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Old 12-29-2005, 05:00 AM
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This is the fastest left hand I've seen. Is this modified moeller or something?
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Old 01-08-2006, 08:21 PM
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It looks like a combination Moeller and Gladstone of what I know of these techniques
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Old 02-02-2006, 05:20 AM
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Yeah, Barker might need to work on some finger control, haha, he holds his sticks Corps-style.

I just ordered Art Verdi's DVD, gonna see how it is..
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Old 02-02-2006, 09:20 AM
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I feel real bad. Here I thought that these Art Verdi vids posted where just some random unkown guy (blame the low quality of the vids). Then I look into him and find out he is a very well respected and renown drummer!

How has this guy gone unnoticed so long by me? I hate getting old and losing my mind.
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Old 02-03-2006, 12:40 AM
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Where has Art been?
I been reading about this guy and the wfd for the past 5 or 6 years
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Old 02-03-2006, 05:52 AM
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Verdi played with some of the great jazz legends decades ago, it's the speed thing that makes people forgot about that. He's a groove guy.

But he can do amazing speed and groove.

The guy played with Buddy Rich's bands members a lot years ago.

A lot of people make accusations because they are not nearly as fast and that's a shame - use it as inspiration instead of denial
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Old 02-04-2006, 11:15 PM
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Art deserves credit for his accomplishments but a lot of drummers aren't motivated to do 1100 beats
I don't know if it's because they can't or won't
I can't ha ha
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Old 02-05-2006, 10:02 AM
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I hear ya bro - everyone has their nitch
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Old 02-05-2006, 06:42 PM
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I can't imagine doing 1000. That's 16th notes at 250 BPM!!! Crazy.
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Old 02-06-2006, 10:30 PM
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There was an article on him in Modern Drummer and it said THE ART OF DRUMMING
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Old 02-11-2006, 11:11 PM
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John Mugsey, where is this article on the art of drumming and in what issue of md?
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Old 02-13-2006, 06:31 AM
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Sound Zip,

Who you calling Mugsey?

I dont know what issue it is in, I guess you dont read ModernDrummer, you can subscribe online
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Old 02-26-2006, 09:33 PM
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Art Verdi was in the Modern Drummer Magazine this summer
The article was called Inside the WFD
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Old 03-15-2006, 06:19 PM
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Art Verdi, well I have had the honor of working personally with the man and can tell you first hand he is one of a kind. He's a great drummer, master of the traditional grip, most generous man in the world with his teaching tips, Oh and YES he's FAST! But besides all the craft and musical stuff Art is so great at, he is one of the funniest, kindest, sweetest folks I have ever had the pleasure to work with.

On one video shoot after Boo had a couple (?) brews he decided to torture Art by staging all these crazy gags, even throwing a Speeding Drumometer inches from Art's face while Art was in the middle of filming his educational video. Although we got tons of the most outrageous out-takes from that session, Art never BROKE. He just kept being the true gentleman that he really is.

Art is a true Champion in every sense of the word and it is great seeing him featured here on DW! Two great Champions like DW and AV deserve each other.

TD
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Old 03-15-2006, 06:38 PM
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Just added a little page for Art in the Drummers Around The World Section - with Video:

http://www.drummerworld.com/wishlist...Art_Verdi.html


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Old 03-16-2006, 02:32 PM
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Just added a little page for Art in the Drummers Around The World Section - with Video:

http://www.drummerworld.com/wishlist...Art_Verdi.html


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Bernhard, I saw that and Tim Waterson too! Really awesome stuff! Thanks for putting that up and these WFD guys such as Art and Tim have worked really hard. I know it is an honor for them to be in such great company and also they deserve it as well.

Thanks for giving these guys their page.

TD
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Old 03-25-2006, 09:36 PM
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I just ot here fom Art's page
Cool page
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Old 03-26-2006, 08:01 PM
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They say Art uses mostly fingers when he plays
It looks like Art is using all wrists in that video on his page
The sticks are going one million mlies per hour with the sticks at least a foot off the drum
What gives with this guy?
Is he a wrist guy or a finger technique guy?
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Old 03-26-2006, 08:38 PM
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Nah, I dont think it's wrist, I think Art using a lot of finger muscles
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Old 03-27-2006, 04:51 AM
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If the sticks are more than 12 inches high from the drum no way can it be finger muscles
Fingers are for low soft playing
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:51 PM
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I see your point Johnn. Look at Chambers and Cobham they play fast and groove their butts off
Agreed! I love Dennis Chambers. Great example of an all around drummer. He's blistering fast, he's a showman, a great groove player, great soloist, wonderful time keeper and as he puts all this and more together he can make it work in a musical situation.

Why do people think juswt because some is fast they can't do anything else? Did Buddy Rich's lighting chops really impede his playing? I have been around the WFD, Art Verdi and guys like Tim Waterson for several years now and I can honestly say they have done more through their educational efforts at WFD events to dispelled this type of ignorance than any educator alive today. Even Jim Chapin hangs out at WFD and talks against this type of ignorance.

I enjoyed reading the wonderful article in MD last year about WFD talking about the exact fact of how commited these guys are to breaking down such barriers in thinking. MD praised Art and Tim for their contributions to the educational cause. Before them most did think speed was some kind of BOOGIE MAN that harm humanity. HAHA!

Thank God for Art Verdi.

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Old 03-29-2006, 07:02 PM
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These guys reall do provide a lot in the area of hand and foot technique and very knowledgeable on the topic.

They also are very musical.

A lot of people might say stuff about them cause they know they can't reach their technical prowess. they should learn from them instead. We are all a brotherhood dam it
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Old 03-31-2006, 02:51 PM
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These guys reall do provide a lot in the area of hand and foot technique and very knowledgeable on the topic.

They also are very musical.

A lot of people might say stuff about them cause they know they can't reach their technical prowess. they should learn from them instead. We are all a brotherhood dam it
"they should learn from them instead". Well yea! BUT one of the things about Drumometer and WFD is they were so totally 'off the hook' meaning innovative to the point that they were the first in history, so I thnk quite frankly they simply SCARED people. Lots of folks are scared of change and drumometer and wfd brought change. So instead of embrace it or them as you suggested, folks found if easier to bash and put down etc.....easier than to accept this change and as you say even to advantage of learning from the change.

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Old 04-01-2006, 10:30 PM
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What I read about drumometer is ok but I see a lot of drummers still depend on the old fashioned metronome
Set it on the right speeds and play away
The drumometer is good to check your speed I guess but does it develop your speed any better than the metronome?
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Old 04-22-2006, 03:29 AM
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A lot of drummers always talk about using he metronome along with the Drumometer
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Old 04-23-2006, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: The Truth about Art Verdi

No argument from me. I've never seen him play beyond stuff that was clearly speed or WFD oriented, but everything I hear about his playing from people who've seen it is very positive.

I'm sure Art is one of the many, many absolutely amazing drummers out there of whom we never hear anything. I've met plenty in my time, and there are some astounding people out there.

But I don't think that validates his arguments in favour of the WFD any more than Purdie's glowing discography validates his dodgy Beatles claims. But that's for another thread.
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Old 04-23-2006, 09:32 AM
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Of course Art can groove, play or whatever, just as Dale Jr. can drive a passenger car. This would never even be a question and quite frankly no one would even know who either were if they were not great Champions and competitors in fields that are so controversial as WFD and NASCAR.

They would simply be a good drummer and good driver. Why hate them just because they are great Champions? To me Art trying to prove he can play a drum set is like putting Jeff Gordon and the kids in a family car and saying Ok, now can you drive the family to the park? HAHA! Kind of silly dont you think? :)

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Old 04-23-2006, 10:25 PM
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Of course Art can groove, play or whatever, just as Dale Jr. can drive a passenger car. This would never even be a question and quite frankly no one would even know who either were if they were not great Champions and competitors in fields that are so controversial as WFD and NASCAR.

They would simply be a good drummer and good driver. Why hate them just because they are great Champions? To me Art trying to prove he can play a drum set is like putting Jeff Gordon and the kids in a family car and saying Ok, now can you drive the family to the park? HAHA! Kind of silly dont you think? :)

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Art is a major player and a super guy, period.

Hey, its super to see the great drummer Dan Britt here. But just so you know, Art really doesn't get slammed here. People ask the usual questions here like everywhere else but stuff's cool here.

Alot of people say Drummerworld is WFD insane or something and that really isn't it. The deal is that Drummerworld is the only place that doesn't allow WFD to be cursed at and slandered. So obviously some people think they show favortism. Thats not it very much.
It's just here they allow you to have an actual debate where people don't get made fun of.
Some of the other places have so many jealous fools runnin' around saying such terrible stuff, people just now see that as what's normal.

Dan please go to the WFD and fastest double bass discussions. And please tell Art to come on too. I hear there's somethin' wrong with his computer or something (lol).
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Old 04-26-2006, 05:29 AM
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I wish I could hang with the great master Joe Morello
They say Morello teaches in Jersey
I assume Art is a great player
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Old 05-10-2006, 04:15 AM
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Art Verdi is on myspace and has over 700 friends lol

http://www.myspace.com/artverdi
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Old 05-20-2006, 05:54 PM
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I read many posts about Art Verdi though th last few years
I never read about anyone saying Art can't groove
I only read about drummers wanting to see Art perform musically
They are asking for a musical performance
Whats wrong with that?
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:02 AM
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I read a very negative post about Mike Mangini not being a good player and just being a speed freak
These WFD guys are all great players
Look how great of a player Johnny Rabb is
I think it's just sour grapes
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:01 PM
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How could anyone write a negative thing about Mike Mangini
Mike has every ability a drummer would want
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Old 06-10-2006, 09:00 AM
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Verdi is a sick mo-fo! This video says it all!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...182&pr=goog-sl
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Old 07-03-2006, 08:22 PM
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Where does this dude get all this energy?
The man got to be over 50
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Old 07-07-2006, 03:31 AM
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Art is well over 50 and so is Cobham
Louie Bellson is over 80 and I think Vinnie is over 50
A lot of these guys have been around a long time and really can play
Look at all the energy Buddy had and he was close to 70 when he passed
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Old 07-07-2006, 05:45 AM
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Amazing Verdi solo! I'm on the subscription list for this channel on Youtube and this came in today!

Totally musical, then crazy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6t1FGPcTvM
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:20 AM
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Buddy Rich played fast till his death at close to 70 years young
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:13 PM
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The most interesting thing I can think of immediately after seeing the name "Art Verdi" (for many reasons) is a direct comparison between Buddy Rich's single stroke rolls and Verdi's. We all know the LOVE Art felt (and fells) for the master drummer, also, Buddy's speed and stamina are pretty much similar to Art's achievements... I just don't know who is faster.

At one of Buddy's videos (the one called "Buddy Rich 1970"), when executing his classic, prolongued and controlled single stroke roll, he'd reach around 1.200 (or more) bpm, but just for a small period of time. Right after that, he slows it down to around 1.100 and keep it pretty much controlled, with virtually almost no physical effort at all.

We know that Art could reach around 1.120 pbm or something, how many Buddy would? One thing is for sure: Buddy had better stamina... he would barelly get tired, speedwise? I really don't know... maybe Buddy could be faster, maybe not... this is an interesting comparison between these 2 very fast drummers alike.
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:26 AM
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If Art Verdi can keep up an 1120 pace for 60 seconds I'm sure he can reach 1200 for a few seconds
Keeping a 1120 pace for a minute is one of the hardest things to do I think
These two drummers are very close and nobody will ever be able to answer the question of who is faster because Buddy is dead
The speed Verdi has with brushes on one of these links gave me goose bumps
A musical quality to it also
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