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Old 08-01-2016, 02:38 AM
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Mine over the years- aside from a semester of classical percussion at college and the U.S. Armed forces school of music- has been a hodge podge of different things I've picked up and learned over the years.
Which would also most likely be the source of my still missing out on a lot of the 'bigger picture" of the drumming world and still feeling ignorant towards a lot of styles. Especially since the internet came along way after I started.
What's been you're drumming/musical education?
Formal, informal, some lessons, self taught etc?
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Old 08-01-2016, 02:46 AM
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Five years of Jr/Senior high school band and orchestra. Back when snare heads were calf.
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Old 08-01-2016, 03:37 AM
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Did the school thing. Played jazz in college, where I also played in pick up groups for musicals, choirs, etc.,...studied privately for a few years with a local teacher, then did a few lessons with Ed Shaughnessy, picked the brains of Joey Heredia. I did drum corps from 1982 to 84, which really honed my right-handed rudimental chops. Then I taught myself, and right around 1986 is when I started working at Disney and just by hanging out with world-class musicians, you tend to pick up a lot of stuff.

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Old 08-01-2016, 05:33 AM
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When I started in the mid 60's I had lessons for 12 months or so. Then I taught myself by listening to records, breaking down and practicing what I heard and watching and speaking with all the drummers I could- which wasn't many, as I lived in a small country town. When I came back to drumming a couple of years ago after the 40 yr layoff I found this forum. This has essentially been my education/development/learning since.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:25 AM
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Self taught. Started listening to records, playing on pots and pans in the living room. As with most in the 60s learned by listening and came up with things I liked through happy mistakes. Pop/Rock was our rebellion and escape, so we made it up as we went along. I still learn mainly by listening and trying to make something slightly different to make it my own.
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Old 08-01-2016, 03:32 PM
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Band, jazz band and orchestra in school from '79-85, private lessons off and on from '79-'85, did drum corps from '81-'86, classical percussion studies, jazz, and marching band at U of Oregon from '85-'88, jazz studies at USC '88-'89, gigs since '85, intensive study on my own from ~'83-present.
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Old 08-01-2016, 04:24 PM
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Private Lessons with:

Tony Williams
Billy Hart
Jeff Watts
Mark Mondesir
Jeff Herschfield
John Riley
Kenny Clare
Terry Clarke
Joel Rothman
Max Abrams (Simon Phillips´ teacher)


and SEVERAL others.

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Started drumming at 28. A bunch of co-workers at the time started a band and needed a drummer.

At the time I played guitar but a guitarist was not needed.

My younger brother played the drums and I figured if he could do it I could do it.

Joined the band and took private lessons simultaneously(for about a year). The band setting really helped with my lessons and brought everything together.
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Old 08-01-2016, 05:31 PM
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Cool to see people’s travels up to this point...

I lucked out with an excellent local teacher in jr. high and high school. Afterwards moved to NYC and studied with Tommy Campbell, Mike Clark, Kenwood Dennard, Marvin Smitty Smith, Dom Famularo, David Garibaldi and Billy Ward...
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Old 08-01-2016, 05:37 PM
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Started off with woodwinds.

Played drums from 7th grade on. Taught by mostly 2 kids who were snare drummers extraordinaire. One went on to the Blue Devils.

Self taught on drum set listening to records.

Took lessons from Joe of the now defunt West Coast Drums.

Currently am a percussion performance major and study with a modern drummer educator whos in the Vic Firth camp.

Also study with a young guy whos a R&B and hip hop beast.
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Old 08-01-2016, 05:53 PM
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Started formal drum and marimba lessons at age 5. Did that for a couple years. Then took a year off and took lessons from a Joe Morrello student for about 4 years. Did grade school and middle school band and orchestra, drum and bugle corp, and a sub for the junior philharmonic. Played in a few garage type bands and played out a bit in a top 40 lounge band and then a harder rock cover band into my early 20s. Took 3 decades off and now playing in a classic rock cover band and a blues rock band. Enjoying playing out again!
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Old 08-01-2016, 05:55 PM
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Sod all. Learn't to play on pots & pans as a kid playing along to records. Completely self taught & can play all styles. :) Made quite a successful career out of it as well.
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Old 08-01-2016, 06:21 PM
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Dang some impressive musical education by so many-awesome. Embarrassed and sadly no drumming education-self taught, but I did take piano lessons and played alto sax in band for a bit. Now as far as other education endeavors I spent an inordinate amount of time attending numerous colleges becoming an educated idiot from 1973-1992 (no not continuously) but no music degrees sadly.
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Grew up with Vince Colaiuta and during my high school years was taught by him as he learned.

Marched with Royal Crusaders (DCI top 10) drum and bugle corps and received drum instruction from Mike Kumer.

Set instruction from Kurt Wortman (Gary Peacock,Rubisa Patrol,Jean Luc Ponty).

Spent a semester studying experimental percussion at UCSD with Jean Charles Francois and Darryl Pratt .

Semester at Cal State Hayward studying percussion with Jack van Geem from the San Fran Symphony and Jerry Neff from Oakland ballet.
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Old 08-01-2016, 07:36 PM
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Absolutely no musical education at all growing up. I was an athletic kid. At 37 I decided to learn how to play drums and took lessons for a few months. Due to getting pregnant I had to quit and I was finally able to pick back up almost a year ago and I've come along way on my own. I don't get to practice a lot due to a small child, but I do what I can.
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In the pub, usually drunk.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:10 PM
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"In the pub, usually drunk." Hey that's a great answer I think I ended up with a PhD in that-so I'm more educated than I thought lol.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:30 PM
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My music education is on guitar.

Drumming is a combination of owning the 300 most popular books and once in a while I hire someone, a university professor or known specialist, for one or two days of lessons.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:36 PM
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I started self-taught, but had musical education on other instruments (primarily classical guitar) at the same time, which helped me to understand the role of instruments and the relationship between drummers and other musicians. Later I took some lessons with a german pro-drummer, then continued my self-teaching again. If I get stuck again with something that I need, I'll go to a good teacher again.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:16 PM
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I learned to read music by playing Trombone in grade school. Started drumming with no formal education around 12 years old. Played 4th Bass Drum in High School drum line for about 3 month until I had to move away.

I am self-taught on the drum set and have been playing them almost 35 years now. I am also self-taught on the guitar too.
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Old 08-02-2016, 01:04 AM
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Started off on wind instruments in school, picked up bass, and then finally drums. I took about six months of lessons as a brand new beginner and have mostly relied on the school band foundation and studying from videos, books and (now) online. And practice, practice! Thirty years later I think I'm doing pretty well, and reading gets me (and keeps me in) gigs.
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Old 08-02-2016, 01:45 AM
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Played in primary school for 2 years, then discovered punk at age 11 and was self taught from then until embarking on jazz drumming lessons 4 years ago.
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I started with piano at age 5, played trumpet in elementary school, and then started taking guitar lessons. I had a friend in high school whose father was a musician, and had a well equipped studio at his house---amps, guitars, basses, mics, PA, everything we needed---including DRUMS! Needless to say his house was where all of our friends wanted to hang out. I had been taking guitar lessons for about 6 years at the time, but nobody wanted to be the drummer so I took over, and really enjoyed it (I am sure I sucked) Fast forward through 30 years raising a family brings me to 5 years ago when I bought my first kit. I have been learning from online lessons. I have a blast playing, and don't expect anything more, but at least we have an emergency drummer for jam night!
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Old 08-02-2016, 04:56 AM
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Private Instruction:
Pre-school Ear Training and General Music: Age 4-5 (about a year)
Piano Lessons (group and private): Age 5-12 (7 years)
Rudimental Drum Lessons: Age 12 (6 months)
Jazz Drum Lessons: Age 18-19 (8 months)
Funk Drum Lessons: Age 24-25 (11 months)
Vocal Lessons: Age 25-26 (10 months)

School Bands:
Grade School Concert Band (trombone): Age 10-12 (2 years)
Middle School Concert Band (Percussion): Age 12-14 (2 years)
Middle School Jazz Band (Trombone first year, drumset second): Age 12-14 (2 years)
Middle School Marching Band (tenors/quints): Age 13-14
High School Concert Band (Percussion): Age 14-17 (3 years)
High School Marching Band (bass/snare/tenors): Age 14-17 (3 years)
High School Jazz Band (drumset): Age 15-18 (3 years)
College Concert Band (percussion): Age 18-20 (2 years)
College Jazz Band (drumset): Age 18-19 (1 year)
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Old 08-02-2016, 05:39 AM
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I took private lessons from maybe 12-14 years old. Played snare/drum set in the orchestra, concert band, and jazz band at school, etc. Also learned a lot by playing along with my favorite records (for hours a day it seemed)
In high school and college I mainly studied ice hockey, lol. After that I just started playing in rock bands and have been playing all over the world since. Whenever I'm in the DFW area I'll catch a lesson with Matt Thompson from King Diamond.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:32 AM
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Came to drums late- about 5 years ago.
Taken lessons with a few different people.

Before that I had 25 years as a pro guitarist/engineer.
Did music at school, learned theory, went to a GIT-style music school later on.

Having one instrument down before tackling drums but what most helpful was some producing/engineering experience.
If you know what types of sound you want or are expected then it is a matter of finding a path to finding those sounds.
It becomes more of a motor skills game, than trying to find your musical identity at the same time as learning the motor skills.

I'm think that being a guitarist has made me a better drummer and definitely that my guitar playing has improved as a result of me also playing drums.
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Old 08-02-2016, 11:07 PM
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Started in 5th grade taking snare drum lessons at the elementary school. Played in the Salvation Army band on and off till High school. One year of high school band (marching and concert bands),

On drumset I took about ten lessons from Joe Santoro when I lived in San Jose.
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:38 AM
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Self taught (mostly before youtube was a thing). Needless to say, I eventually had to dedicate precious practice time to correcting bad habits.
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self taught after 10 lessons. Pre-YouTube, listened to lots of music, concerts, danced a lot(just regular dancing, nothing special but forced to listen to the music). Used some of "The Art of Drumming" by J.Burns Moore, learned some notation from my wife, a piano player, and MuseScore.
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Played trumpet from middle school to high school, ditched that and picked up a stencil kit from the local pawn shop. Self taught from that point (age 18 to 41).

When I started playing gigs I came to realize my technique was g-a-r-b-a-g-e

Lessons with a terrific teacher for the last 3.5 years, trying to undo 23 years of bad habits. This, folks, is the hard way
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Old 08-05-2016, 05:03 AM
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Self taught. Mostly playing along with records. My mom got me a half dozen lessons when I was in high school, but I never did the required practice so I gave up on them.
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Hi. My name is Anon and I am a garage drummer, about ten years clean, although I still sometimes lapse. I lived a lie for years, pretending that I didn't have a garage rock drumming problem. I checked into drum lessons a couple of times but they kicked me out. Too unruly, they said. Too undisciplined. Too many "bad habits". Will never amount to anything.

But over the years my garage inclinations caught up with me and I simply had to admit it. Coming out to friends was difficult. Most couldn't believe it until they saw the evidence - ghost websites, lame Soundclouds, bags of random percussions from garage sales and cheapo music stores, cowbells, a rain stick. A yoga mat dampening the bass drum, purse on the snare.

Still there is hope. Today I sometimes switch on the metronome and will occasionally practice patterns for longer than 30 seconds. It's a short way to the bottom if you want a sausage roll ....
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, then did a few lessons with Ed Shaughnessy, picked the brains of Joey Heredia. I did drum corps from 1982 to 84, which really honed my right-handed rudimental chops. Then I taught myself, and right around 1986 is when I started working at Disney....
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Band, jazz band and orchestra in school from '79-85, private lessons off and on from '79-'85, did drum corps from '81-'86, classical percussion studies, jazz, and marching band at U of Oregon from '85-'88, jazz studies at USC '88-'89, gigs since '85, intensive study on my own from ~'83-present.
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Private Lessons with:

Tony Williams
Billy Hart
Jeff Watts
Mark Mondesir
Jeff Herschfield
John Riley
Kenny Clare
Terry Clarke
Joel Rothman
Max Abrams (Simon Phillips´ teacher)


and SEVERAL others.
Ok. Well. Having seen some of the Bona Fides on display here, I'm thinking back to all the lame opinions I've offered in this forum with horror.


"Surely I spoke of things I did not understand, things too wonderful for me to know. Therefore I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes.”


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Snare lessons and percussion 5th through 12th grade. Grade school through HS concert and pep band.

Two years drill team / drum corps on snare drum.

Self taught on set before internet. Listen(ed) to a lot of music, many genres - blues, rock, jazz, R&B, fusion, pop, classic rock - apply meaningful pad and pillow practice sessions and patient application on set listening with headphones. This practice continues today.
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Began my drumming venture at age 9, playing for a Pipe and Drum Corp, which proved to be one of the best experiences for a young kid starting out. One of the old-timers took me under his wing and taught me rudiments. Best thing that happened to me.

Moved on to Concert and Stage Band in Junior High, and spent many years in-between jamming and playing with bands.

Today I'm strictly a drum-aficionado/enthusiast.
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Practice pad and sticks in 1979 at age 9, drum & bugle corps at Carson Long Military Academy from 1983-85 at ages 13-15, Ska band in 1993, drum lessons to learn to read drum chart in 1995 at 25, Jazz quartet in 1998 at 28 (learned so much during those 3 years). Finally stand up playing with the rockabilly band to present day.

My biggest achievement is the fact that I never stopped playing. If I was bandless, I played to music every day. Playing to different artists can teach you things instructors never will.
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1966: Started out by having a special seat behind the drummer of my uncle's band. Would go outside when they were on break and play trash cans with twigs. At around 4.5 years old, joined my uncle's band on stage, playing a cowbell for a few songs. Wasn't even on a microphone, but didn't care.

Grade school students had to buy their own drums, so started with trumpet under the direction of Gary Hoover. Found a way to get a cheap snare drum by mid-grade school, so started snare drum studies with John W. McMahan in Anderson, Indiana.

In junior high, got asked by the band director, Greg R. Scott, to join the drum line, since most of the line was graduating. Ended up being only snare drummer for the first few years. During junior high and high school, took lessons with Richard Paul at the Paul Mueller studios in Indianapolis.

Went to college wanting to study Percussion Arts. Continued studies under Richard Paul. Music program wasn't that solid, from my perspective, so I left after two years. Given the issues I was experiencing, as well as considering my goals, it was the right thing to do.

Moved to LA in 1986 and enlisted in the school of hard knocks. Since then, I will take informal lessons here and there with various people. The last lessons I took in my adult years were with Chad Wackerman.

Still learning, wherever and whenever I can.
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53 years of self taught enjoyment. My eyes and ears are my learning tools.
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Sporadic private lessons starting around age 8, intertwined with a lot of playing along with records. Luckily, my elementary school had a good music program so I was also learning the basics of music theory.

Went to a performing arts high school where I continued studying theory and played in a small jazz combo there.

Went to the New School Jazz program for my BFA. Worthless as a degree, but there were some great teachers there: Horace Arnold got me on the right track because I really didn't know crap about playing jazz at the time. Other highlight teachers of mine there were Andrew Cyrille, Charli Persip, and most importantly Michael Carvin, who really took me up a couple levels in our limited yet intense time together.

I don't think I've taken any lessons since graduating in 97, but have been playing professionally ever since then and learning little things here and there from drummer friends, non-drummer friends, and the occasional embarrassment of having an unsatisfactory performance captured so I can review it at a later time.
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Wanted a drum set as a kid. Never got it.

Played at Octopad as my drums for about a year when 18 years old. When I was about 20, I sold some family land and bought a drum set. That was 23 years ago. Still playing. The land wouldn't be worth anything now. It was a good trade-off.

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