that independantly. he only became aware of and met vanilla fudge when zep supported them on the first american tour. bonzo had been using the triplet for years before that.

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Old 03-01-2006, 11:03 PM
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i enjoyed that book, did you? didn't learn much about how bonzo played drums but did get more of a feel for the man. also learned a bit more about his influences. i think the book settles the debate on whether carmine appice taught him the bass drum triplet...he did not. bonzo developed that independantly. he only became aware of and met vanilla fudge when zep supported them on the first american tour. bonzo had been using the triplet for years before that.

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Old 03-01-2006, 11:57 PM
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When you guys talk about Bonham's triplets, are you referring to the "broken triplets" he does on like Good Times, Bad Times or something else?
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Old 03-02-2006, 05:06 AM
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yes, thats what were talking about, his insane foot speed

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i did, it deffinetly showed his more personal side. Although, i dont know if his brother didnt know about John Bonhams other drug use, or he shyed away from telling people it, or if bonham just didnt use drugs other than alcohol. Becuase from other articles i've read about Led Zeppelin, i heard about strong acid and LSD use in the entire band.
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Old 03-02-2006, 07:55 AM
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this 'bonzo used drugs' debate is a hard one. in the book mick hardly tries to hide his brother's faults so why would he shy away from mentioning drugs? after all i've read and seen i would only put it AS MY OPINION that bonzo probably tried a bit out here and there because its obvious that jimi and robert were doing loads, but bonzo was more for drinking and rowdiness. look at the fantasy sequences in 'song remains the same'...everyone is away with the fairies and wizards except bonzo...he's drag racing and roaring around the english countryside on his chopper. doesn't get much realer than that. a lot of people i know and knew took drugs and i see very few signs in john of the character quirks that come with long term use (nor the wasted skinny look - lol - bonzo was a big boy). i do see the alcoholic depressions and flares of anger and joviality. but IMO no drugs.

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Old 03-06-2006, 02:24 AM
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Bonham hands down is my favourite drummer i love his power behind the drum set. His ledgendary triplets and who can forget about his right foot! my god he is better and maybe faster then most people that have a double pedal
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:34 AM
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this 'bonzo used drugs' debate is a hard one. in the book mick hardly tries to hide his brother's faults so why would he shy away from mentioning drugs? after all i've read and seen i would only put it AS MY OPINION that bonzo probably tried a bit out here and there because its obvious that jimi and robert were doing loads, but bonzo was more for drinking and rowdiness. look at the fantasy sequences in 'song remains the same'...everyone is away with the fairies and wizards except bonzo...he's drag racing and roaring around the english countryside on his chopper. doesn't get much realer than that. a lot of people i know and knew took drugs and i see very few signs in john of the character quirks that come with long term use (nor the wasted skinny look - lol - bonzo was a big boy). i do see the alcoholic depressions and flares of anger and joviality. but IMO no drugs.

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Old 03-06-2006, 07:52 AM
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well done. i wasn't really going for a semantic debate. everybody understands that when one is talking about drugs they are talking about the illegal ones. take your argument too far and coffee, headache tablets and even sugar become part of the mix. don't slice the cake too finely or you just get crumbs.
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Old 03-06-2006, 09:43 AM
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Just added 2 new Videos:

Rock And Roll (Knebworth 1979) and The Ocean (Madison Square Garden 1973)

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Old 03-06-2006, 11:59 AM
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Awesome Bernhard. Though Robert Plant's jeans in the Ocean clip are obscene!
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Didn't Bonzo have a herion addiction?
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:12 AM
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no, i dont think any of were, except Pagey. There were all just huge drinkers
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:12 AM
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Awesome Bernhard. Though Robert Plant's jeans in the Ocean clip are obscene!
those pants leave nothin to the imagination.....very very gross but other than that, cool video. Nicely done.
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:53 AM
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. take your argument too far and coffee, headache tablets and even sugar become part of the mix. don't slice the cake too finely or you just get crumbs.
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They don't become part of the mix, they are part of the mix...You should see me once I get a cup of coffe in me, with alot of sugar...
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Old 03-07-2006, 03:23 AM
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I have been practicing my Bonham Triplets lately. Although I don't need to tell you this, I can do a triplet with one foot, but not at the rapid fire speed Bonzo did it. When you look back, it's amazing to realize that this is where the seeds of Rock and Metal drumming were "Plant"- ed (oooh! bad pun by me!). I think The Beatles created the starting point for Rock, but I really believe Led Zeppelin is the greatest rock band to ever have existed; They were able to innovate and make the sound The Beatles created into something with more dimension. Each member was great as his own instrument, and when they met together, it basically became like a superpower in music. Anyone else feel this way, or are you going to shoot down my proposal as quickly as usual and insult my already bad pun? Haha....

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I have been practicing my Bonham Triplets lately. Although I don't need to tell you this, I can do a triplet with one foot, but not at the rapid fire speed Bonzo did it. When you look back, it's amazing to realize that this is where the seeds of Rock and Metal drumming were "Plant"- ed (oooh! bad pun by me!). I think The Beatles created the starting point for Rock, but I really believe Led Zeppelin is the greatest rock band to ever have existed; They were able to innovate and make the sound The Beatles created into something with more dimension. Each member was great as his own instrument, and when they met together, it basically became like a superpower in music. Anyone else feel this way, or are you going to shoot down my proposal as quickly as usual and insult my already bad pun? Haha....

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I agree with everything you said except the Beatles part. The Beatles didn't start anything.
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Old 03-07-2006, 04:35 AM
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I agree with everything you said except the Beatles part. The Beatles didn't start anything.
Haha.....I'm not a huge Beatles fan either, and I think Zeppelin were the OG's when it comes to rock. Revolver is one of my favorite albums, but I thought that if I didn't post that little bit about the Beatles, everyone would jump all over me and be like "I hate you....you're so stupid and dumb.............eh!"

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I agree with everything you said except the Beatles part. The Beatles didn't start anything.
You do realize that we wouldn't even know the name Led Zeppelin if it wasn't for The Beatles. We wouldn't know the name John Bonham if it wasn't for Ringo. To say The Beatles didn't start anything is probably one of the most absurd statements ever made in the history of man kind.
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You do realize that we wouldn't even know the name Led Zeppelin if it wasn't for The Beatles. We wouldn't know the name John Bonham if it wasn't for Ringo. To say The Beatles didn't start anything is probably one of the most absurd statements ever made in the history of man kind.
I think you should probably back up your statements. Led Zeppelin probably owes more to Cream than it does the Beatles. Where is the definite blues influence in the Beatles music? Aside from the fact they were influenced by Chuck Berry (not really blues) it isn't really there.
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well we already had this discusion on how much effect the beatles had on music, and Dothecrunge never backed up any of hs comments with good facts or opinions.
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I think you should probably back up your statements. Led Zeppelin probably owes more to Cream than it does the Beatles. Where is the definite blues influence in the Beatles music? Aside from the fact they were influenced by Chuck Berry (not really blues) it isn't really there.
Alright! Lets try this again! Hopefully It won't time out again.

Rock music hardly got any recognition before The Beatles came along. Guitar based rock music was viewed as a fad, something that would blow over. If The Beatles hadn't of made it big, early rock bands like The Rolling Stones, The Yardbirds, The Who, The Kinks, and other wouldn't have never gotten any attention. Remember that all of these bands had been around quite awhile before Led Zeppelin came along.

To specifically address the subject of Cream influencing Led Zeppelin, look at it this way. If The Beatles never made it big, than the Yardbirds never would have made it either. If the Yardbirds never made it, Eric Clapton never would have met John Mayall, who never would have introduced him to Jack Bruce, who never would have started a band with him, thus never having a Cream to influence Led Zeppelin. To really go into detail about the Yardbirds, dig this, If The Beatles never made it big, then neither would the Yardbirds, who never would have eventually hired Jimmy Page, who never would have put the New Yardbirds together after their break up, who never would have changed their name to Led Zeppelin.

The way I originally typed this up was better, but this gets the point across.
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things were started BEFORE the beatles. but let's be honest, the beatles spread the word very well. beatle mania quickly transmogrified into rockmania which then attached itself to anything worthy. so sooner or later it was zepmania. many aspiring musicians aspired to be ringo or john etc... and then discovered they could be even better although never quite as popular in a sense. but zep broke most of the beatles records in their 11 years. zep were the forst band in history to have every album they made featured in the top 200 albums.

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Old 03-07-2006, 11:03 AM
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Bonham hands down is my favourite drummer i love his power behind the drum set. His ledgendary triplets and who can forget about his right foot! my god he is better and maybe faster then most people that have a double pedal
whatever.. that is bullcrap... i've heard john bonham's triplets and they are great but no.. just.... NO. you can't say he is "better or maybe faster" than most double pedal users...... i am so frickin' sick of all you boring little single pedal players who are like "aw well i can make my single pedal sound like a double by mixing it up with the floor tom" etc. or "i use heel-toe technique" or whatever (try using heel-toe on two pedals).. ..just admit it: for heavy music you can't beat the sound that a good double pedal or double bass drum player can punch out.
listen to virgil donati, danny carey or raymond herrera.. or tim alexander from primus

anyway, yes john bonham rules...... but i have never liked moby dick.
non-drummers always ask "have you heard moby dick?? it's amAzing drumming!! can you play it??" etc. but i just find it boring and repetitive to be honest (sorry).
but i love bonham's playing on just about every other song from "2"
especially the first two tracks
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Old 03-07-2006, 11:42 AM
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whatever.. that is bullcrap... i've heard john bonham's triplets and they are great but no.. just.... NO. you can't say he is "better or maybe faster" than most double pedal users...... i am so frickin' sick of all you boring little single pedal players who are like "aw well i can make my single pedal sound like a double by mixing it up with the floor tom" etc. or "i use heel-toe technique" or whatever (try using heel-toe on two pedals).. ..just admit it: for heavy music you can't beat the sound that a good double pedal or double bass drum player can punch out.
listen to virgil donati, danny carey or raymond herrera.. or tim alexander from primus
Tim Alexander probably isn't that great an example. Much of his stuff is achievable without a double pedal, I don't doubt that somebody like Zach Hill of Hella could play most of that fairly accurately without resorting to two feet. Tim does a lot of triplet phrases between the hands and feet with each foot only playing a single stroke on each bass drum pedal, that kind of stuff is easily replicated with a single pedal. Not that he isn't an awesome drummer, of course. I bought a double pedal because of him, and then gave up because I realised that all the stuff that was awesome about him didn't really need one.

This deserves to be on another thread, and indeed there is a thread for it, but here's the deal: If you play music that needs a double pedal then you need one. But the reality is that for most music you quite simply can get the same end result by mixing it up with the toms and heel-toe techniques. It's only really when you get into the land of constant double kick or rudimental work with the feet that you start needing the other foot to come into play.

I do agree that Bonham's foot would probably not be considered particularly fast by modern standards though. He had great power and control over both his dynamics and his beat placement with his right foot, but I don't think that he's a great candidate to stand up to the likes of Zach Hill or Jo Jo Mayer on the single foot speed front.
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Old 03-07-2006, 03:24 PM
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Tim Alexander probably isn't that great an example. Much of his stuff is achievable without a double pedal, I don't doubt that somebody like Zach Hill of Hella could play most of that fairly accurately without resorting to two feet. Tim does a lot of triplet phrases between the hands and feet with each foot only playing a single stroke on each bass drum pedal, that kind of stuff is easily replicated with a single pedal. Not that he isn't an awesome drummer, of course. I bought a double pedal because of him, and then gave up because I realised that all the stuff that was awesome about him didn't really need one.

This deserves to be on another thread, and indeed there is a thread for it, but here's the deal: If you play music that needs a double pedal then you need one. But the reality is that for most music you quite simply can get the same end result by mixing it up with the toms and heel-toe techniques. It's only really when you get into the land of constant double kick or rudimental work with the feet that you start needing the other foot to come into play.

I do agree that Bonham's foot would probably not be considered particularly fast by modern standards though. He had great power and control over both his dynamics and his beat placement with his right foot, but I don't think that he's a great candidate to stand up to the likes of Zach Hill or Jo Jo Mayer on the single foot speed front.
you're right about tim: most of his stuff can be played with a single... but it's his subtle use of the double that appeals to me (jerry was a racecar driver, mr. know it all...).
songs like pudding time and wynona's big brown beaver (...can't get over that name..) would be impossible for me to play using a single (cos i'm crap) but i guess a skilled single-kicker like jo jo mayer could play them...

however, you will never have the same dynamic range playing heel-toe/rapid doubles between tom hits etc. on a single as you will playing straight with a double.
and double bass just doesn't have the same tough sound to it when imitated, even when imitated extremely well

personally i think bonham's foot is incredible in its own right.. if bonham had used two bass drums he would have used them much more wisely than many of today's double bassers... he might have done things like crescendos or swung 8ths in a shuffle or even swung 16ths (swung bass drum notes actually don't sound too bad if you don't put excessive swing on them) and not doubt been extremely creative with it....
i've always thought danny carey (excluding opiate) has a bit of a bonham sound, especially on undertow and aenima.. he's got similar indian percussive influences too
actually track 11 on lateralus is a bit bonham-ish.. ..sort of

oh.. long post, sorry :P
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john's speed was impressive for his day but i never cared for how fast he did this or that. it is his groove, his taste that keeps me listening to zep on nearly a daily basis for 14 years now. when i want to emulate bonham - when i think of why he is my hero - i don't practice triplets with my foot...what i do do is try to capture the ferocious joy that comes across in his drumming. i think, how would bonzo approach this intro? how does he think of snare placement? how would he unstaighten this groove tastefully?etc....

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things were started BEFORE the beatles. but let's be honest, the beatles spread the word very well. beatle mania quickly transmogrified into rockmania which then attached itself to anything worthy. so sooner or later it was zepmania. many aspiring musicians aspired to be ringo or john etc... and then discovered they could be even better although never quite as popular in a sense. but zep broke most of the beatles records in their 11 years. zep were the forst band in history to have every album they made featured in the top 200 albums.

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Yea I agree that things were started before The Beatles came along, The Beatles just proved that it was here to stay, I went into more detail about Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Elvis, Fats Domino, and guys like that in my origional post, but after it timed out and I lost all of it I really didn't want to type it all out again.
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d'oh! that's happened to me a couple of times too. type long messages on word pad, copy and paste to be sure.

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i havent seen anyone come close to bonhams right foot, except maybe jo jo mayer, but even then, there not as powerful as bonhams.
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The Beatles were great, blah blah blah. The fact remains, the Beatles did not influence Led Zeppelin musically. Thier first two albums should prove that. Blues, anyone? I'd list thier infuences, but it would take a while, and it doesn't include John, Paul, George, or Ringo.

But then everyone's gonna say, but without Ringo!......................but nothing, Bonzo was not influenced by Ringo. And the same goes for every member of Led Zeppelin.
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The Beatles were great, blah blah blah. The fact remains, the Beatles did not influence Led Zeppelin musically. Thier first two albums should prove that. Blues, anyone? I'd list thier infuences, but it would take a while, and it doesn't include John, Paul, George, or Ringo.

But then everyone's gonna say, but without Ringo!......................but nothing, Bonzo was not influenced by Ringo. And the same goes for every member of Led Zeppelin.
I wouldn't say that The Beatles didn't influence Led Zeppelin, The intro to Led Zeppelin's "In The Light" has a striking resemblance to The Beatles "Within you Without you". Since you don't seem to even listen to The Beatles how could you say that they don't influence Zeppelin, when you yourself are not even familiar with The Beatles music. I don't mean that in a rude way. As some one who is familiar with both bands I notice a few similarities here and there. I don't think that they are a huge influence by any means, but what I was trying to say earlier isn't how The Beatles influenced Led Zeppelin. but how The Beatles paved the road for bands like Zeppelin.

I realize Bonzo wasn't heavily influenced by Ringo, but Ringo brought rock drummers into the lime light, and since Bonham was a rock drummer, that is something he can attribute to Ringo. To say The Beatles didn't have a influence on the other members of Zeppelin isn't exactly true either. It may not be really obvious, but like I said earlier, every once in a while there is something that rings back to a Beatles song. I'll try to dig up some other similarities, but in the mean time check out the song I mention earlier.

I should make it clear that I love both The Beatles and Led Zeppelin equally, I am not trying to take The Beatles sides on this or anything, I just think it's good to know your roots.
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Default Favorite Bonzo Track EVER?

I think by far in my opinion in my opinion "In My Time of Dying" is my fav song.

Ever time I try to seat down and play this sone along with the band on a set of head phones, I just end up stopping and grooving with Bonzo, with the classic head shake and lip curl. I can't even play drums to it cause it's too fun to listen to.HAHAHA
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