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Old 05-18-2015, 01:45 AM
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There's nothing cliche about 4 piece kits.
Not a fad.

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Old 05-18-2015, 02:38 AM
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Drummers who sit too close to their drums. When you're using a house kit at a show or jam and the throne is too close and you can't move it back any further. It's hard to play when you have to pull your elbows way back behind you. Also drummers who have their snares way down below their knees. They must not ever use rim shots. One kit I sit in on regularly is set up so low that when I raise the snare up to the level of my knees, its higher than the rack tom.
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:56 AM
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One of my playing pet peeves is having the HH cymbals close down on a stick splinter while playing a song. If there's one little splinter hanging on a stick, no matter how small, I'll get it stuck between the HH's.

Another is hitting the wing nut on the cymbal while going for the bell, crash or ride. Always seems like I have no problem nailing that bullseye when going for a soft bell chime.
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Old 05-18-2015, 03:22 PM
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Was never a fan of the main ride cymbal mounted high at a steep angle. I've seen them taking a lot of real estate over a rack of mounted toms and it just feels awkward. Prefer mine just over and parallel with the floor tom head.
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Old 05-18-2015, 03:39 PM
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4 piece kits

4 piece kits with 1 "crash/ride" and 1 crash

4 piece kits with the tom in a snare stand

Have I mentioned 4 piece kits? At this point, its way more cliché then the big db kits were in the 80s.
Agreed! And while I'm at it, let me just say that 88 keys on a piano is sooooo cliché!" Three valves on a trumpet? Sooooooo last century! And don't even get me started on 4-string basses. Talk about old skool.
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Old 05-18-2015, 04:52 PM
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I've seen a guy set up a 4 piece kit with just a ride and crash, and then use a big ICON rack to mount them all. I just dont get it.

Also dont like kits where there's like 7 cymbals and 4 toms on the right side of the players body and just the hi hat and a crash for the left side.
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Old 05-20-2015, 01:20 AM
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My 2 cents worth-nothing wrong w/2 toms on the bass drum. Have played a 20" kick for years (2 up one down) so it's quite manageable, particularly w/a Yamaha tom holder, which is one of the best in the business. That said, I am not a fan of flattened rack toms, Hi Hats and cymbals which are too high and tilted floor toms. Ditto for hanging floor toms. I don't know when and where drummers started tilting their floor toms, but to me it's serves no purpose, and makes it harder, to quickly switch to sticks/brushes and/or mallets which have been resting on the FT on a particular song. If too slanted, they'll roll off. One other pet peeve, drummers who play with sticks which are clearly ready for the fireplace. If they're too chunked, get rid of 'em.
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Old 05-20-2015, 01:23 AM
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I've seen a guy set up a 4 piece kit with just a ride and crash, and then use a big ICON rack to mount them all. I just dont get it.
That's pretty funny.
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Ride cymbals set so low and flat it would be impossible to crash them without banging into or pushing over the floor tom.
I don't like rides set up too high either, but for me it has to be set high enough and somewhat angled to get a quick and clean fast crash, as desired.
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Old 05-20-2015, 02:35 AM
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Ride cymbals set so low and flat it would be impossible to crash them without banging into or pushing over the floor tom.
I don't like rides set up too high either, but for me it has to be set high enough and somewhat angled to get a quick and clean fast crash, as desired.
Funny, I used to hate the idea of crashing on a ride. Then I grew up. But in my defense my young ears at the time hated that harsh midrange. I recently turned 50 and suddenly I'm OK with a lot of things :-)

I do wonder though how much trends could be associated with frequency response. Punk was midrangy and old people can get annoyed with high-end. Man, planned right we could divide a music revolution by PI and get, well, something I'm sure. Just realized I'm 50 so unqualified to say. But I bet it's cool as hell.
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Old 05-20-2015, 06:43 AM
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I don't like hoops any thinner than 2.3mm, except for the Acrolite I can make an exception. I wonder how much it would change the sound if I bumped up the hoop size on the Acrolite? Could it possibly improve?
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Old 05-20-2015, 09:51 AM
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I thought long and hard this one, and I think my one pet peeve on this is hearing a drummer play with a band, but he's tuned his kit in such a way as it cuts so well, it's too much. I think this is a marketing thing where favorite drum artists say they tune high so the can project to the back of the room, or they need that absolute 'cut' - but the people they're influencing don't play the same type of music or even in the same type of venues, but will follow just because.
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Complete unexpected bass drum pedal clamp fail - see latter section of video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-vo...ature=youtu.be

Replacement pedal needed :(
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Old 05-20-2015, 10:42 AM
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Complete unexpected bass drum pedal clamp fail - see latter section of video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-vo...ature=youtu.be

Replacement pedal needed :(
Well, it happens.

All through that video I was half-expecting the guitarist next to you to start playing hockey since the guitar's headstock looks like a hockey stick ;)
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The pedal rebelled against you for making it play a Whitesnake song. Now's your chance to get an Axis pedal.
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Old 05-20-2015, 04:17 PM
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The pedal rebelled against you for making it play a Whitesnake song.
Completely fair comment ;)

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I was half-expecting the guitarist next to you to start playing hockey since the guitar's headstock looks like a hockey stick ;)
I'll be sure to pass that on to him so he can thank you intimately with said headstock should you ever visit these shores ;)
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I don't like hoops any thinner than 2.3mm, except for the Acrolite I can make an exception. I wonder how much it would change the sound if I bumped up the hoop size on the Acrolite? Could it possibly improve?
I think improve is subjective. It would change, whether it was good or bad would be your ear. I have 2.3 and diecast on most of my snares and there is some difference but I like both sounds. And I have tried bot types on all snares and its all good to me.
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When people telescope boom stand shafts really high and have the arm set at a 90 degree angle. It just looks weird.

Huge expensive DW boom stands used solely for mounting a 10" splash.

CS dot heads used as a bass drum reso.

Any kit with more Chinas than crashes. And I love Chinas.
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Big heavy ride cymbals on the end of a fully extended boom, for no apparent reason. I'm always worried the stand will fall over, or the boom will slip.
Why not just move the stand a foot closer?
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When the rack toms are all angled 90 degrees toward me after another drummer has used the kit. I simply can't stand it.
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:34 PM
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When another drummer uses your kit some adjustments are expected. But don't move my memory locks! Had a drummer do that just a couple weeks ago. Grrrrr
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Ok, let see:
a) Double pedals.
b) Double bass drums
c) Clear drumheads.
d) Black drumheads.
e) 34 drums, 72 cymbals and 20 pedals ALL IN THE SAME KIT.
f) 5 crashes in consecutive(almost) measures, ej: 15"-16"-17"-18"-20" ALL IN THE SAME KIT.
g) Cymbals at weird angles.
h) Black drumsticks.
i) Those little crashes that seems to come from a toy drumkit.
j) Portholes.
k) Exotic woods on the drum shells.
l) China cymbals.
m) 8" and 10" toms.
n) Piccolo snare drums
o) Snare drums deeper than 6".
p) Bass drums deeper than 16".
q) Racks
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Ok, let see:
a) Double pedals.
b) Double bass drums
c) Clear drumheads.
d) Black drumheads.
e) 34 drums, 72 cymbals and 20 pedals ALL IN THE SAME KIT.
f) 5 crashes in consecutive(almost) measures, ej: 15"-16"-17"-18"-20" ALL IN THE SAME KIT.
g) Cymbals at weird angles.
h) Black drumsticks.
i) Those little crashes that seems to come from a toy drumkit.
j) Portholes.
k) Exotic woods on the drum shells.
l) China cymbals.
m) 8" and 10" toms.
n) Piccolo snare drums
o) Snare drums deeper than 6".
p) Bass drums deeper than 16".
q) Racks
Gee, if you thought about it a bit longer, you could have come up with one or two more to completely alienate everyone on DW. :) How about drumsticks?
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Old 06-21-2015, 04:25 PM
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Gee, if you thought about it a bit longer, you could have come up with one or two more to completely alienate everyone on DW. :) How about drumsticks?
It would have been quicker just to say: I'm peeved by people playing drums. :-)
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Old 06-21-2015, 05:56 PM
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Very large kits in small, quiet venues.

It screams

- "hey look at my toys"
- "my drum talent is proportional to the size of my kit"
- "mine's bigger than yours"

instead of

- "I'm here to make good, appropriate music for this venue."

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Really high hi hats look rediculous to me.
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Really high hi hats look rediculous to me.
Ha-ha, Travis Barker style
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Old 06-28-2015, 02:14 AM
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Gee, if you thought about it a bit longer, you could have come up with one or two more to completely alienate everyone on DW. :) How about drumsticks?
Ok, funny boys, let me explain my case to you ¿ok? Here we go:
a) Double pedals are, in my opinion, simply stupid. A good drummer doing good things with one good pedal is enough for me. I heard some double-pedal drummers lately, I wanted to vomit...it was just noise. And a bad one. Besides, I don't like them.
b) With a couple a great exceptions, is all the same as above...
c) & d) I just prefer the look of a traditional drumhead, that's all.
e) I was thinking of Terry Bozzio, but I think that a good drummer, even a great one doesn't need that much gear.
f) With two different measures one drummer can cover the whole sounds spectrum ¿how many people, pros or hobbists can hear the difference between a 17" and an 18", seriously? Oh ¿you can? Kudos to you.
g) I can't watch any drummer playing his/her cymbals horizontal or in an angle bigger than 25º, it gets on my nerves.
h) Some Drummerworld member thinks like me. What he said, I said.
i) Those little crashes are non-musical toys. Let kids play with them(sorry, Stewart)
j) Portholes are like a pimple in the nose for me, I want to remove it. A good engineer or soundman MUST do his work without them. Or find another job. Look my o) & p) answers.
k) It's just a matter of visuals, that's all. Three people in the world can tell the difference between exotic or domestic, I'm not one of them.
l) Chyna sounds good...for the chinese.
m) It's the same that little crashes, is like playing a soup can or a coffe can. Just horrible.
n) Just don't like them, as simple as that.
o) & p) My favourite drummers don't play them, so, I don't like them.
q) I'm kind of a traditional guy so, I like the drums and cymbals on their classic, original positions. BD and FD on the floor, snare in a craddle, cymbals on stands. It is a matter of personal taste.

PS1: ¿drumsticks? 5A or 5Bs, wooden tip. Acorn if it's possible. But I understand people using nylon tips.
PS2: Pocket-full-of-gold, I'm sorry ¿did I hurt your sensitivity?
PS3: I never wanted to alienate nobody, this are MY opinions.
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Old 06-28-2015, 02:26 AM
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It does not impact me in a negative way when someone plays a kit with a strange arrangement where the snare is at the edge of their reach, or they have to stand up on the thrown to hit the cymbals. It makes a good show when they do that. However, I would not set my own kit up that way. When I go into a studio or have to use someone else' kit and that kit is broken and can not adjust to the way I like to play I get annoyed.

However, there is just something I do not understand. That is why do so many drummers set their thrown very very low to the ground. This only annoys me when I can not adjust the thrown height when I play on these kits.
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PS2: Pocket-full-of-gold, I'm sorry ¿did I hurt your sensitivity?
Not at all.

But given it was little more than an obvious gentle ribbing, it's pretty clear that I've hurt yours.
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Old 06-28-2015, 03:28 AM
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The cymbals that hung on chains in the 80's
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Sticky floors. That's why I always use my own rug...err..."energy vortex"...
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Ok, funny boys, let me explain my case to you ¿ok? Here we go:
a) Double pedals are, in my opinion, simply stupid. A good drummer doing good things with one good pedal is enough for me. I heard some double-pedal drummers lately, I wanted to vomit...it was just noise. And a bad one. Besides, I don't like them.
b) With a couple a great exceptions, is all the same as above...
c) & d) I just prefer the look of a traditional drumhead, that's all.
e) I was thinking of Terry Bozzio, but I think that a good drummer, even a great one doesn't need that much gear.
f) With two different measures one drummer can cover the whole sounds spectrum ¿how many people, pros or hobbists can hear the difference between a 17" and an 18", seriously? Oh ¿you can? Kudos to you.
g) I can't watch any drummer playing his/her cymbals horizontal or in an angle bigger than 25º, it gets on my nerves.
h) Some Drummerworld member thinks like me. What he said, I said.
i) Those little crashes are non-musical toys. Let kids play with them(sorry, Stewart)
j) Portholes are like a pimple in the nose for me, I want to remove it. A good engineer or soundman MUST do his work without them. Or find another job. Look my o) & p) answers.
k) It's just a matter of visuals, that's all. Three people in the world can tell the difference between exotic or domestic, I'm not one of them.
l) Chyna sounds good...for the chinese.
m) It's the same that little crashes, is like playing a soup can or a coffe can. Just horrible.
n) Just don't like them, as simple as that.
o) & p) My favourite drummers don't play them, so, I don't like them.
q) I'm kind of a traditional guy so, I like the drums and cymbals on their classic, original positions. BD and FD on the floor, snare in a craddle, cymbals on stands. It is a matter of personal taste.

PS1: ¿drumsticks? 5A or 5Bs, wooden tip. Acorn if it's possible. But I understand people using nylon tips.
PS2: Pocket-full-of-gold, I'm sorry ¿did I hurt your sensitivity?
PS3: I never wanted to alienate nobody, this are MY opinions.
Normally a "pet peeve" is ONE thing that bugs you about something. You have a whole pet store going on.

I guess we should all just sound like Ringo or something.

No, you didn't upset me, I just find your dislike of so many things that have been done in the last 40 years funny.

I guess The Police would have been better without Stewart hitting all those little "toy crashes".
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Not at all.

But given it was little more than an obvious gentle ribbing, it's pretty clear that I've hurt yours.

Not at all.
I was just curious. Besides, as a non english speaking guy sometimes is hard for me to get the subtleness of the Shakespeare(or Hemingway) mother tongue.
My apologizes.
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Not a peeve, but massive sized kits are boring.

To look at, listen to, and play. Even to think about.

I'm bored typing about them.

I don't like them, either.



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Angled snare drums. Those drive me crazy. Unless you play traditional grip, then your snare should not be angled *grumble*

Have you seen Ronnie Tutt play "Proud Mary" during his tenure with Elvis in 1972? It looks as though his snare is angled at the same as the rack toms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue0N1sOVlnc


Also, here's a rehearsal of the same song from March, 1972 in preparation for the upcoming tour that April:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-v6pLvoZSY


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Ok, let see:
a) Double pedals.
b) Double bass drums
c) Clear drumheads.
d) Black drumheads.
e) 34 drums, 72 cymbals and 20 pedals ALL IN THE SAME KIT.
f) 5 crashes in consecutive(almost) measures, ej: 15"-16"-17"-18"-20" ALL IN THE SAME KIT.
g) Cymbals at weird angles.
h) Black drumsticks.
i) Those little crashes that seems to come from a toy drumkit.
j) Portholes.
k) Exotic woods on the drum shells.
l) China cymbals.
m) 8" and 10" toms.
n) Piccolo snare drums
o) Snare drums deeper than 6".
p) Bass drums deeper than 16".
q) Racks
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Gee, if you thought about it a bit longer, you could have come up with one or two more to completely alienate everyone on DW. :) How about drumsticks?

Or he could have tried for the entire alphabet. (No offense, seriously. I'm only joking, bud). Some of what he's listed, I'm not fond of, either. I think he mentions black drumsticks in his list - I hate them, too. That's why I don't understand why Steve Gadd (one of my new favorite drummers) uses them. However, I love DB kits and the use of what they call "concert toms" - I always have loved them - probably because of my first influence, Ronnie Tutt.
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Not sure if this counts but:

When you are completely misled about the kit you will be playing. Such as when the venue you are playing for says, "we just bought a brand new drumkit from GC and spent a bunch of money, only got the best stuff off the showroom floor." Then you get there and find a child's beginner kit with a 5 gallon bucket for a throne......

This is why I always bring backup equipment to every gig now.
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Old 06-28-2015, 11:36 PM
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Normally a "pet peeve" is ONE thing that bugs you about something. You have a whole pet store going on.

I guess we should all just sound like Ringo or something.

No, you didn't upset me, I just find your dislike of so many things that have been done in the last 40 years funny.

I guess The Police would have been better without Stewart hitting all those little "toy crashes".
A pet peeve is a minor annoyance that an individual identifies as particularly annoying to himself or herself, to a greater degree than others may find it.
Well, all the 17 items listed above are, FOR ME, pet peeves or pet hates, if you like.
And, of course, we don't have to sound all like Ringo(¡not a bad thing in itself), you have your tastes in drumming, I have mine. You like some things, I like others. Salty dog never said "pick only one pet peeve". Some people have one, some people have three, I have seventeen. Anytime I see a drummer with one of them it unsettles me. Even if I like his playing or the music he's playing. At least some of them(cymbals angles, double pedals, portholes, multiple drums/cymbals) I can't stand them, I prefer to walk away or turn around and stop looking at the player. Others are just cosmetics preferences that I would never have in my drum kit. It's a personal thing ¿you know?
Case closed ¿ok? ¿peace, yes?

PS: I love The Police, I really do but anytime a hear Copeland hitting those crashes, that "¡piffshh!" drives me crazy, I start to grind my teeth.
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Not having enough floor space.....
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If I had to pick, it would be either "endorsement" stickers on the bass drum of the gear you use when you're not endorsed by them. Just seems fake to me.
The other is high angle rack toms (ala Nicko McBrain), and cymbals (Wailin' Smash). Seems unnatural to play like that as I'm a low and flat tom/cymbal player (think Travis Barker/Jack White). Not sure how that started, but it's always just felt & looked right to me.
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Folks have pretty much covered anything that annoys me, it seems. The biggest to me, is the cymbals WAY up high.... and rack toms almost flat. It doesn't annoy me to look at with someone else playing, if its good for them, great. Just for me to try and play on a kit like that, makes things far too difficult for me. Either of those things...a regular jam I play at has the (very nice kit) toms almost flat, I'm only up for a few songs, not gonna adjust all that stuff for that. Just tough to play well when its so far out of your comfort zone... It's interesting, as I'm taller than the guy who owns the kit. I just don't see how he hits them without hitting the rims, like I do.

Oh yeah, I guess one visual thing that does annoy me a bit is the kits (mostlky entry level stuff) with the rack tom mounts that are at a steep angle, probably 45 degrees or so, and of course can't be adjusted. I do think that looks silly. Again, if folks like it, more power to them, just not for me.

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