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Old 07-26-2006, 12:38 AM
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Default THUNDERHEAD is finally here!!!!

Hey all here is my new product finally... its called "THUNDERHEAD"tm and production is on the way... We finally got our patent and legal stuff taking care of so here are some pics.. I will get some more up very soon... I have to run now but i will answer any questions you all might have...

we will have a website or myspace up soon so I will let you know... the company name is TorZel tm. I swear on my life this thing sounds freakin amazing...
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:42 AM
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I'm sure I saw one of those on a GMS drum kit picture on the Internet a few months ago. Early testing perhaps?
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:15 AM
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I'm sure I saw one of those on a GMS drum kit picture on the Internet a few months ago. Early testing perhaps?
sure.. I saw that too... however it is nothing related to what we are doing...
the guy you saw was Hena Haburger from switzerland.... I assure you this is different...
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:23 AM
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http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4...globale0ep.jpg

this is such a bad idea and yet....people keep doing it.
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Old 07-26-2006, 07:33 AM
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Is that just like a bigger version of the Yamaha Sub-Kick?
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Old 07-26-2006, 08:32 AM
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Dude thats really cool, can you send me a PM when your website is up?
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Old 07-26-2006, 10:23 AM
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sure.. I saw that too... however it is nothing related to what we are doing...
the guy you saw was Hena Haburger from switzerland.... I assure you this is different...
Well even if it is the same, you own the patent so you have nothing to worry about. If it works, which I'm sure it does, I like the concept a lot.
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Old 07-26-2006, 10:32 AM
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Um, this may sound like a stupid question, but.... What is it?
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Old 07-26-2006, 10:46 AM
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Yeah I'm not too sure either, can you give us a little explanaition?
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:06 PM
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At first i thought this was a gag. But i guess its serious. I would love to try one out. Is it geared towards recording purposes only? Or all purpose?
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:14 PM
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How exactly does it affect the sound??
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:25 PM
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Um, this may sound like a stupid question, but.... What is it?
The THUNDERHEAD.is a speaker cone (the magnet is off) attached to the front of a bass drum via The Addaptor Ring. It is not powered... just tap the back of any speaker and thats the low end sound we are getting... some of the benifits of using this is...
1. You can use this for all purposes
2. you get a more consistant sound and low end
3. It sounds amazing and it looks cool as hell

Like I said production is on the way and the Thunderhead will be available soon...
we are making Four models.. a 18" speaker that will fit a 20" and 22" bass drum and a 15" speaker that will fit a 20" and 22" bass drum...

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The THUNDERHEAD.is a speaker cone (the magnet is off) attached to the front of a bass drum via The Addaptor Ring. It is not powered... just tap the back of any speaker and thats the low end sound we are getting... some of the benifits of using this is...
1. You can use this for all purposes
2. you get a more consistant sound and low end
3. It sounds amazing and it looks cool as hell

Like I said production is on the way and the Thunderhead will be available soon...
we are making Four models.. a 18" speaker that will fit a 20" and 22" bass drum and a 15" speaker that will fit a 20" and 22" bass drum...

Please feel free to ask many questions...
Seems like a good idea. Do you have any sound clips of the THUNDERHEAD?
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Yeah just image two of those on a double bass kit......METAL!!!
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:55 AM
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The THUNDERHEAD.is a speaker cone (the magnet is off) attached to the front of a bass drum via The Addaptor Ring. It is not powered... just tap the back of any speaker and thats the low end sound we are getting... some of the benifits of using this is...
1. You can use this for all purposes
2. you get a more consistant sound and low end
3. It sounds amazing and it looks cool as hell

Like I said production is on the way and the Thunderhead will be available soon...
we are making Four models.. a 18" speaker that will fit a 20" and 22" bass drum and a 15" speaker that will fit a 20" and 22" bass drum...

Please feel free to ask many questions...
Will you just be using paper cones? or are you looking in to other cone materials like aluminium and carbon fibre or moulded plastic, which would be nearly as light but a lot more durable and kick out more bottom end, and also a more durable butyl rubber surround, see pic for example...

I'd sure like to try one of those, love the concept, but can't control the rest of the band or equipment and accidents happen, feet wander etc. could be easily damaged.

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Old 08-01-2006, 03:36 PM
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Thanks for your comments... To answer Jay B's question about cone material... We are working with the Eminence Speaker company and trying to develope the best cone for the job... we are finding that a paper/kevlar cone is sounding the best....but we are still reseching other stuff..
We are also trying to come up with a lighter basket ( the basket is the frame of the speaker for those who didnt know) all in all, there are a ton of possibilities with this so keep your ideas coming. I am listening...

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we are making Four models.. a 18" speaker that will fit a 20" and 22" bass drum and a 15" speaker that will fit a 20" and 22" bass drum...

Any chance of making one to fit a 24" bass drum?
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Cool, the kevlar mix sounds like it should do the job.

Didn't know you were keeping the basket, it looked like it was just the cone atached at the edge, but that wouldn't generate an even cone movement, so I guess I should think a bit more before opening my mouth haha

As it won't be supporting a magnet, it will only need a dummy voice coil to keep a nice straight even motion, so a very light weight basket could be manufactured...

I can see these things taking off... Would be nice if in the future there was a specific cone for each size bass drum, with a 22" cone for the big boys out there.

I was going to get a custom bass drum graphic to make mine look like a speaker, but I'd rather have the real thing now haha.

Keep us informed of the progress you make with this, nice one.
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Old 08-01-2006, 05:31 PM
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Cool, the kevlar mix sounds like it should do the job.

Didn't know you were keeping the basket, it looked like it was just the cone atached at the edge, but that wouldn't generate an even cone movement, so I guess I should think a bit more before opening my mouth haha

As it won't be supporting a magnet, it will only need a dummy voice coil to keep a nice straight even motion, so a very light weight basket could be manufactured...

I can see these things taking off... Would be nice if in the future there was a specific cone for each size bass drum, with a 22" cone for the big boys out there.

I was going to get a custom bass drum graphic to make mine look like a speaker, but I'd rather have the real thing now haha.

Keep us informed of the progress you make with this, nice one.
thanks dude.. we would love to develop bigger cones for the big boys... we will eventually have Thunderheads available for all size drums including toms...except for ZDRUMS...lol
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Old 08-01-2006, 05:34 PM
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Did I miss the part where the cost was shown, retail or otherwise.
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Did I miss the part where the cost was shown, retail or otherwise.
The cost of this item is undetermined.. however we are thinking they will cost some where between $100.00 - $200.00 dollars...
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The cost of this item is undetermined.. however we are thinking they will cost some where between $100.00 - $200.00 dollars...
Thats a thread killer..................
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Best keep them for somebody else then....$$$$$ Good Grief!!!!
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the more a product is mass produced, the more the price drops, most new products are more pricey to start with, just look at games consoles, bloody expensive when they first hit the market, but after a year or two they drop quite dramatically in price, that might not be a good analogy, but I think it gets my point across haha
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That looks so awesome but i'm still in love with the Yammie subckick. Great idea thoguh.

SOUND CLIP PLEASE.

I have a feeling some one is about to get very rich.....
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[quote=Jay.B.]the more a product is mass produced, the more the price drops, most new products are more pricey to start with, just look at games consoles, bloody expensive when they first hit the market, but after a year or two they drop quite dramatically in price, that might not be a good analogy, but I think it gets my point across haha[/quot

True That!!!

The prices I quoted are just a rough guess.... If you think about it, a regular front head can cost you $50.00 - $70.00 and if you get a custom head ( painted or band logo ) thats around $150.00 so to spend $125.00 on a super awesome Thunderhead that you dont have to tune, you dont have to worry about mic placement nor does the sound guy have to mess around adding effects or compression or what ever because the Thunderhead does it all for you..
Plus the Thunderhead looks great. It works for the Hip Hop guys to the Heaviest of metal drummers..
Also, the Adaptor ring that allows you to attach your own speaker to your kick drum will be sold seperatly for a less expensive price.

Finally, the reason I estimate the price to be high is the speaker we are making is a custom speaker.. It is being designed to be on the front head of a bass drum..
and when you add the cost of this and that it adds up quick...

I have been waiting along time to share these pics of the THUNDERHEAD.. heres one more..
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That looks so awesome but i'm still in love with the Yammie subckick. Great idea thoguh.

SOUND CLIP PLEASE.

I have a feeling some one is about to get very rich.....
If you want a sound clip watch the video link on profile or click on my myspace link and listen to the song on there...

We will be going to a studio soon to record some stuff we will also be getting subharmonic eq read out.. that will allow us to see what frequencies are being boosted buy the almighty Thunderhead...
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So the Thunderhead works like a passive radiator?

Are there any plans to make it powered?
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So the Thunderhead works like a passive radiator?

Are there any plans to make it powered?
apsolutly..like a passive radiator..however, it also acts as a drumhead... we have talked about making it powered, but one thing at a time...
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Old 08-03-2006, 05:50 AM
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It looks very cool. I bet it sounds great.
In the last picture is that the Pearl kit you play on your videos? It sounded great.
What model kit and heads did you have.
Good luck w/your product!
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I just read the other thread about your drums which answered my questions. Nice kit!
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very cool idea man ! that is awesome.. i can really see this catching on and becoming really really popular...id def think about geting one once they are all ready for production...
you mentioned something about addint an adaptor plate that will alow you to connect a speaker to your head? how would that work? where would the speaker go ? this whole concept is really new to me.. thanks

NICE work and GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!!
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very cool idea man ! that is awesome.. i can really see this catching on and becoming really really popular...id def think about geting one once they are all ready for production...
you mentioned something about addint an adaptor plate that will alow you to connect a speaker to your head? how would that work? where would the speaker go ? this whole concept is really new to me.. thanks

NICE work and GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!!
sweet I hope they take off... The addaptor ring would allow you to attache a speaker to the drum not the head... the head is the speaker...THUNDERHEAD!!!!!!!!!!
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hmm... you mean just like a regular mic? or some new custom thing designed for your heads? pics would help :p
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Can't you see all the pics in this thread? That's what he's talking about.
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So if I understand correcty (what are the chances : ^ P ) you can no longer tune the front head?? Kinda a PTS deal...... what about smaller ones for reso tom heads???
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The THUNDERHEAD.is a speaker cone (the magnet is off) attached to the front of a bass drum via The Addaptor Ring. It is not powered... just tap the back of any speaker and thats the low end sound we are getting... some of the benifits of using this is...
1. You can use this for all purposes
2. you get a more consistant sound and low end
3. It sounds amazing and it looks cool as hell

Like I said production is on the way and the Thunderhead will be available soon...
we are making Four models.. a 18" speaker that will fit a 20" and 22" bass drum and a 15" speaker that will fit a 20" and 22" bass drum...

Please feel free to ask many questions...
Well, you really didn't answer that fellow's question: What exactly does it do??

1. Of course, you could use this for all purposes, but why? Just for looks? (I have to admit it does look hell of cool and I'd put one one just for the appearance).

2. As for more consistent sound at the low end, my beater hits the bass drum head in the exact same spot every time and sounds exactly the same each time I hit it with the same force. How can you get more consistent than that?

3. I'm sure it "sounds amazing," but so do a lot of bass drums without this speaker cone.

You don't need to be so coy - please tell me, WHAT does this DO to your sound?!?!?!?
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So if I understand correcty (what are the chances : ^ P ) you can no longer tune the front head?? Kinda a PTS deal...... what about smaller ones for reso tom heads???

That would be AWESOME!!!
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Well, you really didn't answer that fellow's question: What exactly does it do??

1. Of course, you could use this for all purposes, but why? Just for looks? (I have to admit it does look hell of cool and I'd put one one just for the appearance).

2. As for more consistent sound at the low end, my beater hits the bass drum head in the exact same spot every time and sounds exactly the same each time I hit it with the same force. How can you get more consistent than that?

3. I'm sure it "sounds amazing," but so do a lot of bass drums without this speaker cone.

You don't need to be so coy - please tell me, WHAT does this DO to your
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All purpose meaning live or studio...

as far as consistentcy.... if you play jazz or metal you get a great sound....(hitting the bass drum soft or hard as hell)

Finally... This gives you more low end then a conventional drum head...whether you mic it or not... and you dont have to be so concerned with tuning or muffeling the drum... the Thunderhead does it all for you...
I hope this helps..
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How sturdy is this head? Is it a regular speaker cone? If I bump something up against my current head it wont break it, but if this is a regular speaker cone, by its deisgn of moving air it must be quite fragile!!!!
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