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Old 03-08-2018, 03:58 PM
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Would bar soap on the bearing edge help or hurt the seating and tuning of a new head?
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Old 03-09-2018, 03:07 AM
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Over 100 views and not one response?

Alrighty then...

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Old 03-09-2018, 03:22 AM
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I would have responded, but the answer would just be, I don't know. lol
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Old 03-09-2018, 03:27 AM
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Interesting. Seriously, I don't think it would harm anything... I'm just curious if anyone ever heard of such a thing before.
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:07 AM
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Iím in the same boat as IDDrummer; I honestly have no clue what it would do. I do know that in the Ď60s, Hal Blaineís drumtech Rick Faucher used to put saddle soap on his calfskin heads. Iím guessing the soap would make the heads feel a little softer. That was with calf though, so I think it would just make Mylar heads soapy with no benefit.
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:13 AM
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I won't be putting it on the head, just a light application to the bearing edge.
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:13 AM
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Sorry man, I got to this as soon as I could. You can do that. Some people use paraffin-- like you get at the grocery store for canning. I would use that over soap.
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:15 AM
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That sounds even better!
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:21 AM
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Are you having a problem with tuning? I can see using soap on the tension rods so they turn smoothly, but bearing edges? Sounds like a bad idea to me.
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:33 AM
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I put parrifin wax on my edges to help the had slide over the bearing edge. I think soap is a bad idea because it would ruin the woody smell of the drum. You dont want to take a head off and be knocked over by Irish spring.
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Old 03-09-2018, 05:02 AM
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I use this on my edges: http://www.minwax.com/wood-products/...-finishing-wax
Apply and buff by hand.

Not sure if it does anything for seating or tuning.
Probably the main benefit is that it's one of the things I do that makes me feel like I'm taking care of my drums.

I wouldn't use bar soap.
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Old 03-09-2018, 05:04 AM
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I'm not gonna use soap.
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Old 03-09-2018, 07:50 PM
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On a side note, I see that you're fluent in Irish.
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Old 03-09-2018, 07:56 PM
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Soap is probably too soft to really have a long-term value -- at some point it can get gummy with dust and actually make things worse.

You don't really want a lubricant on edges -- what you really need is to create a very hard, very smooth surface. So paraffin can help, but the ideal would be a hard wax like beeswax or carnauba, polished up to be very smooth.
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Old 03-10-2018, 01:13 AM
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I've never done it but I'd heard that running a bar of beeswax around the bearing edge has an effect. And to me beeswax sounds like the kind of thing that you could use on wood without qualms.
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Old 03-10-2018, 07:03 AM
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I was thinking beeswax, too. It's great stuff!
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Old 03-10-2018, 07:24 AM
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I was under the impression that wax is something that you would use for rough or round-over bearing edges to allow the head to tune easily against the high friction. That it was a relic from the era when bearing edges were hit or miss and you had actual calfskin rubbing against the peak and a lamp inside the drum to keep them warm.

I don't think that it's necessary on modern kits these days, and if you do find it necessary, a re-cut of your bearing edges might a better investment than rubbing bar of soap on them.

And why not just use a candle like everyone else?
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Old 03-11-2018, 06:27 AM
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There is a product specifically for that (maybe others too). This one does claim to have some advantages over non-drum solutions.
DrumDial Bearing Edge Conditioner.
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Old 03-18-2018, 06:57 AM
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It seems to me that "lubing" the bearing edges would attract dust and build up dirt to an area that was supposed to be to be clean and dry.
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