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Old 05-14-2015, 05:15 PM
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Long hair with a bad dye job, ludicrous snare drum angle while playing matched grip, too tight/stupid looking shirt, shimmering, stacked towers of cymbals that might collapse onto your head at any moment, creepy voiceover in YT videos.

Oh, and duct tape on drum heads.

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Old 05-14-2015, 05:25 PM
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Have you ever seen a drum setup and thought oh god that looks awful?
I personally cannot stand suspended Floor toms and heavily angled toms.
When it comes to other people's kits, my only pet peeve is when they haven't been given sufficient space to set up and they're blocking my path to the bar or the restroom.
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:45 PM
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...FAIL! If the audience can't see you play , you might as well stay home and send a recording!
Not strictly kit related, but running with this thought - black drumsticks annoy the hell out of me for this reason. Love me some Gadd, but it bugs me that I can't visually follow his sticking. I've seen other drummers using black sticks and same thing. Especially on a dark stage. What's the point of that? In order for something to look cool, you have to be able to see it, right?
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My pet peeve? How 'bout the saw dust remnants of once complete drum sticks below my hi-hats. And speaking of hi-hats, I really don't like hats that sit at shoulder level - too high - especially when the drum throne is way too low.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:15 PM
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Cymbals set way above the set, china set at a 90 degree angle so its useless, pieces put miles apart so you cant reach them.

However, I do love the suspended floor toms. It's a lot more comfortable to play than regular floor toms.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:19 PM
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I really hate those clear plastic quarantine zones that some drummers use (or are forced to use). Like..WE are the problem..!
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:37 PM
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I do love the suspended floor toms. It's a lot more comfortable to play than regular floor toms.
I completely fail to see how a suspended floor tom can be more comfortable to play than one with legs. Do you play the bottom head or some other "out there" technique? ;)
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:41 PM
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For some reason a single bass drum kit with a spread of many rack toms just looks very cheesy and dated to me.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:51 PM
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Just had to play another persons kit with a 1 up 2 down config. Wow I hated it. So far to go from rack to floor tom.

Crappy heads with duct tape.
Really poor quality BD pedals.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:53 PM
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Oh cool, an invitation to complain.

I had to think about it for a minute but I don't understand guys that setup their rack tom on a snare stand at the exact same height as their snare.. Wtf.. The stick has to hit it at a pretty sharp angle. I think they're just copying that punk guy, which brings me to my main one:

I know there are only so many setups we can think of but fanboys that have no imagination of their own and copy some famous drummers setup.

Even worse is when they have no idea how to use the setups.

5 crash cymbals, 3 chinas, 3 splashes but no real understanding of their application other than to give them each a turn at being hit. Each to their own but I associate these setups with douchebags who just play drums to look cool then quit when they his their 20s and realize drums require some patience and effort.

Oh and people that use tiny snare drums as a main snare and crank them up tight.
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:01 PM
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I have tom angle anxiety.
I hate my own deep power toms mounted to my 22 inch bass drum on my gigging kit. I can't get my toms low enough and close enough together for my taste.

(Bless my new Yamaha Live Customs with the shallow toms.)

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Jim,

I bought my current Mapex kit after 30 years out of playing and bought the best sounding kit for the money I had available. I thought the deep toms would be great since I like a deep sound. Now I realize those deep toms on my 22" BD do put my kit up higher than I would prefer. If I ever pull the trigger for a second or replacement kit it will definitely have shallow toms and probably smaller too.
But I don't have trouble getting them close enough.
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:06 PM
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Jim,

I bought my current Mapex kit after 30 years out of playing and bought the best sounding kit for the money I had available. I thought the deep toms would be great since I like a deep sound. Now I realize those deep toms on my 22" BD do put my kit up higher than I would prefer. If I ever pull the trigger for a second or replacement kit it will definitely have shallow toms and probably smaller too.
But I don't have trouble getting them close enough.
Yeah that looks great.
I like the sound of the deep toms.
My toms are at about the same angle as yours. Not too bad.

How tall are you?

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Old 05-14-2015, 07:07 PM
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"On the other side of the fence, pet peeve is drummers who haven't got a clue how to tune their instrument, or any appreciation of appropriate tuning for the situation. Disappointingly, that's 90%+ of drummers out there in my experience :( "

Andy I always feel like you are talking to me! Not because you in anyway say it to me, but I just am not satisfied with my tuning abilities. I think I have improved but am never happy. What would be your fee to fly over and teach me to tune my drums? ;-)
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:30 PM
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I'm 5 ft 10 in. Part of issue about height also has to do with trying to make sure I am visible behind the kit, not just for vanity but I also sing lead on a few songs. I would love to be able to drop everything by about 2 inches. And yes also reduce the angle of the toms just a bit. Especially my 10" on my left next to my HH.
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:28 PM
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Long hair with a bad dye job, ludicrous snare drum angle while playing matched grip, stupid looking shirt, shimmering, stacked towers of cymbals that might collapse onto your head at any moment, creepy voiceover in YT videos.

Oh, and duct tape on drum heads.
...Wailin' Smash? Lol.
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:42 PM
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For me, its when some beginner players adjust their pedal beaters to be closer to the head when its idle... so instead of a 45 or even 60 degree angle, its closer to 70 or 75 degrees

Can't play anything but quarter notes because there's no travel, and the beater barely returns off the head... have encountered that a few times while sitting in
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I think I've found the most pet peeves combined in one kit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdOTkRllJi8

- The most obvious one is the hihat up in the stratosphere (must be a custom stand)
- Snare heavily angled away from the drummer (along with the toms)
- Substantial distance between toms
- Cymbals high and flat
- Duct tape everywhere

The ironic (for lack of a better term) part is that the guy, Col Hatchman, is a superb drummer. To each his own when it comes to setups, I guess. I certainly couldn't play that kit :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdOTkRllJi8
Can you imagine 16ths on the hihats?
Great drummer - but no doubt he will change his setup by the time he's 40. His shoulders will require it.
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:20 PM
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I would love to be able to drop everything by about 2 inches. And yes also reduce the angle of the toms just a bit. Especially my 10" on my left next to my HH.
Looks to me your hanging toms can come down 2 - 3 inches before hitting the bass drum? I see plenty of space below the toms there.
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:25 PM
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Can you imagine 16ths on the hihats?
Great drummer - but no doubt he will change his setup by the time he's 40. His shoulders will require it.
For what it's worth, he is 40 ;)
That clip is a couple of years old though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_Hatchman
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I hate my own deep power toms mounted to my 22 inch bass drum on my gigging kit. I can't get my toms low enough and close enough together for my taste.

(Bless my new Yamaha Live Customs with the shallow toms.)

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- that's another reason why I mount 2 toms on a separate double-spike stand just to the side of my kick. I can get the power toms down nice and low - and at the same time, the kick and toms sound better as they are isolated; the kick doesn't have the weight and hardware jammed on top. I angle the kick a bit to the right and slide the floors in close. It's very comfortable to play.. no big stretch or gap between the 2 high toms and the floors. My snare sits facing the 2 high toms.. so from an audience perspective they can see everything I'm doing.. and from my perspective it works ergonomically - the inner tenor tom and floor tom position is about the same as a standard 1 up 1 down configuration.
I am 6'2" so it might not work for everyone..
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I'm not quite sure what you're asking about the receiver hole.
If you'll notice in this picture the ball in socket mounts clamp on to the post that comes off the slide track. Makes it even that much more adjustable.
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I think I've found the most pet peeves combined in one kit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdOTkRllJi8

- The most obvious one is the hihat up in the stratosphere (must be a custom stand)

Wow, that's even got this guy beat for tallest HH.




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I think I've found the most pet peeves combined in one kit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdOTkRllJi8

- The most obvious one is the hihat up in the stratosphere (must be a custom stand)
That tall hi hat makes perfect sense. He's simply resolved the age-old problem of proper vertical phase alignment of the cymbal bank. Speaker manufacturers have known since the 1940s that hi frequency sounds arriving at the audience's ears at different times - especially misalignments in the vertical plane -causes an auditory phenomenon known as "hi frequency smearing." Depending on the prominence of this smearing in the 4-5.2kHz range, this phenomenon has been know to result in nausea and - in extreme cases - vertigo. Less pronounced cases tend to prompt guitarists to trip over cables, singers to tumble off stages, and bassists to stare wide-mouthed and drooling at fluorescent beer signs for minutes on end.

King Tinnitus the Younger (1412-1376 BC) is recorded to have had five cymbalists scourged for the "foul stings that sorely test my lobes." Recently discovered photos reveal that the percussionists had misaligned their cymbals horizontally by as much as 32cm.


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For what it's worth, he is 40 ;)
That clip is a couple of years old though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_Hatchman
haha, more fool me. unbelievable.... how does he sustain that setup, using his arms etc? what a workout.
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Dents in the heads peeve me out.
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The whole "bottoms heads removed, with 10 year old pitted pinstripes on top" look you sometimes see with bar bands.
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...Less pronounced cases tend to prompt guitarists to trip over cables, singers to tumble off stages, and bassists to stare wide-mouthed and drooling at fluorescent beer signs for minutes on end.
I was convinced until the bit which added bold to.

That's just what bassists do.
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The whole "bottoms heads removed, with 10 year old pitted pinstripes on top" look you sometimes see with bar bands.
Oh yes, seen enough of those :( Makes me laugh & cry at the same time when I'm asked to get a good FOH sound from such kits. Sad thing is, most of those players truly believe I can!
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Tight BD pedal springs. Seems everybody keeps it tighter than I do.
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Tight BD pedal springs. Seems everybody keeps it tighter than I do.
You would hate my pedals. lol They are always set at maximum tension.



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Entire set ups made out of dark,dry,un-lathed models. Basically ,half the Meinl artist roster. Most of those things sound broken to me.

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Ok, I got ya now. I actually have never put anything in the receiver tube, so I'm not sure what size it will take.

Tube could be chopped, knuckle (clamp) reattached, YAMAHA 7/8", or another manufactures 1" tom mount could used to accommodate different makes of tom brackets.
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I love virgin bass drums. My bass drum can never have a mounting system in it. I hate having two racks toms. I only like one rack tom and one or two floor toms. And my rack tom always has to be on a snare stand. I hate when people angle their Chinas instead of leaving them flat. Leaving them flat gives them so much better sound, IMO. I love the trashy cut from Chinas. I hate racks because they look weird. I don't want a metal bar hanging over my bass drum.
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Constantly having to move the drums up/ my stool down as I am growing fairly quickly...
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4 piece kits

4 piece kits with 1 "crash/ride" and 1 crash

4 piece kits with the tom in a snare stand

Have I mentioned 4 piece kits? At this point, its way more cliché then the big db kits were in the 80s.
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My own kits pet peeve are me trying to learn to tune for 6 months and still can't make them sound how i would like. or good.. ready to pay someone to come tune them :)

Other peeve would be me being too cheap to add a second crash and different hats.. these pst8 hats are just too bright
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4 piece kits with 1 "crash/ride" and 1 crash

4 piece kits with the tom in a snare stand

Have I mentioned 4 piece kits? At this point, its way more cliché then the big db kits were in the 80s.
Ouch! You're hurting my feelings, Axe. Although I'll usually set up a second floor tom, I'm basically a four-piece player at heart because that's the configuration I've been playing since 1965! I tried my hand at sets with multiple mounted toms, but could never feel comfortable behind them. I understand what you're saying, though. Trends come and go. I'm in the boat with you when it comes to the ride tom in a snare stand. I think it ruins the looks of a kit. If one wants to maintain a virgin kick drum, why not suspend the ride tom from a tom/cymbal stand? Better yet, ditch the whole virgin bass drum nonsense and install a rail consolette. Now we're talkin'.

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My pet peeve is guitartists that say they will give you time and space to get set up and then proceed to impede you in every way possible and noodle constantly at high volume while they do it!
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Can you imagine 16ths on the hihats?
Great drummer - but no doubt he will change his setup by the time he's 40. His shoulders will require it.
Yeah - the way he is laying into it at that height - he definitely has surgery in his future.
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