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Old 03-17-2017, 10:51 PM
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Default Most versatile tom sizes, 4 tom setup.

What do players think is the best 3/4 tom set up for versatility in terms of diameter and shell depth?
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Old 03-18-2017, 12:02 AM
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Tom sizes are personal taste. That said, there's a reason

12 13 16

10 12 14 (16)

and more current

10 12 16

are standard preselected configurations.



Other things are normal too, but you asked for most versatile so.




I use a very boring and typical 10, 12, 14, 16, 22, what I guess they call "fusion" sizes these days. To me, when doing a wide selection of pop music it's sometimes like having two 5-piece kits in one.


With head selection and tuning you can get close to the other extreme of the spectrum as well. Some like big drums tuned high and some like small drums tuned low. Want deeper tone? Use thicker heads. Want brigher tone? Use thinner heads.
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:44 AM
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I am using 10, 12, and 14 but have used 8, 10, 12, 14 and 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 and all combinations of those sizes.
Depths are all over the place depending on brand.
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: Most versatile tom sizes, 4 tom setup.

I find 10/12/16 to be a nice 3 tom setup. A nice 4 tom is 10/12/14/16 though. If you really want to have a HUGE spread of sound you could try 12/15/18 or 10/12/15/18.
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Old 03-18-2017, 02:08 AM
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If I were ever to run four toms I would use 10 X 8, 13 X 9, 15 X 13, 16 X 16.
I was surprised how much I liked the 10/13/16 set up back in the 90's.
I'd add the 15" tom as one more voice.
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Old 03-18-2017, 02:17 AM
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I grew up on 12-13-16. So I add an 18 to that.
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Old 03-18-2017, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: Most versatile tom sizes, 4 tom setup.

For two toms I prefer 13/16; for three, 12/14/16; for four, 10/12/14/16.
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Old 03-18-2017, 02:47 AM
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I like the idea of 10x7, 13X9 (the 13 is pretty versatile of tuning in either 12 or 14 in pitch ranges) , and 16X16. So you can use the 10 and pair it with either the 13 or 16 -if you just wanted two toms. The 13/16 is great paired together too though. I've grown really fond of the 10 in tom so I'd like to have one for the mix.
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Old 03-18-2017, 04:12 AM
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8-10-13-16 or 10-12-14-16. I kind of like the spread of the 8 to 16 inch toms, but not everyone loves the little 8.
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:11 PM
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10,12,15ft,18ft

but if i was doing more more Rock gigs it would be

10x7,12x8,14x10,16x14ft,18x16ft

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Old 03-18-2017, 01:38 PM
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13 14 16 18 15 snare and 14 snare.
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Old 03-18-2017, 02:09 PM
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I've tried my best to like the "new" standard 10 12 16. I don't like much. Really prefer the old 12 13 16 to which I sometimes add a 10". I like to have the 12 in front and the 16 on my right.
I would have the possibility I would definitely go 12x8 13x9 16 18.

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Old 03-18-2017, 10:58 PM
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I'm a 2 floor guy so I go it's either 12/14/16 or 12/16/18.

Either are a comfortable set up for me. Both kits are set up for different sounds so horses for courses.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: Most versatile tom sizes, 4 tom setup.

I like 10 (x 8), 12 (x 9), 14 (x 12), and a 16 (x 14).

I think 8" toms and 18" toms are great, but they aren't that versatile IMO.

I don't like odd-sized toms (13's, 15's, etc.). But, I do like a good 13" snare from time to time. :)

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Old 03-20-2017, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: Most versatile tom sizes, 4 tom setup.

I don't like the 12 to 16 jump in toms.
9x13/16x16/16x18
8x10/9x12/12x14/14x16
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: Most versatile tom sizes, 4 tom setup.

I used an 8x9, 10x9, 15x14 and 18x16 setup for a long time and loved it. Very distinct pitch differences and a wide range from smallest to largest.

By tuning the 10" and 15" up or down I could make the drums suitable for just about any playing style, from latin or jazz stuff to progressive metal.
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Old 03-21-2017, 02:06 PM
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I don't like the 12 to 16 jump in toms.
9x13/16x16/16x18
8x10/9x12/12x14/14x16
See that I'm not the only one !
Worst being jumping from the 10 to the 16" ; when the 10 is in front. Way too high. When I play a "new standard" 10 12 16 ; I tend to "bend" my movements to avoid the 10".
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Old 03-21-2017, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Most versatile tom sizes, 4 tom setup.

I don't think it's a hard and fast rule as others appear to suggest.

For me, it's down to the fundamental of the shell. Thick shell = higher pitch, Thin shell = lower pitch

For example on my yamaha stage custom I go for 10,12,16

On my Sonor Prolite 10,12,14

14" Prolite floor toms are easily big enough for my application.

So I would go for shell sizes commensurate with the shell thickness
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:30 PM
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13 mounted and 16 and 18 floors. Pearl Reference Pure Nat. Maple
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Old 03-22-2017, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: Most versatile tom sizes, 4 tom setup.

I like the 122" small tom, a 176 inch mid tom, a 230" small floor tom and a 367" large floor tom.

To me they are my most versatile sizes.

I'm glad my drums are versatile. They can play any style of music...even without me! *sarcasm*

People, drums aren't versatile, it's the drummer that is versatile.

I'll keep saying it until it sticks.
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: Most versatile tom sizes, 4 tom setup.

Versatile might be the wrong word but accept it in the spirit of the question!
Thanks to all for your replies, especially ref. head thickness and tone.
I'm using 10x8, 12x9, 14x11, 16x14 and recently changed the batters to EC2 frosted from G2s ---- 'not sure they're an improvement. (Tama Starclassic birch).
Does anyone have opinions about Evans hydraulic heads?
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:44 PM
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Re: Hydraulic heads. Are used by people who want a processed or dead sounding drum with all fundamental and no overtones. No sound is bad or good, it just is. It's all what you like. Concert toms may benefit from a hydraulic head. If you've never heard them before it's the most controlled, deep sounding head you can get. At the expense of all liveliness. I consider them a one trick pony and not near responsive or crisp enough, but it's your ears not mine that matter if you are considering them.

It's good to know what kind of sound you are going for, but that takes a lot of experimentation with a lot of different heads and combinations of heads and tuning approaches. I found that regular 10 mil clear or coated heads deliver the most total frequencies. If you must muffle, all premuffled tom heads are muffled too much IMO. Better to start with an unmuffled 10 mil and go from there...if you must muffle.
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: Most versatile tom sizes, 4 tom setup.

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I like the 122" small tom, a 176 inch mid tom, a 230" small floor tom and a 367" large floor tom.

To me they are my most versatile sizes.

I'm glad my drums are versatile. They can play any style of music...even without me! *sarcasm*

People, drums aren't versatile, it's the drummer that is versatile.

I'll keep saying it until it sticks.
It stuck with me Larry, so that's one up your sleeve.

I play rock with a 20x14, 12x8 and 14x14 with a dunnett 2n brass 14x6.5, hats, crash and ride.

Beatles, Elvis, Mumford, Rage against the machine and Foo fighters, Muse, whatever we decide and I try to make it work.

No one ever complains. If we need louder, I play louder and/or mic the kit up.

I do sometimes get the urge for additional toms, but then I remember every additionnal piece brings additionnal handling.

One of my main concerns nowadays when unloading gear or eventual acquisitions is weight.

The lighter the better, the rest is out the door or is not invited in.

The Dunnett is the exception, damn it's heavy. But puuuuur-fect. Very versatile might I add ;-)
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Old 03-22-2017, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: Most versatile tom sizes, 4 tom setup.

Of course the most "versatile" is an electric drum-no matter size you can produce any pitch, any tone or any sound. I win what's my prize? So it's not size that counts but technology wins sorta like drum viagra.
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