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Old 11-29-2015, 04:24 PM
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Default Anybody here watching/bidding on the Ringo Starr auction?

Lotsa neat stuff on the Julien's live auction of Ringo & Barbara's stuff. I saw where the iconic bass drum head from The Beatles' first Ed Sullivan appearance sold for over two million dollars!
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:31 PM
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I browsed through all the items this morning, lots of neat items. Clothes, jewelry, sales awards, and of course drums.

I'm wondering if they'll get $20K for the Carl Palmer stainless drum kit.

Edit: he's 5'6", no way that stuff will fit haha

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Old 12-01-2015, 02:42 PM
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Heading back out to L.A. now for the sale. I have my eye on a couple of things, so if the bidding is reasonable, I'll likely come home with something.......Russ
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Lotsa neat stuff on the Julien's live auction of Ringo & Barbara's stuff. I saw where the iconic bass drum head from The Beatles' first Ed Sullivan appearance sold for over two million dollars!
Wait, I thought that was at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame museum! I saw it there! Unless it was on loan or something.
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Old 12-01-2015, 06:26 PM
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Lotsa neat stuff on the Julien's live auction of Ringo & Barbara's stuff. I saw where the iconic bass drum head from The Beatles' first Ed Sullivan appearance sold for over two million dollars!
Wow!
I'll guess the drum set will sell even higher!
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Old 12-02-2015, 01:50 AM
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Yeah, I've been following this for a while. I've bid online on a few things, and in some cases I've already been outbid. I think some of this stuff is going to go huge. I'd love to hear if you win anything.
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Here's the auction catalog site

http://www.juliensauctions.com/image...arr/index.html
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Old 12-03-2015, 06:28 PM
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I hadn't even looked at anything until a friend sent a link to something, so I registered and bid on it! Will let you know if I win. BTW, there's a pretty hefty fee set on all items won, 25% on everything up to $200,000! The good news is, it's only 20% above $200,000 - what a deal!

If you guys have been paying attention to some of my posts, you can probably guess what I bid on. :)

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Old 12-03-2015, 06:40 PM
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I hadn't even looked at anything until a friend sent a link to something, so I registered and bid on it! Will let you know if I win. BTW, there's a pretty hefty fee set on all items won, 25% on everything up to $200,000! The good news is, it's only 20% above $200,000 - what a deal!

If you guys have been paying attention to some of my posts, you can probably guess what I bid on. :)

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Man.. good luck.. i am a ringo nut and wish i could bid on anything there :)

P.S. thanks to whoever posted this.. i had forgotten about it..
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1367 lots.. and 3 days long.. ill need a reminder in a few days now:)
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BTW, there's a pretty hefty fee set on all items won, 25% on everything up to $200,000! The good news is, it's only 20% above $200,000 - what a deal!

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Wait a sec... The buyer has to pay a 20-25% fee on top of what the auction ended at?
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Old 12-03-2015, 10:53 PM
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Wait a sec... The buyer has to pay a 20-25% fee on top of what the auction ended at?
Surely not?

In any other auction I've been privy to, the seller has to stump up the agent fees. I'd be genuinely staggered if this was any different.
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Old 12-03-2015, 11:04 PM
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Their terms specify: "A buyer's premium will be added to the successful bid price and is payable by the purchaser as part of the total purchase price. I acknowledge and agree that a 25% Buyer’s Premium will be added to the hammer price on each individual lot with a hammer price of $0 to $200,000, on which I am the successful bidder. I further acknowledge and agree that for each individual lot sold for a hammer price above $200,000, on which I am the successful bidder, a Buyer's Premium of 25% will be added to the hammer price up to $200,000 and an additional Buyer's Premium of 20% will be added to any amount above $200,000. By way of example, on a lot with a hammer price of $225,000, a Buyer's Premium of 25% will be added to the hammer price up to $200,000, for an amount of $50,000, and a Buyer's Premium of 20% will be added to the remainder of the hammer price of $25,000, for an amount of $5,000. Thus, the total Buyer's Premium of $55,000 will be added to the hammer price of $225,000."

It gets worse: "In addition, there will be an additional 3% buyer's premium charged for any lots won online."

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If I win that thing, it's gonna cost a lot of pretty pennies!

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Old 12-03-2015, 11:09 PM
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Their terms specify: ......................
Wow!!!

Consider me genuinely staggered then.

What an absolute gyp.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:24 AM
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I hadn't even looked at anything until a friend sent a link to something, so I registered and bid on it! Will let you know if I win. BTW, there's a pretty hefty fee set on all items won, 25% on everything up to $200,000! The good news is, it's only 20% above $200,000 - what a deal!

If you guys have been paying attention to some of my posts, you can probably guess what I bid on. :)

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Can you tell us what you bid on? I'm not privy to that conversation.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:52 AM
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Their terms specify: "A buyer's premium will be added to the successful bid price and is payable by the purchaser as part of the total purchase price. I acknowledge and agree that a 25% Buyer’s Premium will be added to the hammer price on each individual lot with a hammer price of $0 to $200,000, on which I am the successful bidder. I further acknowledge and agree that for each individual lot sold for a hammer price above $200,000, on which I am the successful bidder, a Buyer's Premium of 25% will be added to the hammer price up to $200,000 and an additional Buyer's Premium of 20% will be added to any amount above $200,000. By way of example, on a lot with a hammer price of $225,000, a Buyer's Premium of 25% will be added to the hammer price up to $200,000, for an amount of $50,000, and a Buyer's Premium of 20% will be added to the remainder of the hammer price of $25,000, for an amount of $5,000. Thus, the total Buyer's Premium of $55,000 will be added to the hammer price of $225,000."

It gets worse: "In addition, there will be an additional 3% buyer's premium charged for any lots won online."

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If I win that thing, it's gonna cost a lot of pretty pennies!

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I wonder if that is common practice with auctions like this or if it was something that Ringo worked in to the deal to have Julien's be the auction house for his stuff.

Either way, I believe its total crap and a big turn off to bidding on anything.

If the "hammer price" of that Ed Sullivan bass drum head was $2M, the "Buyer's Premium" was $410k. If the purchaser purchased online, they were charged an additional $60k on top of that making the total price of that drum head $2.47M. Huge waste of money, IMO.
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Well.. you know the fees to start with.. so you big accordingly.. And the kind of person bidding on those items doesn't care about 400k :) I saw a few things today i would have liked.. nothing beatle related.. just nice items..

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I wonder if that is common practice with auctions like this or if it was something that Ringo worked in to the deal to have Julien's be the auction house for his stuff.

Either way, I believe its total crap and a big turn off to bidding on anything.

If the "hammer price" of that Ed Sullivan bass drum head was $2M, the "Buyer's Premium" was $410k. If the purchaser purchased online, they were charged an additional $60k on top of that making the total price of that drum head $2.47M. Huge waste of money, IMO.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:58 AM
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BTW.. in higher end auctions a buyers premium is normal.. BUT.. 25% is really insane. you normally see 15%..

Kind of hope at the end they will announce it all goes to charity or something...
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Well.. you know the fees to start with.. so you big accordingly.. And the kind of person bidding on those items doesn't care about 400k :) I saw a few things today i would have liked.. nothing beatle related.. just nice items..
I work with people who spend $2M building a house. If we threw a bill of $470K at them they would file a lawsuit against us. They complain about our $100K design fee already. That's only 5% total cost of construction. Try finding any non-basement architect who will design your house for 5%. It ain't happening. So, they most certainly care about the $400K.
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If I win that thing, it's gonna cost a lot of pretty pennies!

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I'm guessing one of his kits, or his snare.
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Old 12-04-2015, 01:52 AM
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Kind of hope at the end they will announce it all goes to charity or something...
I think the deal is that the charity donation comes off the hammer price, so this is just Julien's making money to handle the promotion and web listings, which they've done very well. Should they be getting 20%, or 25%+20% of that? For 10% I'd have been happy to run it (into the ground!)

So far, I haven't been outbid, but the auction's far from over.

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Old 12-04-2015, 01:24 PM
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I think the deal is that the charity donation comes off the hammer price, so this is just Julien's making money to handle the promotion and web listings, which they've done very well. Should they be getting 20%, or 25%+20% of that? For 10% I'd have been happy to run it (into the ground!)

So far, I haven't been outbid, but the auction's far from over.

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Cool... hope to see you get his kit :)
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Old 12-04-2015, 03:37 PM
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Yeah, I think that's right, and I'm sure it was a ton of work to organize all of this stuff into lots with descriptions and so on. This will raise a fortune for charity.

Yesterday was mostly art, home decoration, furniture, and jewelry. The biggest number by far was $180k for Patek Philippe watch. For today, they still have to get through more furniture and home decoration before they get to the good stuff.

Most of my bids have been outbid, but I'm still live on a couple of items. Hope I'm not bidding against you, Bermuda.
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Old 12-04-2015, 04:20 PM
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Eh, lost the bidding overnight, it was on the Blaemire concert toms. :) A modest bid, I would have been really surprised if I won, but ya never know... You can't win if you don't play!
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Old 12-04-2015, 04:35 PM
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Does anyone have further information on the Premier Mahogany Duroplastic kit? All I know is that it probably is not Ringo's original kit he played before going Ludwig. But I've read that the auction company has no information as to how or when Ringo acquired the kit or it's age, etc?
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Looks like his career items start at 2pm PST today.. should be interesting.. alot of the stuff yesterday went cheaper than i would have thought.. and some stuff went insanely high.. like a star shaped blue satin pillow.. went for around $500.. and looked like something you could make in a hour.. just wtf :)
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"Anybody here watching/bidding on the Ringo Starr auction?"


I wasn't until you brought it up. Kind of mind-boggling.

http://www.julienslive.com/view-auct...1&sort=5&dir=1
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man this is starting to get crazy... so jealous of some of the stuff i can't have here:)
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I thoroughly perused the catalog. I liked the bongos with the broken head and some of the suits and shirts and item 898.

The prices on the kits seem really low. Are those opening bids?
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Old 12-05-2015, 02:58 AM
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RINGO STARR #1 LUDWIG DRUM KIT

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Bought by Jim Irsay, owner of the NFL's Indianapolis Colts.
He also bought the Sullivan show bd head last month.
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Great to see such an iconic drumset going for such huge sum of money!
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Wow, I didn't know it was the same guy who bought the iconic drumhead. Same guy, same price. I was watching it live online. Amazing.
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I actually thought the kit would go for double that...
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He also bought Les Paul's "Tech's" original Black Beauty that Les Paul finally gave to him the last time he went over it and gave the guitar a tune and such. He paid about $600,000 for that Les Paul. I honestly thought it would go much higher.

In this case, I think a single drum head was over valued, and the set probably undervalued.


20-25% over auction price is ridiculous. 10% max, IMO!
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I actually thought the kit would go for double that...
Well, considering the same guy bought the head and drum set, including auction fees the whole kit went for ~$5M dollars (US). Pretty insane.
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Well, considering the same guy bought the head and drum set, including auction fees the whole kit went for ~$5M dollars (US). Pretty insane.
All relative.. i had honestly thought that someone like gates or balmer would pony up 5m+ it's not like there will be another british invasion.. or another drum kit that changed music :)
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Flicking through that catalogue, it's clear that Ringo has awful taste in clothes. I hope people don't think Scousers dress like that.
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All relative.. i had honestly thought that someone like gates or balmer would pony up 5m+ it's not like there will be another british invasion.. or another drum kit that changed music :)
Bill Gates does much smarter things with his money than buy drumsets.
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While I don't know much about Bill Gates personal life at all, does anyone except his family? He's a very private person I think, however, I have never heard of him being a big music fan. The only thing I know about his hobbies, are he has a big a$$ yacht, I am pretty sure, and a big house, and I am sure whatever vehicles he wants. But I have never heard of him being a Ferrari guy either. Ehhh, 1%ers, they are all pretty much alike, just different toys.

In that bracket Tommy, you can do smart things with your money and still have play money. It's like a big pile of cash that never runs dry if you aren't the stupidest guy on the planet. Gates isn't.
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