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Old 04-22-2017, 02:21 PM
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Default Carter McLean - Developing "Ear Chops"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPyRvwj2wxw

"I find this to be really good practice. Find a song with no drums. Play to it like its live. First take. LISTEN. Pretend its a gig and you cant start over. THIS WAS A FIRST TAKE. I have not listened to this tune in a LONG time. IT makes you really LISTEN to what is happening around you. NOT DRUM CHOPS......but EAR chops. NOT FANTASTIC but a great practice."


Ahhh, perfect complement to my first cup of Saturday morning coffee. I could listen to Carter all day long.
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Old 04-22-2017, 02:28 PM
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Diana Krall's "Love Scenes" is one of my favorites for doing this kind of thing.
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Old 04-22-2017, 04:53 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPyRvwj2wxw

"I find this to be really good practice. Find a song with no drums. Play to it like its live. First take. LISTEN. Pretend its a gig and you cant start over. THIS WAS A FIRST TAKE. I have not listened to this tune in a LONG time. IT makes you really LISTEN to what is happening around you. NOT DRUM CHOPS......but EAR chops. NOT FANTASTIC but a great practice."


Ahhh, perfect complement to my first cup of Saturday morning coffee. I could listen to Carter all day long.

Been doing the same thing this morning. Great start to my day.

I'm also a member of Carter's teaching site. It's been one of the best things I've ever done for my drumming in a long time.
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Carter's time feel is sooo greasy. There's a man who is totally comfortable with time. Even his last name implies that he's clean :)

I am appreciating time feel on an ever increasing basis, guys like Carter, Jim Gordon, Steve Gadd, Levon Helm, Roger Hawkins, Purdie, Blade, and OMG a ton of others. It's hard to quantify it, that's what's so great about it. Certain players have this feel that's just on a different higher level. I believe it's because they are quite comfortable with themselves and posses inner happiness and maybe even joy. It's something that doesn't get as much coverage as it's due IMO.

Could time feel be tied to inner harmony?
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I'm also a member of Carter's teaching site. It's been one of the best things I've ever done for my drumming in a long time.
Good to know Clint. I've been thinking of joining up, if nothing else, just to compensate Carter for all the good he's done me. Have you done any Skype lessons with him or has it been the streaming video thing?
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Several suitable Beatles songs for this approach, starting with Yesterday.
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Your ears are the most important learning tool you have. I was in an originals band back in the day and new songs would be presented either on acoustic guitars or un plugged electrics, bass etc with vocal. Usually in someones living room, so I had no kit. I would listen to the new song and play along just tapping hands on knees on the second or third run through, and tapping feet for BD and HH.

I would pretty much keep what I played at the first listen, no matter how many times we later played the song, as that is the emotion/feel the song gave me the first time I heard it and played it. Listening back to later recordings I was largely right, so I didnt mess with the emotion/feel just to fit in some fancy stuff to make me look good.
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Several suitable Beatles songs for this approach, starting with Yesterday.
Brushes for that, don't you think? Or just congas/djembe, maybe.
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Several suitable Beatles songs for this approach, starting with Yesterday.
Indeed, though some of the more popular ones would be difficult for me to have a "live on the gig, new song" experience like Carter is talking about, simply because I've heard them so many times.
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Old 04-26-2017, 04:32 PM
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Good to know Clint. I've been thinking of joining up, if nothing else, just to compensate Carter for all the good he's done me. Have you done any Skype lessons with him or has it been the streaming video thing?

Hey Jason! No Skype lessons so far. I've just been working off of his online lessons which have been really helpful. However, I've been recently considering starting Skype lessons. I really enjoy his teaching style and I have some specific techniques I'd like to get his input on.
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