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Old 03-10-2017, 08:05 AM
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Default Guru tom tree. It's done.

Well I done did it. I outfitted my Guru bass drum with a tom tree. I drilled zero holes in the shell. I didn't even widen any existing holes. I modded a Saturn 3 bass drum sliding tom mount. My welder did a really nice job IMO, but I told him to remove 2 & 3/8ths" of the rail... not from the middle. I miscalculated where the slide rail would sit. I was trying to cover the weld with the slide rail. That's the worst thing that happened. The weld part is closest to the throne, pretty much obscured by all the chrome of the tom tree. It's something no one will really see unless they get up close and look. It's purely cosmetic. On a scale of 1 to 10 it bothers me precisely zero point 1.

Other than that, I really could not be happier. Everything works beautifully. I did have to use a spacer on all 4 top tension rods going into the Saturn lugs so I could tighten the rods down all the way. I could get shorter rods but I probably won't because then I can use them if I decide to take it back to original. I'm pretty sure I'll never do that but you never know. This bass drum will be the real world guinea pig for Andy.

I have complete confidence in the strength of these shells, that's why I'm taking this "chance". I guarantee you these shells are plenty up to this task.

I can't even explain how jazzed I am about the thought of playing these for all my future gigs. I'd about died and gone to heaven at that thought.

So, if you feel like commenting, cheers or jeers, bring it on. It won't change anything, but I am interested
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Old 03-10-2017, 09:41 AM
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lovely, reminds me of the old sonor designer but much much less bulky.

I can see why you did it too, the only time I play 2 toms up is when I have a mount to the kick (ie Yamaha stage custom) but when I don't have a mount, I only play 1 up (Sonor Prolite)

Do you have the same difficulties in getting the 2nd tom in the right position without being attached to the kick?
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:16 AM
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Good work Larry! And you can go back to the original whenever you want. Love it!
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If it allows you to gig with the kit I think it's great. I'm not a fan of virgin kicks for gigging either (I know it's still technically a virgin kick but you know what I mean). That Mapex system is really slick but isn't that a lot of weight on those two skinny metal rods?
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Nice. But surely the extra weight of the mount and the toms will absolutely ruin the sound of the BD.
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Old 03-10-2017, 01:51 PM
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Very nice work........I like that you can go back to original so easily if you wanted.

Nice work.
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Looks good Larry! I'm glad this will make gigging these drums more doable for you. The combination of their sound and your playing is something the world needs to be hearing!
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Looks great Larry. Mapex got it so right with the Saturn III (I own one) I'm just amazed more companies didn't do this. It is great for guys who want non drilled drums yet want a tom tree. Great job.
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Nice work Sir. I love it when these drum mods work for the betterment of the drummer.
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lovely, reminds me of the old sonor designer but much much less bulky.

I can see why you did it too, the only time I play 2 toms up is when I have a mount to the kick (ie Yamaha stage custom) but when I don't have a mount, I only play 1 up (Sonor Prolite)

Do you have the same difficulties in getting the 2nd tom in the right position without being attached to the kick?
Not really. I had more trouble with wingnuts not being able to turn because they were too close to things. I always got the tom positions I needed easy enough. Flying toms off stands...it's the cymbals on each stand that complicate things for me. I don't like complicated. A tom tree is an essential piece of equipment for me as a gigging drummer.

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Good work Larry! And you can go back to the original whenever you want. Love it!
Thanks Matt. Yea, that was the original idea, non desecration. It makes me feel good.

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If it allows you to gig with the kit I think it's great. I'm not a fan of virgin kicks for gigging either (I know it's still technically a virgin kick but you know what I mean). That Mapex system is really slick but isn't that a lot of weight on those two skinny metal rods?
The Mapex system is sweet. Great design. The total extra weight on the bass drum is exactly 26 lbs. That's 13 lbs a rail. It would take hundreds, perhaps a thousand pounds of force to bend that rail. It's 3/8ths steel. No worries here.

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Nice. But surely the extra weight of the mount and the toms will absolutely ruin the sound of the BD.
This is the biggest impact. Yes the bass drum doesn't resonate as freely. I haven't yet messed with tuning the drum yet, I got it together late last night. It didn't ruin the sound. It altered it. Still, my ply shell bass drums with toms on top are plenty satisfying for me. I'm lacking nothing. A solid shell drum will still sound better than a ply drum, so if I'm happy with a tom tree on a ply shell, logic tells me I should be at least equally as happy with a tom tree on a solid shell. It's not a dealbreaker at all. I'll have to mess with the tuning today and I'll provide more detailed info after I mess with it. I'll get it sounding satisfying, count on it.

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Very nice work........I like that you can go back to original so easily if you wanted.

Nice work.
Thanks River. Yes I had to preserve the integrity. My welder did a great job. I can't even see the weld itself.

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Looks good Larry! I'm glad this will make gigging these drums more doable for you. The combination of their sound and your playing is something the world needs to be hearing!
I couldn't agree more lol. It's just a regular travesty to keep these drums sequestered away. I've always said if you have great drums use them out....provided there's a tom tree.

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Looks great Larry. Mapex got it so right with the Saturn III (I own one) I'm just amazed more companies didn't do this. It is great for guys who want non drilled drums yet want a tom tree. Great job.
Thanks Mr. Man of Steel :) The Saturn bass drum mounts were exactly what I was hoping to find. It's even better than Ludwigs stuff because it goes over 4 lugs. I was very fortunate that the Guru Tour lug holes were the same distance apart as the Mapex lugs. I so got lucky there, dodged a bullet. I was totally unaware of this tom tree system until Tommy_D brought it to my attention. Thank you Tommy.

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Oh man I feel like it's Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, the 4th of July, my birthday and Fathers Day all wrapped up in one. Everybody out of my way!

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Looking good Larry :)
(Said through clenched teeth?)

I accept full responsibility. I realize you didn't design the drums for a tom tree and the weight of 2 drums and a cymbal on it. I publicly release you from all responsibility. I'm so not worried, you'll see.

I can't believe I'm finally able to gig these drums with ease. No more PITA setups. I've always modded my drums to suit my needs. This is a need. My drums serve me, I don't serve them. It's a complete and utter waste having these drums in my studio where no one but me really appreciates them. They should be seen and especially heard. My ash steambent is my home kit, my wife kit. Yolanda is my girlfriend kit lol.

Having walnut Guru drums at home, but not gigging them....is like being filthy rich and choosing to live like a homeless person.
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That was very much a joke, Larry. Apologies.
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Beauty, LA! Is that a 24" kick?
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I am glad that worked out for you Larry, looks good, I always liked that Mapex bass drum mount. I just got home from hand surgery but I wanted to give a thumbs up on your tom tree.
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Looks really good Larry (professional)-you are one bold son of gun to drill holes in that beautiful virgin shell. You dirty dog-drilling a virgin. Does it affect the tone of the kick to any significant degree?
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The only thing I don't like about the last pic is the Starfire head. Mostly because there is a reflection of another Guru kit, and that makes me a little jealous.

Starfire head looks awesome btw.
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That was very much a joke, Larry. Apologies.
Ha ha I totally missed that. I thought you were just being yourself. It is true though. So the bass drum fundamental is unchanged. I played it at normal volume just a little while ago. It's the afterglow that is shortened and with not as good quality. But that's me listening to a bass drum in a quiet room. When the band kicks in, it shouldn't matter.

There is afterglow still, I just notice that it's not all it was before. The afterglow on my steambent ash bass drum is the really amazing one. Even in my crappy little studio.

The walnut afterglow is like an octave lower compared to the ash so it's not as prominent right from the get go. I did retain, as far as I can tell, all the fundamental after the mod....that's what the audience hears. My studio is not the best room to evaluate a drum in. My recordings and what I hear while playing in the rooms I play in are how I actually judge my drums. My little low ceiling-ed studio do not do these fine instruments justice, for real. They sound totally different in the rooms I play in.

If I had to play acoustic jazz in an intimate setting unmiced, I'd switch it back to factory specs :) After I learned how to play jazz of course :P

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Nope. 22 x 16. The 24's, as much as I dig the tone, it puts my toms up too high. 22 is all the bass drum I need anyway.

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I am glad that worked out for you Larry, looks good, I always liked that Mapex bass drum mount. I just got home from hand surgery but I wanted to give a thumbs up on your tom tree.
A metaphorical thumbs up to you too my injured friend.

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Looks really good Larry (professional)-you are one bold son of gun to drill holes in that beautiful virgin shell. You dirty dog-drilling a virgin. Does it affect the tone of the kick to any significant degree?
Yea Art, I went crazy with that drill. I was throwing the drum up in the air and having it land on the spinning drill bit, and drilling the holes like that. I figured that was the most precise way to do it. I'm really happy with the results too.

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The only thing I don't like about the last pic is the Starfire head. Mostly because there is a reflection of another Guru kit, and that makes me a little jealous.

Starfire head looks awesome btw.
Lol, pretty funny man. The Starfire is my look. I have them on all my favorite bass drums. I actually prefer the tone to any other resonant head because it's so crisp. It's my Goldilocks head. Plus it mesmerizes people, I catch them tripping out to it lol. It adds a visual component to my bass drum playing that just adds to the fun. Bo unwittingly introduced me to that head. He had a black oyster pearl Tama kit with the chrome Starfire and it plum knocked me out.

I feel so incredibly content now. Ahhhhhhh. Pure satisfaction.
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That looks great, Larry! Glad it all worked out in the end and that you didn't have to drill any new holes. Also, you can slide the toms forward and backwards to have ultimate flexibility in the setup. Your welded did a great job, BTW. You may want to put some paint over the bars, or at least some sort of clear coat over the welded area. Just the moisture in the air is going to make that area look like a rusty pile of poo in couple weeks.

I have to say, I really like the look of the new bling on top of the bass drum. I am a bit of a sucker for chrome, though. I know people like to dog Mapex, but they build really solid gear and this tom tree is no doubt a beast.

Did you end up putting in any internal support inside the bass drum, or did you leave it open?
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Something tells me Andy has developed a twitch since seeing this.

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I imagine it's kind of like seeing your offspring do a base jump or something. Yikes!

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That looks great, Larry! Glad it all worked out in the end and that you didn't have to drill any new holes. Also, you can slide the toms forward and backwards to have ultimate flexibility in the setup. Your welded did a great job, BTW. You may want to put some paint over the bars, or at least some sort of clear coat over the welded area. Just the moisture in the air is going to make that area look like a rusty pile of poo in couple weeks.

I have to say, I really like the look of the new bling on top of the bass drum. I am a bit of a sucker for chrome, though. I know people like to dog Mapex, but they build really solid gear and this tom tree is no doubt a beast.

Did you end up putting in any internal support inside the bass drum, or did you leave it open?
Good call on the clear coat. I have some clear enamel. No internal support. I really don't feel it needs it. When I play the toms, they naturally move a little bit in the rims mounts, so the toms are naturally moving, but the bass drum shell is Just. Not. Flexing. At. All. I get a rock solid feeling. The Mapex sliding tom tree assembly, the whole thing, is a joy to use. Total flexibility.

I've thought about this long and hard before deciding to go ahead with this mod and the force being introduced to the shell is so spread out...GREAT design on Mapex's part....plus those load locations are only 2" from the REALLY THICK, MILLED IN rerings, (not glued in)... plus the weight is being applied to the outside strong part of an arch...plus the fact that the shell withstood the initial shipping damage like a champ....from the weaker inside of the shell, with a very sharp impactor (the floor tom bracket wing nut) on a very small area...there's just no way in Creation that this shell is going to crack from 26 lbs of outside weight spread out over a square foot. It would have done so by me playing it already. I can tell you it's nowhere near the point of flexing let alone cracking.

There's no metal from this mod touching the shell, it's a thick hard plastic gasket transferring the load of only 6.5 lbs per location. The weight is pretty centered in the sliding bracket. I love how the whole thing just floats over the shell on the rails. John Goode are you listening? I didn't even have to touch my precious Guru script logo lol. I take my hat off to the design engineers at Mapex. And really, the load won't be on the shell but maybe 5 hours a week... PLUS the relative ease of repairing these shells....should something happen (it won't)...it's so far beyond reasonable doubt in my mind. No guts no glory, right?

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I get it Ands. Concerned parent. Have faith brother. Everything is butterflies and rainbows now. I'm happy now. Worse possible case scenario you get an order for another thicker bass drum lol.

I MUCH prefer the look, it's more compact to me. It appeals to my sense of efficiency. Like Tommy, I like the bling of chrome too. That's what was missing in those drums P.Pete was asking if we liked or not. We didn't. No bling, see?

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It's not too late to drill it for a Yamaha mount with the triple hole receiver,
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Oh "I was throwing the drum up in the air and having it land on the spinning drill bit, and drilling the holes like that. " I could tell immediately that's how you did to get it so precise.That Larry flare. It really does make it all more ergonomic. Reminds me of my Pearl RT POD that has two toms and cymbal stand on one tree-I always like the efficiency of such a set up. Looks really solid too-no squeaks or wiggles?
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I get it Ands. Concerned parent. Have faith brother. Everything is butterflies and rainbows now. I'm happy now. Worse possible case scenario you get an order for another thicker bass drum lol.
Nice job Larry. I like it.

No Larry, Andy's not too worried about your drum kit.
He's worried that me and others will be asking him to build Guru kits with bass drum mounted rack toms....................


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No Larry, Andy's not too worried about your drum kit.
He's worried that me and others will be asking him to build Guru kits with bass drum mounted rack toms....................


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It's not too late to drill it for a Yamaha mount with the triple hole receiver,
like they're intended to be. LOL

But they're your drums, and if you have them how you like it, that's what counts.
I have a dogbone for the 3rd hole.

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Oh "I was throwing the drum up in the air and having it land on the spinning drill bit, and drilling the holes like that. " I could tell immediately that's how you did to get it so precise.That Larry flare. It really does make it all more ergonomic. Reminds me of my Pearl RT POD that has two toms and cymbal stand on one tree-I always like the efficiency of such a set up. Looks really solid too-no squeaks or wiggles?
No squeaks, no wiggles. It's really better than I had hoped. It puts my toms in the friggin exact perfect position.

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Nice job Larry. I like it.

No Larry, Andy's not too worried about your drum kit.
He's worried that me and others will be asking him to build Guru kits with bass drum mounted rack toms....................


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If a tom tree held me back from using it as a gig set, I think others will feel that way too. It's one answer to a major hold back for me. I think it can only be good for Andy's business, as a way to make my Gurus fast setup friendly.

I'm removing as much extra metal (weight) as I can from this tom tree. I'm shortening the extra length of tubes that I don't use and I sawed the extra length of my dogbone cymbal arm. Every little bits helps, even though there is absolutely no need for this. Each load bearing lug spans 3 segments. I am loving the look too. I never realized how much I prefer the look of a tom tree over flying toms off stands. But I definitely do. I can't believe it worked so well! I' really could not be more pleased with the results. This is a major day for me. Stars aligned, it's that important. Now I can really show her off, improve the sound of my band, blow everyone away with the unique-ness and the look of this kit....and for myself, being in tone heaven.
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Oh man you're killing me ha ha. Yolanda Gurex. I think we're done there, thanks for providing her last name. I'm telling you wildbill, this is the friggin best mod I ever did. It looks...Ah-friggin mazing to me. I'm pretty sure it's the first Guru set with a tom tree. I will be able to set these up in 20 minutes just like my PDP set.


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Dude. In addition to the 26 additional pounds on the shell, I am pushing in the center of the shell with both of my hands...and I can barely make the shell move. I don't have near the strength to break it. I bet you I could stand on it, of course I won't. But I think I could. I have to be pushing conservatively 30 lbs of additional pressure. Your shells can take it, and then some. The sound is basically 98% of what it was, which is 98% of amazing.

I'm guessing you are concerned about long term vibration. I played the toms hard with one hand, and I put my other hand on the shell to see if I could detect any vibration. I detected not one iota of vibration on the bass drum shell. The toms were flopping around slightly too, as they do in RIMS mounts. The load bearing lugs are at the very strongest part of the shell.

I would even encourage you to design an adjustable-width floating rail mount that accepts an already available tom tree. That uses the lug holes of course. If you make that an option to your Tour bass drums, my guess is it would be a popular option.

I'm gonna say I got the most badass set of gig drums now on the East Coast, so watch out!
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Super psyched it worked out so well for you Larry and that it hasn't greatly changed or diminished the incredible Guru sound. Looking forward to your first gig review with it.


Hey Andy, do I sense a Guru / Mapex collaboration in the future???







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I like how you think outside the box, Larry. I have always preferred tom trees too. I didn't even know this option existed. There's a lot that I don't know.
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Super psyched it worked out so well for you Larry and that it hasn't greatly changed or diminished the incredible Guru sound. Looking forward to your first gig review with it.


Hey Andy, do I sense a Guru / Mapex collaboration in the future???

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So Andy is Zeus now? Lol. OMG We need Henri to make one of his classic visuals. He would do a bang up job depicting Andy as Zeus. Hey where is that Henri guy anyway?

Thanks man. It's funny, I can't believe how right this feels. I can't believe that this is making me as happy as it is. I know that people are the real source of happiness, but I have to say, this comes pretty fn close.


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There's a box?

I have to send a big thanks out to Guru Drums, for building a strong shell that allows me to do this, and I have to thank Tommy_D for leading me to the awesome Saturn tom tree mounts. My base happiness quotient (BHQ) is greatly elevated now.
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Larry, that is a nice clean job. It looks factory made and not hacked together. I hope you have a great time with it.

Don't worry Andy, I won't do that to my set of Gurus! My bass drum doesn't even have any holes in it so I would have to go nuts and actually drill into the shell, which is not happening.

But bass drum note length and resonance has always been overrated in a live rock setting, anyway. Especially in a mic'ed situation. I can't see this affecting anything negatively in the real world of bar and club gigging.
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Oh man you're killing me ha ha. Yolanda Gurex. I think we're done there, thanks for providing her last name. I'm telling you wildbill, this is the friggin best mod I ever did. It looks...Ah-friggin mazing to me. I'm pretty sure it's the first Guru set with a tom tree. I will be able to set these up in 20 minutes just like my PDP set.

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Ya - just yankin' your chain. If I were gigging, I'd want bass drum mounted toms too.

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Well enough of the jibber jabber and pics- I want audio-and to hear those sweet walnuts again. So let's see your ergonomic addition n action-pleeeaaaazzzzzzeeeee.
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A week from right now I will have them set up at a bar in NJ to audition the Gurex tom tree.

Yolanda has seen abut a 1/2 dozen gigs, but never with a tom tree.

Tonight I'm using my little bop kit for a gig in Center City Phila. Too many steps for my regular kit.
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Agreed Jeff. Studio's a different matter, but of course, you can do anything you like in there, so what do I know :(


Guys, for the record, no bolts of lightening - Larry's modification doesn't bother me, I'm very pleased for him. These instruments are designed to be worked, not just looked at & tinkered with. What does bother me however, is the tag of Gurex = way too close to the branding of a certain well known contraceptive accessory :(
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Out of respect for Andy, and the real Yolanda, maybe it wasn't such a good idea. Andy puts in a ton of sweat and aggravation and hard work, blood, tears, anxiety, gray hairs, agita, money, and a whole lot more that I can't even imagine. He's the hardest working man I know, so out of respect, well you know. She's just Yolanda. Like Cher, Pink, Rihanna and all the rest, because he's the man, we'll just forget this ever happened.
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I'm gonna say I got the most badass set of gig drums now on the East Coast, so watch out![/QUOTE]

I'm prepare to contest this claim Larry! (pic). When I initially started to read your post, I assumed you had drilled into the shell to affix a mounting plate for the tom tree. I was halfway out the door to PA to knock some sense into you, hoping to save Andy the airfare. Of course you went for a more elegant solution. I love the convenience of mounted toms (sadly all six of my kicks are virgins) so I get it. I wouldn't have pushed things with the cymbal though. Bravo!
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I'm prepare to contest this claim Larry! (pic). When I initially started to read your post, I assumed you had drilled into the shell to affix a mounting plate for the tom tree. I was halfway out the door to PA to knock some sense into you, hoping to save Andy the airfare. Of course you went for a more elegant solution. I love the convenience of mounted toms (sadly all six of my kicks are virgins) so I get it. I wouldn't have pushed things with the cymbal though. Bravo!
Fine. Drumsolos from 10 paces at dawn :)

Your drums are looking great Rich. Darkening up nicely. But your bass drum is ported, you don't have wood hoops, you're missing toms, and there's no bling. So are you sure you want to tangle with this? Well Do you? Punk? :)

It's a good thing Mapex made this system (200 USD) because I would have drilled it if there was no other way. I'm careless like that. But first I wanted to explore alternative options and this solution was exactly what I was hoping to find. I cut off all the extra down tubes you see in the original pics. It looks much more cleaned up now. I like it even more. And it took off a pound. I inserted the "before" pic for your consideration.
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