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Old 06-02-2017, 11:35 PM
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Default A proposal for the forum regarding For Sale items.

I've been looking in the For Sale thread and it occurs to me that it is fairly unmanageable.

What do people think about having a subforum purely for 'For Sale' items?

We could have it delineated by geographical region (even if it is just USA, Europe, Asia etc) and this should hopefully make it much easier to find/buy/sell gear.
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Old 06-03-2017, 02:05 AM
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The taklbass forum appears to have the epitome of a working want-ads/sale subform.

Unfortunately, their forum runs on an entirely different server-side software.

https://www.talkbass.com/categories/classifieds.283/
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Old 06-03-2017, 02:24 AM
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I am in and out of the Classifieds all day and would dare say more than 95% of it is for sale items. What am I missing in your request???
The other thing I have begged for for years is that people put their homeland in their details that show up in the top right of each box with every post. Everyone would then be aware of the location and be better aware if it would be an item they would be interested in pursuing, but to date it has fallen on deaf ears. It only takes a second to go to the User CP and put the location in their details.
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Old 06-03-2017, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: A proposal for the forum regarding For Sale items.

It used to be the mods kept the for sale thread trimmed down. Anything over x number of weeks would be deleted. But different mods came and went, and it doesn't seem to get done any more.

A sub-forum divided by region would be much better.

It's been discussed in the past, but never seems to result in action.
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Old 06-03-2017, 02:29 AM
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I am in and out of the Classifieds all day and would dare say more than 95% of it is for sale items. What am I missing in your request???
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2601
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5) This thread will remain Sticky, but all posts older than 90 days will be deleted in the interest of keeping things current. If your items are still for sale or if you are still looking for an item after your post has been deleted, please feel free to repost.
Yet, every post from June 6th 2012 is still up.

And the lack of geographical distinction is a bit of pain. There have been times I though about buying something only to realize it's on the other side of the world, and shipping would be prohibitive.
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Old 06-04-2017, 06:17 AM
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The Classifieds are now pared down to 3 pages and only three months old. I will keep a better eye on keeping it down to a manageable list. Please list your Geographical Location in your thread so members can bypass those not feasible. And please if you SELL, go back and edit your post to show it SOLD. Thanks
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ADDENDUM: For those of you that sell on Ebay and post your link here, Please come back and mark your post sold, if it sells, or ended, if you take it down. We have no way of telling what sells on Ebay without visiting every Ebay link to see what is going on. Please do your part to make the classified section manageable and current. Thanks. Johnny.
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Old 06-06-2017, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: A proposal for the forum regarding For Sale items.

My point is it is still a bit unmanageable, especially for those of us that live out of the US.
I have to look through three pages of classified to find the few things that are available to the UK.
Half of them don't have any location information so you have to read the entire post to work out where it is located.

Having a subforum for classified would be much easier and wouldn't cost the forum any resources.
I'm suggesting the following architecture:

For Sale Subforums
\-----> USA For Sale & WTB
\-------> Europe For Sale & WTB
\--------> Rest of World For Sale & WTB

No disrespect intended but in its current form it is difficult to use at all.
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I would recommend sending your proposal to Bernhard as this kind of decision is out of my pay grade.
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:03 AM
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I was hoping to get some member support for the idea before I approached the forum admins.
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Old 06-07-2017, 04:26 AM
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Default Re: A proposal for the forum regarding For Sale items.

I think it's an excellent idea.

However, I've noticed that this forum is spectacularly resistant to change.
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Old 06-07-2017, 04:58 AM
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I was hoping to get some member support for the idea before I approached the forum admins.
You have my support!

I really think this whole board needs an upgrade.

Nothing has changed here in well over 10 years, even though vBullentin has had numerous upgrades since then.

Though James is right, many here are very resistant to change.
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Old 06-07-2017, 07:00 AM
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If it happens add Canada . lol We get hosed on shipping and duty ordering international.
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I was hoping to get some member support for the idea before I approached the forum admins.
Makes perfect sense to me. Anything that makes buying and selling gear easier is bound to attract more hits to the site, and more sellers and punters.

Where is the for sale section currently?

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Old 06-07-2017, 05:47 PM
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Hey guys, I kind of agree with this but, remember what Gruntersdad said, there is a location section on your profile page that will do the same thing if it's filled in.
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Old 06-07-2017, 08:19 PM
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Hey guys, I kind of agree with this but, remember what Gruntersdad said, there is a location section on your profile page that will do the same thing if it's filled in.
So what do I do if I don't want to look at every heckin post and reference the top right box where someone is able to put a location? What if it makes way, way, way more sense to simply click on a thread or sub-forum that has stuff from my state, part of my country, or perhaps even local area?

I don't check that thread because it's not very efficient, to say the very least. Can you imagine if Craigslist just had a single running list of everything and each item had it's location listed separately from the last?
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I'm always amazed when posters that don't put their location up assume we're all American and can answer their specific, regional question...
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I'm always amazed when posters that don't put their location up assume we're all American and can answer their specific, regional question...
North America is best America.
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North America is best America.
'Murica! Oh yeah!

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No politics please folks- I'm trying to justify a significantly change to the forum architecture and I don't want it to be sidelined.

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Old 06-07-2017, 10:08 PM
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Again, where is the current for sale section on the forum?
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Old 06-07-2017, 10:12 PM
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It's in the General Discussion Section, and near the top, Classifieds. I now have it pared down to 2 pages.
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It's in the General Discussion Section, and near the top, Classifieds. I now have it pared down to 2 pages.
Thanks mate. Yep, we really need a page for GB or European sales. Scrolling through all the dollar sales and wants is not a lot of fun. There are people on here who are not living in the USA.
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I quite agree with your issue and have hoped that by paring down the pages from 57 to 2 or 3, a quick glance will show basically what is being sold. As I mentioned earlier, changes to the site are at the discretion of Bernhard only. We only monitor what is posted. I could see three pages, Americas, Europe and the Australia region. We will see what happens.
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: A proposal for the forum regarding For Sale items.

Having the classifieds as a sticky is not the best solution. It should have it's own section, which can be subdivided by type i.e.: cymbals, drums etc. Having a more clearly defined classified area might drive more traffic.
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Ok, I've PM'ed the powers that be about this.

Stay tuned. :)
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: A proposal for the forum regarding For Sale items.

If any of y'all have been to ghostnote.net, they have it set up like that. It seems to work quite well>

http://www.ghostnote.net/vbforum/for...E-TRADING-POST
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I am a member of Ghostnote and have bought and sold there as well and their classified section is the same as it is here. It is called the Trading Post. Chronological in reverse order. They have Bold print that says For Sale or Wanted but not by country or product. It has it's own header, where this one is under General Discussion, but it's no easier to navigate other than being in reverse chronological order. It has also not been pared down as there are ads there still from 2009.
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:14 PM
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It is much easier to navigate. You open it and you get a bunch of headers which you can use to chose what you want to look at. Here a sticky thread you have open and scroll through whole messages.
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Old 06-10-2017, 02:53 AM
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It is much easier to navigate. You open it and you get a bunch of headers which you can use to chose what you want to look at. Here a sticky thread you have open and scroll through whole messages.
+1 Ghostnote's layout is much more organized/easier to navigate, just seeing headers (like on CL or eBay), instead of having to scroll through everyone's entire ad.
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