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Old 07-10-2017, 12:31 AM
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For the love of God, please don't add an R to make it sound like Jerful Noise.
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Sonor is another good one. I've always said SO-NAR (like what they use on submarines), but have heard it pronounced more like SO-NUR. Problem is I've been saying some of these a certain way for so long that it's hard to change, lol
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What about UFIP? I always sounded out the letters (you eff eye pee) because I knew they were an abbreviation . However, I watched a Greenbrier Percussion demo video the other day, and Mr. Whitesides said he was playing some "oooh fip" cymbals. Would someone like to weigh in on this one?
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What about UFIP? I always sounded out the letters (you eff eye pee) because I knew they were an abbreviation . However, I watched a Greenbrier Percussion demo video the other day, and Mr. Whitesides said he was playing some "oooh fip" cymbals. Would someone like to weigh in on this one?


You Fip



UFIP-

Universal Federation of Intergalactic Pleiadians

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Old 07-10-2017, 05:38 AM
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I've got another one.

AVEDIS.

I used to pronounce it AHvuhdis (1)

But then I started saying it like AhVEEdis (2)

On two American youtube videos I watched, including Sweetwater's Nick D'Virgilio, it's being pronounced like (1).

On two British videos I saw, they're saying it like (2). And there are comments correcting them that it should be pronounced like (1).
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Asking how to pronounce 'Sakae' in another thread got me to thinking about some of the other drum company names. I'm sure there are other threads on this, but oh well, I didn't do a search, lol. I'll start with a few off the top of my head. Feel free to add others.

Taye - pronounced TIE

Tama- I've always said TOM-UH. But I've heard others say TAME-UH. What do you think?

Paiste- from studying German, I believe this to be pronounced PIE-STEE.

Ddrum - I've always said DEE-DRUM. Anyone heard it differently?

Sakae- ???

What other ones are there?
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I live in NC, so in the South, we tend to make up our own rules, so here are my personal pronunciations:

Taye - TIE

Tama - TAM-Uh

Paiste - PIE-stee

Ddrum - DEE-drum

Sakae - suh-KIE

Ayotte - ā-YO-tee

Natal - NAY-tel

Dunnett - DUN et (Just like "Done it.")

Yamaha - YAH-ma-ha

Ludwig - LUD-wig

Sonar - SO-nar

Bozzio - Bō-zio

Oriollo - or-e-O-lo

Peart - Either "Pert" or "Peart" with the "ear"-sound.

Avedis - ah-VEE-dus


Here's the one that's going to cause a knock-down/drag-out:

How do you pronounce "djembe?"

Me?

duh-JEM-bay
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Old 07-10-2017, 06:40 PM
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Oh and by the way,

thanks to everyone for contributing to a thread in which I've read the whole thing either mumbling or while my mouth was moving...

...while at work.
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Here's the one that's going to cause a knock-down/drag-out:

How do you pronounce "djembe?"

Me?

duh-JEM-bay
Nope. Don't pronounce the d. Just JEMbay.
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Old 07-10-2017, 07:33 PM
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How do you pronounce Beato as in Beato bags?
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Bee-ay-to......lol Just kidding.
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Old 07-10-2017, 08:21 PM
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How do you pronounce Beato as in Beato bags?
That one is easy. It Bay-to like in Pay-stee.

(Beato / Paiste)
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Old 07-10-2017, 08:24 PM
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I live in NC, so in the South, we tend to make up our own rules, so here are my personal pronunciations:
Native Spanish speakers have a similar trick to do. My favorite is how we say "Rogers" it becomes "Roy-ers".

I also realized that "Tama" sounds the same in Spanish on account of us having the same vowels as the Japanese "Tama" rhymes with "Mama" as someone said. Apparently it means "round and precious"
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Old 07-10-2017, 08:26 PM
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Native Spanish speakers have a similar trick to do. My favorite is how we say "Rogers" it becomes "Roy-ers".
That's how we pronounce Dodgers too!
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Apparently it means "round and precious"

In that call, all of y'all can start calling me "Tama." :)
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I live in NC, so in the South, we tend to make up our own rules, so here are my personal pronunciations:
Taye - TIE - Check

Tama - TAM-Uh - Check

Paiste - PIE-stee - Check

Ddrum - DEE-drum - Check

Sakae - suh-KIE - Sah-Kay

Ayotte - ā-YO-tee - Check

Natal - NAY-tel - Nah-Tal

Dunnett - DUN et (Just like "Done it.") - Check

Yamaha - YAH-ma-ha - Check

Ludwig - LUD-wig - Check

Sonar - SO-nar - Check

Bozzio - Bō-zio - Check

Oriollo - or-e-O-lo - Check

Peart - Either "Pert" or "Peart" with the "ear"-sound - Purt (Although I know I'm wrong)

Avedis - ah-VEE-dus - Ahv-veh-dis
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Old 07-10-2017, 09:25 PM
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That one is easy. It Bay-to like in Pay-stee.

(Beato / Paiste)
Only I just saw a video where a guy was named Beato and he pronounced it using 3 syllables. Be-a-to.

I always used 2 syllables, Beat-o
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like in Pay-stee.(Paiste)
Nope, it's PIEstee. :)



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Only I just saw a video where a guy was named Beato and he pronounced it using 3 syllables. Be-a-to.

I always used 2 syllables, Beat-o
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Natal = nuh TAL (almost like nuh-"towel")

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Odery - Brazilian drum company

pronounced OH-duh-ree
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Avedis - ah-VEE-dus - Ahv-veh-dis
You're right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBDrir6Mi-o

(check out 5:28)

Never heard them called "AV-eh-dus."
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Guru - pronounced:

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I live in NC....
What part? I grew up just north of Winston, live in VA now.
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Here in the UK this is mostly how I hear these words being said.

Taye: Tay (rhymes with pay)

Tama: Tayma or Tarma, I hear both.

Paiste: Pay-stee or Pie-stee.

Ddrum: Dee-drum

Sakae: Sar-kay

Sonor: So-Nor

Natal: Na-tahl.

Yamaha: Yam-aha. It makes me giggle when I hear Americans say Yar-mar-har.
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YAMAHA-

ya Ma hah

Stress on the Ma
Interesting I've always heard and said it like Ya ma Hah (stress on Ya and Hah)
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Some of you guys have to be kidding. Lood-wig? Questioning Mapex and Yamaha?
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My Bulgarian friend calls DW

duh duble veh

Check this one out for the Japanese pronunciation of Yamaha

Yamaha

Hey is Dunnett "done it" or "duhnette" ?

Ludwig - I also use the german "looooodvigg" but just to mess with people.

Hey is Mapex "mop ex" or mah pecs or May Pex or Mape Ex ?

Guru - "Goo Roo"

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Oh man that's funny! I am Bulgarian and I can totally relay to that hahah.

I have really hard time with Vater... Like is it like water but with "V"? or Vader ( Darth Vader) but with "t"?

Sometimes I can see the desperation in the eyes of the salesmen in the local music stores when I go gear shopping and they can't figure out what I'm saying. I've been living in Canada for 13 years now, but some things will never change lol.
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I've always pronounced Paiste as Pase-tee.
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I'm pretty sure Ayotte is actually pronounced this way Ehhh - yacht.
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Nope, it's PIEstee. :)





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Whenever the letter "e" is pronouced with an "ee" sound, you can be sure it's an anglicization. In every other European language, be they of germanic, latin, slavic or Finnish-ugric (as in the case of Paiste) origin, it's always "eh".

So I'm confident "Paiste" is correctly pronounced "Pie-steh".
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What part? I grew up just north of Winston, live in VA now.
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I have really hard time with Vater... Like is it like water but with "V"? or Vader ( Darth Vader) but with "t"?
Yes, it's like Vader but with a "t". It's a good point you raised though about water and this is the fascinating thing about the english language. Like, dater, cater, hater, later, mater, pater, rater are all pronounced like Vater. And yet water is an exception that sounds like war-ter.



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Whenever the letter "e" is pronouced with an "ee" sound, you can be sure it's an anglicization. In every other European language, be they of germanic, latin, slavic or Finnish-ugric (as in the case of Paiste) origin, it's always "eh".

So I'm confident "Paiste" is correctly pronounced "Pie-steh".
Interesting, I didn't know that. I'm sure you're correct about how "e" as an "ee" sound is pronounced in europe and so it probably should technically be pronounced "Pie-steh". But on the official Paiste Cymbals youtube channel, all the artists pronounce it PIEstee and you'd think Paiste might correct them. Or perhaps they accept it's been said as PIEstee (and PAYstee, and Paste) for years and don't feel the need to change it as long as it rolls off the tongue easily enough for people to remember the brand name and continue to buy their products. I've never yet heard anyone say "Pie-steh".
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So I'm confident "Paiste" is correctly pronounced "Pie-steh".
Whilst 'pie-stee' is the widely accepted pronunciation adopted by the company itself, it looks like the origins of the word are pretty much as you're describing.

According to Wiki: Paiste (pronounced Pie-Stee, the original Estonian and Finnish pronunciation is pie-ste


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But regardless, it's their company and if they're laying claim to pie-stee as being correct, then I see no reason not to follow suit.
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Whilst 'pie-stee' is the widely accepted pronunciation adopted by the company itself, it looks like the origins of the word are pretty much as you're describing.

According to Wiki: Paiste (pronounced Pie-Stee, the original Estonian and Finnish pronunciation is pie-ste


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paiste


But regardless, it's their company and if they're laying claim to pie-stee as being correct, then I see no reason not to follow suit.
Sure, the name has been internalized by drummers and industry figures in the English speaking world to the extent that you might say that 'PIEstee' is a de facto "correct" pronounciation. But I'm still 100% certain that Erik Paiste himself does not pronounce his name like that!
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What about UFIP? I always sounded out the letters (you eff eye pee) because I knew they were an abbreviation . However, I watched a Greenbrier Percussion demo video the other day, and Mr. Whitesides said he was playing some "oooh fip" cymbals. Would someone like to weigh in on this one?
That isn't the only weird pronunciation I've heard from him. I remember a demo video where he called the Ludwig do-it-yourself kit a "sign-it" instead of a Sig-net. I can't tell if he does it on purpose or doesn't get out much.
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Interesting thread ! For a French messing sometimes with prononciation!
How do you (English language people) pronounce "Premier" ? It's a French word everybody here pronounce it in French (Pre-mié) but do you say prémeer ??
Ludwig tends to be pronounced in German (Loodvig). Like Bethoven.
Sakae would be Saka-é. Japanese doesn't have diphthongs sounds.
Natal ( French word) is pronounced like Tama or Mama ;-)
Sonor (existing word in French) is So-nor : no trick.
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Interesting thread ! For a French messing sometimes with prononciation!
How do you (English language people) pronounce "Premier" ? It's a French word everybody here pronounce it in French (Pre-mié) but do you say prémeer ??
This word varies by geography here. On the first syllable, it varies from hard E to soft E, and in some cases a full schwa for gutter mouths like me (pruh-meer).

In 99.9% of cases, the "r" is pronounced unless we're specifically trying to poke fun at the french or our Canadian neighbors.
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Sure, the name has been internalized by drummers and industry figures in the English speaking world to the extent that you might say that 'PIEstee' is a de facto "correct" pronounciation. But I'm still 100% certain that Erik Paiste himself does not pronounce his name like that!
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I always thought Ayotte was pronounced like a New Englander confirming something.

Ay-yut

That's just a guess, I never knew the proper pronunciation.

Alternatively, I-oat.
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Call it whatever the hell you like mate.
Well that would make this thread rather pointless ;)

I didn't mean to be confrontational or anything! Nerdy discussions, isn't that why we're all here?
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