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Old 04-26-2006, 01:27 PM
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I wish Bonham was still alive because if he was i think he would be the best drummer there is
He is NEEDED more now, than ever.:(

Indeed a recording and gigging Zeppelin would be the antedote for a number of the industry's current problems.
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That's the sound of a drumstick on vinyl...or to be precise the sound of drumsticks on the top of his drumthrone seat.
a possible answer but you sound very sure. how do you know. is there a write-up on this song?

ps: in many ways i agree with your last post
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Old 04-26-2006, 03:10 PM
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a possible answer but you sound very sure. how do you know. is there a write-up on this song?

ps: in many ways i agree with your last post
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Jay, yes, I came across it in my research. It is in print, I just have so many bloody books here, it would take me a while to get the page and quote.
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Old 04-26-2006, 04:10 PM
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Live from the Bonham Soap at drummerworld:

guy a: ....That's the sound of a drumstick on vinyl...or to be precise the sound of drumsticks on the top of his drumthrone seat.
guy b: ......a possible answer but you sound very sure. how do you know. is there a write-up on this song?
guy a: ...a gigging Zeppelin would be the antedote for a number of the industry's current problem


Too much is too much!!

Hey guys...I start to make me some sorrows about your health!!!

and never bash Ringo

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Old 04-26-2006, 04:14 PM
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You think that's bad Bernhard? You should see us after a few pints.......:)
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Old 04-26-2006, 07:25 PM
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My 15x12 rack tom with a 26x14 kick.

Man...that kick drum....wow. Bonham would be proud.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:15 PM
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If I got this picture thang right, these are the usual suspects.
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Old 04-27-2006, 12:29 AM
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That's the sound of a drumstick on vinyl...or to be precise the sound of drumsticks on the top of his drumthrone seat.

i actually think its a plastic garbage can top....i read it here

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=313

but it could be eaither...im not sure
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Old 04-27-2006, 12:35 AM
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I'm sorry, but, you're wrong. If the tom being referred to is the one with the swivo holder in the pic, it is from the kit that is at the bottom of page 36, in A Thunder of Drums. It's 'mate'
the 10x14 is pictured there with the two bass drums, NOTE the Swivo holders on the bass drums?
The above pic from ANOTHER maple kit has the 12x14 tom. It is placed on a snare drum stand. Also, with this pic, please note the double ludwig spurs on the bass drum. These were put on as the drum's depth is 15", the same as Appice's.
Here is a picture of the new Ludwig Stainless Steel Bonham re-issue kit. This was taken at the MusikMesse show in Frankfurt in March. The shells for this kit are produced by Dunnett Classic.

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Old 04-27-2006, 02:56 AM
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I don't allow you here to in any way go against my friend Ronn.
Ronn is a great guy, i frequent the drumsmith forum and hes given me numerous tips on making drums.
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:36 AM
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Here is a picture of the new Ludwig Stainless Steel Bonham re-issue kit. This was taken at the MusikMesse show in Frankfurt in March. The shells for this kit are produced by Dunnett Classic.

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Hmmmm...They've reissued the Amber Vistalite, now the Stainless Steel kit, could an official Green Sparkle be coming in the not too distant future? One can only hope.

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Old 04-27-2006, 05:24 AM
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To be certain - there are only 100 of these kits being offered. Very limited edition.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:08 AM
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she's a beauty ronn. must be a hell to clean tho. i would have fingerprints on her within an hour. must be the loudest drumset on earth.

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Old 04-27-2006, 11:25 AM
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Hmmmm...They've reissued the Amber Vistalite, now the Stainless Steel kit, could an official Green Sparkle be coming in the not too distant future? One can only hope.

---LG
I do believe they have done a re-issue of the Green sparkle kit. But I think the released version is 6 ply maple. Roll on 3 ply maple (christ, can you just imagine how thin that is?!)
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:26 PM
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yeah, they had that green sparkle kit and some meinl mb20 (i think...) cymbals up for grabs in a RHYTHM competition. it was worth a whopping 5000!! i bet they got more entrants for that than any other kit, and it's actually the pic of that RHYTHM compo that ludwig use to advertise the bonham kit.
would have been a great prize. imagine that sound!
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Old 04-27-2006, 11:38 PM
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What's that choked crash cymbal kind of like sound Bonzo uses on 'The Crunge'?
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Old 04-28-2006, 12:25 AM
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What's that choked crash cymbal kind of like sound Bonzo uses on 'The Crunge'?


its his hi hat being swished
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Old 04-28-2006, 12:33 AM
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but going back to the subject about Black Dog.....i noticed on the HTWWS cd, when they played it, there was an equal break after plants singing in each section unlike the record song. Like nutha said on the record recording there were short breaks, medium breaks and long breaks. but in the live version they were all the same to make it easier playing for bonham mostly i guess.
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Old 04-28-2006, 02:32 AM
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John Bonham is an amazing drummer. There is nothing I can say that hasnt been said in this thread. I am just recently getting into Zep, but I am slowly molding my style after Bonham.
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Old 04-28-2006, 07:51 AM
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I am so glad Ludwig brought back the inlay finish on the bass drum hoops, it's such a nice touch very classy. The silver sparkle looks great with the Stainless Steel. My green sparkle kit in the Bonham sizes looks great with the green sparkle inlay on the hoops!
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Old 04-28-2006, 07:52 AM
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^ Would the champagne sparkle kit just have regular champagne as the inlay finish? or sparkle as well.
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Old 04-28-2006, 04:57 PM
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I would think that it would have champagne sparkle inlay if it is a sparkle finish. They match it up as best they can for instance the amber vistalite kit has gold sparkle inlay on it's hoops. It looks great with the finish. As far as the champagne is concerned I don't see why they couldn't put the champagne finish as the inlay.
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Old 04-29-2006, 06:08 AM
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a year ago i saw a concert with led zeppelin from copenhagen just before their big breakthrough.. the things he does on those drums is truly amazing..
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Old 04-29-2006, 06:37 AM
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a year ago i saw a concert with led zeppelin from copenhagen just before their big breakthrough.. the things he does on those drums is truly amazing..


if u have the zep dvd...check out the clips on the first disc of the denmarks radio....alot of the drumming in communication breakdown, babe im gonna leave you, dazed and confused, and how many more times is so sick
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Old 04-29-2006, 07:43 AM
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Bonham is god, so it's understandable to have a religion.
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Old 04-29-2006, 07:25 PM
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Bonham is god, so it's understandable to have a religion.
no no no

wrong way around...

God made Bonham possible, so it's understandable to have a religion.

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Old 04-30-2006, 08:17 AM
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yes bonham is god...i am a huge fan of him....but i was just thinking that like....

u no everyone talks about how amazing his right foot was.....but if u think about it....it was mostly jaw dropping a long time ago before all these other techniques where devolped....like i was watching jojo mayers video, and my personal thoughts is his foot is truly amazing ....and is = to bonhams.......

but any how....

i am a huge led zepplin fan and i worship bonham.....so dont get me rong....bonham is still a insain and wonderful drummer
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Old 04-30-2006, 01:46 PM
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it's nice that we can manage to have an 18 page topic actually discussing bonham rather than arguing over wether he was good or not. and he really deserves it too.
i think bonham helped encourage a lot of visual aspects to rock drumming too. he really swung his hair about during "moby dick" and "we're gonna groove".
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Old 04-30-2006, 03:48 PM
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he really swung his hair about during "moby dick" and "we're gonna groove".
Everyone swings their hair to we're gonna groove, purely beacause its so damn.......... groovy
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Does anyone have any ideas on the percussion and who played what on "Boogie With Stu" from Physical Graffiti? To me it sounds like hand claps, bass drum, tambourine, sticks on sticks (the break at the end of the tune gives a good, clear glimpse).

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Hi. Does anyone know the size of john bonham (of led zeppelin) 's drumsticks? i heard that they were 2A 's but those are small. afterall, they were once called trees weren't they?

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Old 04-30-2006, 08:21 PM
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i think you got it right. i'm definitely hearing hand claps and sticks. but there is still something else there...

these guys were quite creative and also looking for unique sounds...and there was not ver good synthesized stuff at that time...could be something like a large plate of steel or a biscuit tin or even a large sheet of card hit with a stick and put through some effects...who knows.

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his sticks were large in his day but by the looks of these pictures they are average by today's standards. probably size 5




although here we see him using much smaller sticks...


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found this quote but i'm unsure of the validity of the source...still checking:

'John used large sticks(2Bs and 3Ss) when he was younger'
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Perhaps ask Marcel Vogelmann from www.trommelladen.de. It's THE source for Ludwig drums in Germany, and has many Kits in Bonham-sizes. He sells a copy of the Bonham Stick. It's an new website, on the old you could see the forepart.

I think it's close to a 3S.
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Ludwig 2A size drumsticks in the late 70's seems to be the concensus across a broad number of websites.

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Ludwig 2A size drumsticks in the late 70's seems to be the concensus across a broad number of websites.
Now when you're saying it... I found it in the google-cache (the old page of the shop), actually it was a Ludwig 2A.
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Does anyone have any ideas on the percussion and who played what on "Boogie With Stu" from Physical Graffiti? To me it sounds like hand claps, bass drum, tambourine, sticks on sticks (the break at the end of the tune gives a good, clear glimpse).

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I was always under the impression that he was slapping the timpani with his fingers and it was run through some kind of sound effect.
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Not sure if this has been posted before, but it's worth a try.

Here's a funny interview with Bonham;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PAuvNemHL...=john%20bonham

And another old one;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ery04XxqJ...=john%20bonham
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Not sure if this has been posted before, but it's worth a try.

Here's a funny interview with Bonham;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PAuvNemHL...=john%20bonham

And another old one;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ery04XxqJ...=john%20bonham

ive seen the first one but not the second one...its pretty interesting
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