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Old 11-13-2008, 01:06 PM
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hey i like playing along to mars volta tracks
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well my sticks sure can, though they dont break much they chip away nice and good and i think that along with plenty of rimshots is a perfect recipe for broken sticks
im usin dw and vater 5A's
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:07 AM
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Yeah it really depends on the grain because ive had vf 5a's that break in one practice then ive had them last me 3 or 4 months. it seems its kinda luck of the draw.
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Old 12-21-2008, 07:44 PM
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In my experience what will break a stick;

Hats not settling properly, causing a lip which wears the stick down over (a long!) time, coupled with hard hitting will eventually break the stick

Playing like an idiot and hitting the rims, rather than the drum head, hard

Using cheap nasty light sticks, and playing like an idiot

Id consider my self a hard hitter yet have only broken 4 or 5 sticks in my three years of playing seriously. I know other local drummers who break sticks every week! In my experience its all down to technique, and lack off. Sorry if this offends but it winds me up when I see drummers battering the hell out of their drums - they achieve no greater volume and, in my opinion, only demonstrate a lack of understanding of how a drum works.


I find most sticks I've broken are from flaws in the stick themselves. A small knot or bad length of wood grain can cause a stick to split. The wood type itself can be the biggest cause. I try to play oak sticks for obvious reasons that it's a harder wood.
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:32 PM
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maybe its because i love to buy new sticks

but ive been playing for 10 years and have never completely broken a stick while playing. you guys hit too hard or something....
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:37 PM
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I also love buying new sticks just because there so clean and well new, but mine do break like once I've had a stick snap straight through the middle during practice but that was after about 2 hours of intense practice and hard hitting. But using the rim does ware down your sticks a hell of a lot.
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Old 01-01-2009, 09:03 PM
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Sounds like you've got some good advice here, let's review...

1. you play A LOT for long periods of time...breakage increases
2. you play fairly hard, with lots of rim shots
3. you're using a large stick...

When I was younger, I broke a lot of sticks, so I'd bought those "bucket" sticks for dirt cheap my shop had on sale, usually no-namers.

However, once my playing got better, and I began to mature as a musician, I found I stopped hitting so hard, and started pulling the sound out of the drum, which sounded better, fit in better with the band, and saved on sticks.

I also noticed I broke most of my stick because I was hitting the shoulder hard on the bell of my ride, trying to cut through the wall of sound my guitarist was putting up. One well placed hit was all it took to snap the shaft. Watch out for that...

The other thing you might try, is using little or no muffle on your drums. This will make them much louder, but also increase the ringing, which may cause you not to hit the rim so hard, if a tap gets your sound...

Good luck
ye that ride thing happened to me with my pro-mark 5b the tip just split in two!i now use VF 3a best sticks i have used:)
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Old 01-12-2009, 08:31 PM
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:36 PM
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I have something, I can not figure out how the head are chipping.


Now, I was playing with some Zlijdian 5A anti vibes, and it seems after a few times playing. the heads chip. I have also noticed any time I use pro mark 5A's on a drum set (I like their drum line sticks though) the heads chip and the necks splinter really fast, within minutes.

I think it might be how I hit the cymbals, I hit the cymbals right under the head mostly. On a high hat I usually use the head.

I don't like this at all.
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:37 PM
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I can't say I have ever broken any sticks myself.

Although the guitarist from my band had a go on the drums and got a little bit excited and managed to snap one of mine the other week haha.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:02 PM
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this is what happened to my VF 3a

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Old 01-25-2009, 02:06 AM
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if you break the tips it meand nothing.....just get new ones!...its bound to happen sometime with wood tips...
but if they break in the middle!....re-evaluate your noise level!....your supposed to make the drums sing, not take their breath away!
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:19 PM
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Sometimes noise is a necessity. This is what my sticks tend to look like after a few weeks if they don't break sooner:
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:42 PM
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Sometimes noise is a necessity. This is what my sticks tend to look like after a few weeks if they don't break sooner:
haha! how does that even happen???!!!!
do you hit the kit with the body of the stick or what!
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Old 01-26-2009, 06:04 PM
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Lots of rimshots! That's what mine look like but definitely not after 2 weeks!!
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:01 PM
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It takes more than two weeks for me too. I'd say the one in the picture was at least a month old, probably more. But it's worth mentioning that I play 2-3 hours a week on an actual kit on average.

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Old 03-22-2009, 04:39 AM
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I way breaking sticks left and right back in the day. I tweaked my control and repositioned my cymbals... much less breakage now!!!
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Old 03-24-2009, 11:39 PM
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I Don't Know If Anyone Has Suggested This Already Or Not (Im To Lazy To Look Through All The Pages).

I bought some Hockey Stick Tape (fibre glass tape) and i wrapped it thinly around where i was breaking my sticks by rim shoting them and now they dont break! + the sound hardly changes!

def recommend it!
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:33 AM
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good idea! my opinion, zildjian makes great cymbals, bad sticks. i bought a pair of 5b's and splintered them right down the middle on second practice.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:12 AM
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I must say Stagg sticks and some other low budget sticks, just don't work, also I have bad experience with zildjian sticks, and carbo sticks have a tendency to have one great stick, and the other one in pair is faulty... so if you buy carbo sticks, buy two pairs and then you get one great pair:)
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Old 03-30-2009, 09:08 PM
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Hey Drummerworld,

I was checking out Steve Smith's web site and I came across some clips of him talking about the gear he uses. One of the clips is him talking about his signature sticks.

At about the 1:50 mark he talks about how improving his technique allowed him to move from the large 2b's he used with Journey down to 5a's (his sig stick is essentially a 5a with a elogated tip) and still maintain a big sound when needed and dramatically reduced the frequency of breaking sticks.

http://vitalinformation.com/store/vi.htm

Hopefully this adds some insight for an experienced pro.

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Old 04-10-2009, 12:20 AM
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I don't care what anybody says, there's no such thing as playing too hard, and promark 2b oaks are the balls. the harder you play, the better it sounds, as long as you know what you're doing and it's appropriate for the song. I don't break many sticks these days, but they're usually on their death bed at the end of 3 hours of total play.
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Old 04-11-2009, 06:26 PM
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I've only been playing a year or so and I'm still at the point of breaking sticks all the time. Husband complains everytime I break a pair... so I think I might look into that hockey tape theory of yours. But wait, how often does one break sticks..I find myself needing a new pair at least once a month..too me..that's not that bad, but like I said, Husband thinks thats ridiculous..LoL. I've lowered my hi hats even, and repositioned cymbals..but the truth of the matter is.. they're just wood..they're GOING TO BREAK..LoL...


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I Don't Know If Anyone Has Suggested This Already Or Not (Im To Lazy To Look Through All The Pages).

I bought some Hockey Stick Tape (fibre glass tape) and i wrapped it thinly around where i was breaking my sticks by rim shoting them and now they dont break! + the sound hardly changes!

def recommend it!
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Old 04-11-2009, 06:33 PM
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I've seen sticks like this... she tends to pop the rim a lot on snare hits... it gives a different sound....some extra flare but its HECK on her sticks.


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I Don't Know If Anyone Has Suggested This Already Or Not (Im To Lazy To Look Through All The Pages).

I bought some Hockey Stick Tape (fibre glass tape) and i wrapped it thinly around where i was breaking my sticks by rim shoting them and now they dont break! + the sound hardly changes!

def recommend it!
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Sometimes noise is a necessity. This is what my sticks tend to look like after a few weeks if they don't break sooner:
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:51 PM
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Sticks will always break! there wood and your hitting things with them!

I rim shot hard and used to break sticks within afew hours of heavy gigging.

now my sticks dont really break! now after afew weeks they start to feel abit flimsy nearer the tip so i just replace them!

Hockey tape will only cost afew £'s but will prolong the life of your sticks by a hell of alot!
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Old 05-24-2009, 02:53 AM
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Im new to drumming. A lot of you guys speak of rim shots. How do you do them properly to not f up your sticks so much? I havent really used them all that much. I also just bought some Pro-Mark 747b's, jap oak.
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Old 05-24-2009, 03:09 AM
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I use Thomas Lang Signature sticks and I break about one stick every one or two practices. My record so far is three sticks in less than 10 minutes.

In response to your problem though it may be because of the way your cymabls are posistioned or if your using too much rim when you hit the drums.

Breaking sticks is normal. But expensive...
I broke two pairs of sticks last week at youth group but I had been playing heavy metal which is mostly well... hitting the rim of the crash repeatedly. I don't know bout you but my goal is trying not to break sticks, but every time I break sticks, which isn't often, the sticks are always EXPENSIVE zildjian!!!!! Plus the rim thing, SO TRUE!! I was giving lessons to a girl in my nieghboorhood and she kept hitting the rim of the snare which I also think contributed to the crack in the tip.
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Im new to drumming. A lot of you guys speak of rim shots. How do you do them properly to not f up your sticks so much? I havent really used them all that much. I also just bought some Pro-Mark 747b's, jap oak.
There is no way. Rimshots will always cause them to break.
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Old 06-05-2009, 01:22 AM
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lol my friend was playing one time, and he felt something hit him in the chest, and then he realized half of his stick just completely snapped, ricocheted off the ride, and tried to stab him basically.

made for an interesting "break" in the beat...




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Old 06-05-2009, 01:23 AM
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lol my friend was playing one time, and he felt something hit him in the chest, and then he realized half of his stick just completely snapped, ricocheted off the ride, and tried to stab him basically.

made for an interesting break in the beat...




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That happened to me before. I was bleeding.....
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Old 06-05-2009, 01:24 AM
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That happened to me before. I was bleeding.....
LOL its a contact sport

i've hit myself in the face with the sticks one time. I was doing a roll, and i put my face too close to the snare...it was all a reddish blur after that...
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Old 06-05-2009, 01:28 AM
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lol my friend was playing one time, and he felt something hit him in the chest, and then he realized half of his stick just completely snapped, ricocheted off the ride, and tried to stab him basically.

made for an interesting "break" in the beat...




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Old 07-09-2009, 07:31 PM
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I've been playing for two years, I've never actually broken a stick, and I play quite hard. I have pro mark 5 B "Sumo Sticks". While they aren't broken, they have definitely succumbed to their fair share of war wounds...
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Old 07-17-2009, 04:00 AM
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Im new to drumming. A lot of you guys speak of rim shots. How do you do them properly to not f up your sticks so much? I havent really used them all that much. I also just bought some Pro-Mark 747b's, jap oak.
Don't bury the stick into the drum. Stop your arm movement before the stick hits the drum and let the momentum bring your hand and the stick the rest of the way, and then rebound freely. It's basicaly like a flick of the wrist, like cracking a whip.
Perform every stroke like this, even the soft ones, and your sticks, heads, cymbal and hands will thank you, and your drums will sound better too.
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:16 AM
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i love rimshots.
this is after one gig...its a vater 5a.
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Old 09-29-2009, 06:49 PM
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My advice:

Buy sticks that break, so you don't break heads and cymbals as regularly!

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good idea! my opinion, zildjian makes great cymbals, bad sticks. i bought a pair of 5b's and splintered them right down the middle on second practice.
from what i've experienced, thinner sticks like 5a's and even more so 7a's break far less for me than the 5b's do; no matter what make zildjian, vic firth etc.
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:17 PM
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Everybody it's not the brand,type,wood,etc. count the grains from the but end of the stick the more grains and straighter grains the stronger the stick it's basic physics.

Yon can get a Regal-Tip 7a with 7+ straight grains and it will last longer than a Pro-Mark 2S with 2 crooked grains.......really.

The finer & straighter the grain is what you look for.

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Old 10-01-2009, 03:41 AM
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I play with 2B's and break at least two per night and that is a club gig. If I don't have a mass of woodchips under my kit when I am packing up, I wasn't wailing enough! I feel you should be exhausted after a night of playing!
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:04 PM
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The sticks at my local music go round are awesome. They are 4 bucks v.s. the $8 vic firths. And it turns out that Vic Firth MAKES the generics. It says so on the little sleeve and recently, right on the stick. its awesome.
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Old 11-19-2009, 04:26 AM
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I hardly ever break sticks I play the quads in the marching band and my friend breaks sticks all the time it frustrates me so much
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