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Exceedingly rare and unique Paiste made only 3 drum kits.

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Danny Carrey has one of these. I wonder who got the third kit?

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I bet they were amazing through an arena's sound system.
Just the mention of shipping by sea with a pallet is an indication of their weight!
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As a kid I wanted a stainless (chrome) kit something fierce, and then DW came out with their Liquid Copper and Anodized Stainless Blue Series, but these Paiste kits ice the cake. Even the badges are absurdly sick.
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Those look sweet. I really like the lugs too.
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You do occasionally see the snares come up for sale at absurd prices. Not sure of the quantities they made of those.

When I saw Carl Palmer with Asia in 2006 he was using a Brady kit with his Paiste snare. Saw Danny Carey use his Paiste snare in 2007.

Danny Carey uses his on a few tracks on 10,000 days. Jambi I know for sure, you can here the difference.

Never understood why Carl Palmer or Danny Carey had a signature snare made after they had the Paiste one made. Are they ever used?
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Those look sweet. I really like the lugs too.
Oh yeah. Everything about the kit separates itself from the ordinary.
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You do occasionally see the snares come up for sale at absurd prices. Not sure of the quantities they made of those.

When I saw Carl Palmer with Asia in 2006 he was using a Brady kit with his Paiste snare. Saw Danny Carey use his Paiste snare in 2007.

Danny Carey uses his on a few tracks on 10,000 days. Jambi I know for sure, you can here the difference.

Never understood why Carl Palmer or Danny Carey had a signature snare made after they had the Paiste one made. Are they ever used?
Good to know! I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for one!
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Man, I would love one of those kits!!

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I bet they were amazing through an arena's sound system.
Just the mention of shipping by sea with a pallet is an indication of their weight!
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Does anyone know the shell thickness on those?
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I think they were made by Jeff Ocheltree, and his drums are usually 3mm with 5mm rings top and bottom, so my guess is the Paiste drums are the same.
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Does anyone know the shell thickness on those?
My guess is 5mm. Have a look-see
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My guess is 5mm. Have a look-see
I could totally see getting some toms like that, although the bass drum would just be overkill. I might even get Oriollo to make me some rack toms like that, maybe a 12x8 and a 14x9.
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I could totally see getting some toms like that, although the bass drum would just be overkill. I might even get Oriollo to make me some rack toms like that, maybe a 12x8 and a 14x9.
I was reading a little more related to this kit and it was mentioned that the bass drums (alone) weigh 100 lbs.
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I saw Carey's kit at NAMM several years ago, and noted that the drums were very heavy. I didn't think they sounded very good though, a bit thin and choked for my taste although they had great attack!

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I saw Carey's kit at NAMM several years ago, and noted that the drums were very heavy. I didn't think they sounded very good though, a bit thin and choked for my taste although they had great attack!

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I always felt like those drums were the sort of instruments you had to motivate in an extraordinarily physical manner. The video of Carey playing them makes them sound unreal IMO, and his size allowed him to seriously play those monstrous tubs
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I was reading a little more related to this kit and it was mentioned that the bass drums (alone) weigh 100 lbs.
Yeah, that's just pointless. You get a lower fundamental with a thinner shell, anyway. And that's what you want from a kick, in my humble opinion.
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I saw Carey's kit at NAMM several years ago, and noted that the drums were very heavy. I didn't think they sounded very good though, a bit thin and choked for my taste although they had great attack!

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Probably need sharper edges and thinner heads. But yeah, they're going to not resonate very well at the frequencies we usually associate with toms of those sizes. The thick shell raises the fundamental. Maybe if they were extra deep, you could get the fundamental low enough to sound like what we're used to with toms.
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Good to know! I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for one!
There is a 14x6.5 N&C Zildjian Snare on ebay going for a steal at 2300 :)
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I saw Carey's kit at NAMM several years ago, and noted that the drums were very heavy. I didn't think they sounded very good though, a bit thin and choked for my taste although they had great attack!

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Yeah, that's just pointless. You get a lower fundamental with a thinner shell, anyway. And that's what you want from a kick, in my humble opinion.
I wonder if better kits (sound-wise) couldn't have been produced had they started off with a standard wood shell and crowned each drum with the alloy, much thinner of course.
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There is a 14x6.5 N&C Zildjian Snare on ebay going for a steal at 2300 :)
That's enough to make a guy wince. Works out to be $4037.59 CAD. I'll take a look for fun. Thanks, Mik!
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Oh yeah, I remember those.
"The Sound of 2002" or something like that.
They were massively expensive when they came out. I'm not surprised they only made 3.
A lot nicer than their prior foray into drum building though, that's for sure!


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I wonder if better kits (sound-wise) couldn't have been produced had they started off with a standard wood shell and crowned each drum with the alloy, much thinner of course.
Or just do a rolled and welded shell, maybe 1-2 mm thick. I've got a 16x14 floor tom from Echo Drums that's rolled and welded brass. It sounds really good.
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I can't imagine something of that weight and price. Sheesh.
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Or just do a rolled and welded shell, maybe 1-2 mm thick. I've got a 16x14 floor tom from Echo Drums that's rolled and welded brass. It sounds really good.
Exactly. The new Stainless DW's are 1.5mm and rolled.
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"The Sound of 2002" or something like that.
They were massively expensive when they came out. I'm not surprised they only made 3.
A lot nicer than their prior foray into drum building though, that's for sure!


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I can't imagine something of that weight and price. Sheesh.
Indeed, but what stunning kits.
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A friend of mine said, "Those look like the Deloreon of drum sets."
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The link says "...These drums would have had a retail price of almost $38,000..."
Too bad they didn't leave up the price they sold for.
It also says they were made in 2002 (I wonder why - ha ha.)

I like the 'idea' of them, but am positive I wouldn't like the weight, and also
am pretty sure the sound of the wouldn't work with my playing style.

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I wonder who bought them?
Maybe... Yankee Doodle?
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The link says "...These drums would have had a retail price of almost $38,000..."
Too bad they didn't leave up the price they sold for.
It also says they were made in 2002 (I wonder why - ha ha.)

I like the 'idea' of them, but am positive I wouldn't like the weight, and also
am pretty sure the sound of the wouldn't work with my playing style.

Sometimes stuff is cool even when you know it wouldn't work for you at all.
I was curious as to the selling price, too.
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I wonder who bought them?
Maybe... Yankee Doodle?
Somewhat hush-hush isn't it.
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The link says "...These drums would have had a retail price of almost $38,000..."
Too bad they didn't leave up the price they sold for.
It also says they were made in 2002 (I wonder why - ha ha.)

I like the 'idea' of them, but am positive I wouldn't like the weight, and also
am pretty sure the sound of the wouldn't work with my playing style.

Sometimes stuff is cool even when you know it wouldn't work for you at all.
Told you guys they were massively expensive.
38G's sounds about right...and familiar.


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