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Old 05-13-2015, 04:29 PM
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Default What is your drum setup pet peeve?

Have you ever seen a drum setup and thought oh god that looks awful?
I personally cannot stand suspended Floor toms and heavily angled toms.
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Old 05-13-2015, 04:31 PM
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Not a fan of playing two racks mounted to the bass. Seems like most backline kits are set up this way too.
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Old 05-13-2015, 05:00 PM
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overly floppy bass pedals that smack me in the shin.
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Old 05-13-2015, 05:12 PM
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I cant stand setups that have toms snares and cymbals spaced 2 miles apart. Also cymbals that stand 20 feet high.
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Old 05-13-2015, 05:40 PM
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Not a fan of playing two racks mounted to the bass. Seems like most backline kits are set up this way too.
Agreed. For some reason I can't work out, the standard 5 piece configuration just doesn't feel right to me. Positionally, I find almost all double tom bracket bass drum mounts to be restrictive in terms of positioning, so that probably doesn't help.

On the other side of the fence, pet peeve is drummers who haven't got a clue how to tune their instrument, or any appreciation of appropriate tuning for the situation. Disappointingly, that's 90%+ of drummers out there in my experience :(
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Old 05-13-2015, 05:56 PM
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Not a fan of 2 toms on the bass either.
BUT a bigger peeve or request, is for some company to simplify the break down/compaction of the high hat stand for easy transport.
There has to be a better way than undoing the tube, unscrewing the rod ...etc.
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:08 PM
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Crazy tom angles, suspended floor toms, cymbals at extreme angles on stands set really high, drum throne too low, bass drum or hi hat stand moving out of place as you play.
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:18 PM
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I thought you meant "Your" drum setup, as in your own kit. Ha, plenty.

With others kits its the huge step down to the floor tom on kits with a BD mounted tom, on anything bigger than a 20" BD.
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:23 PM
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Extra-tall hi-hats. ( hi-hi-hi-hats?)
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:31 PM
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There's many things that I would personally find uncomfortable that I can mostly just chalk up to personal preferences, but the two things that really kill me are:

Snare drum positioned so that there is no possible way the drummer could ever hit a rimshot. Maybe I just like rimshots too much, but I don't know why anybody would want to limit themselves like that.

Cymbals set up overhead. Not really referring to the Bozzio style where he angles them so that they're playable and more task-specific anyway, but that sort of pop-punk things where crashes are mounted way up high on straight stands and kept flat so that the edges are the only part that could ever be hit.
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:49 PM
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I always cringe when I see a rack tom in a basket low and to the side of the kick with about 3 feet between it and the floor tom. Add a ride cymbal right between them and I'm just standing there scratching my head.

I guess it's cool for the dude set up that way, but I could never get comfortable on a kit with toms separated that much. Don't really see the point not being able to move between them.
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:15 PM
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I went to search for the usual Wailin Smash video clip in answer to the high cymbals comment, but then I found A NEW WAILIN SMASH VIDEO!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQq1w5cUhYA
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:24 PM
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I dont gave a problem wigh mounted toms on the bass drum but hanging floor toms bother me.. Many pros play two toms mounted on the bass drum. If its good enough for them.......
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:46 PM
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I went to search for the usual Wailin Smash video clip in answer to the high cymbals comment, but then I found A NEW WAILIN SMASH VIDEO!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQq1w5cUhYA
Dear lord... how long has this been a thing?

I think the phrase "this is my competitive advantage" has just entered my everyday lexicon.

Those cymbal... trees look downright deadly.
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:15 PM
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I went to search for the usual Wailin Smash video clip in answer to the high cymbals comment, but then I found A NEW WAILIN SMASH VIDEO!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQq1w5cUhYA
LOL. So this video pretty much sums up all the peeves commented here so far.
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:31 PM
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Dear lord... how long has this been a thing?

I think the phrase "this is my competitive advantage" has just entered my everyday lexicon.

Those cymbal... trees look downright deadly.
I actually think he'd work pretty well in a band like Steel Panther or Gwar. It's just part of the atmosphere.
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:37 PM
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People trying to cram too many toms or toms that are too large between the high hat and bass drum so that the hi-hat is so far to the left you can't comfortably reach it.

That, and second floor tom setups where it is more "behind them" than it is "to the side of them"
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:54 PM
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Dear lord... how long has this been a thing?
Wailin Smash? He's been strutting the same thing for decades. Got to give him props for consistency :)

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LOL. So this video pretty much sums up all the peeves commented here so far.
And every other peeve ever contemplated!
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:35 PM
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Pearl L-arm tom mounts done incorrectly, causing the rack toms to look like Mickey Mouse ears a half-mile apart.

Extreme tom angles at seated eye level.

Hi-hat and kick pedals at 90-degree angles to each other.

You know, basically what you see on Craigslist, except someone actually plays like that.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:42 PM
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Pearl L-arm tom mounts done incorrectly, causing the rack toms to look like Mickey Mouse ears a half-mile apart.

Extreme tom angles at seated eye level.

Hi-hat and kick pedals at 90-degree angles to each other.

You know, basically what you see on Craigslist, except someone actually plays like that.
Yes Alparrot dead on in regards to the Pearl L-arm tom mounts.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:49 PM
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I really don't get bothered by what other people do. I may not like their music but if they're playing out and they're good then they can set their drums up however they want.

That out of the way, there is some hipster band with a bunch if chubby bearded white dudes in plad, I don't care what their name is, the drummer plays a pretty standard stripped down setup. He had a single crash way above his head and some silly reason for having it there. I don't know why but this bothers me more than anything should. I don't know him but I don't like him, his crappy band and everything that he is.
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:23 PM
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I really don't get bothered by what other people do. I may not like their music but if they're playing out and they're good then they can set their drums up however they want.

That out of the way, there is some hipster band with a bunch if chubby bearded white dudes in plad, I don't care what their name is, the drummer plays a pretty standard stripped down setup. He had a single crash way above his head and some silly reason for having it there. I don't know why but this bothers me more than anything should. I don't know him but I don't like him, his crappy band and everything that he is.
I was digging the positivity but that last part made me laugh.
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:25 PM
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I always cringe when I see a rack tom in a basket low and to the side of the kick with about 3 feet between it and the floor tom. Add a ride cymbal right between them and I'm just standing there scratching my head.

I guess it's cool for the dude set up that way, but I could never get comfortable on a kit with toms separated that much. Don't really see the point not being able to move between them.
In a stand or on a kick drum arm that tom is going to be separated more than a two rack tom/5 piece kit. What you're talking about almost sounds like any 4 piece setup out there, or are you thinking of something more extreme?
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:27 PM
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Kits that are too spaced out.

And also, awkward pedal angles and positions
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:28 PM
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I dislike the scenario when a kit looks exactly right, but the snare is ~1" too high, or the throne is ~1" too low, resulting in rim clicks on the snare for a quarter of the first song before I learn to compensate.
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:39 PM
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I have tom angle anxiety.
I hate my own deep power toms mounted to my 22 inch bass drum on my gigging kit. I can't get my toms low enough and close enough together for my taste.

(Bless my new Yamaha Live Customs with the shallow toms.)

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Old 05-13-2015, 11:03 PM
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In terms of visuals, I can't stand those drum racks that some drummers use: they look like a fence was built around the drums, and usually holds way more than the drummer would ever use.

As far as playing, cymbal height and snare angle always get me. Some drummers have their cymbals so high you have to reach your arm up to play. Also, flat snares drums or drums tilted towards the throne are awkward and uncomfortable to play.
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:41 PM
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In a stand or on a kick drum arm that tom is going to be separated more than a two rack tom/5 piece kit. What you're talking about almost sounds like any 4 piece setup out there, or are you thinking of something more extreme?
I play a one up two down set up, so it's not that I mind some separation. It's the extreme cases where I can't visualize smoothly transitioning between toms. Seems to be for looks or something not playing related.
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:47 PM
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I think the worst is really big ugly ads on the set, that just ruins the whole thing for me.
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Old 05-14-2015, 12:11 AM
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I mainly play in a 17 pc big band. All the other players simply pop off the mouth piece and through it in a case and are gone. I spend a good half hour packing stuff away. Same with the set up. I have to arrive an hour before the start or I won't have a place to set up. Well, they said life wasn't always fare.
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Old 05-14-2015, 12:21 AM
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Agreed. For some reason I can't work out, the standard 5 piece configuration just doesn't feel right to me. Positionally, I find almost all double tom bracket bass drum mounts to be restrictive in terms of positioning, so that probably doesn't help.

On the other side of the fence, pet peeve is drummers who haven't got a clue how to tune their instrument, or any appreciation of appropriate tuning for the situation. Disappointingly, that's 90%+ of drummers out there in my experience :(
You need to check out Taye's SlideTrack mounting system. The SlideTrack with ball in socket Tom mounts is extremely adjustable....love it!
I'll be in the minority, but I don't like standard 4 piece set-ups (1 up, 1 down) or a 5 piece with 1 up and 2 down. I grew up playing the 2 rack toms above the bass drum, and I still like that best.
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You need to check out Taye's SlideTrack mounting system. The SlideTrack with ball in socket Tom mounts is extremely adjustable....love it!
I'll be in the minority, but I don't like standard 4 piece set-ups (1 up, 1 down) or a 5 piece with 1 up and 2 down. I grew up playing the 2 rack toms above the bass drum, and I still like that best.

Interesting design on the TAYE slide track. What is the receiver holes capability 1", will it clamp a 7/8" tube?


I have DW SLIDE TRACKS on different brands of BD's. The DW's are quite adjustable, tho quite heavy, which seems to only effect the hardware bag tho.

I prefer two toms on the BD, and understand the tough accessibility factor to the second tom, a slide track can make it more comfortable. Its so much easier setting up two toms on a BD as opposed to setting them up on two separate stands. All rental kits with BD mounted toms should have slide tracks IMO.
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I'm not quite sure what you're asking about the receiver hole.
If you'll notice in this picture the ball in socket mounts clamp on to the post that comes off the slide track. Makes it even that much more adjustable.

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Angled snare drums. Those drive me crazy. Unless you play traditional grip, then your snare should not be angled *grumble*
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Bright, neon colored plastic clave/wood block sets.
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Old 05-14-2015, 08:54 AM
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Not a peeve, but massive sized kits are boring.

To look at, listen to, and play. Even to think about.

I'm bored typing about them.
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That out of the way, there is some hipster band with a bunch if chubby bearded white dudes in plad, I don't care what their name is, the drummer plays a pretty standard stripped down setup. He had a single crash way above his head and some silly reason for having it there. I don't know why but this bothers me more than anything should. I don't know him but I don't like him, his crappy band and everything that he is.
I'm almost certain you're thinking of Battles. The supposed reason he puts his crash so high is to discourage himself from using it too much:

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I didnít want any cymbals but the hi-hats at first. Then I was like, ďOkay, Iíll use one,Ē but I didnít want it near me because Iíd use it too much. So I set it high so Iíd have to work to get to it. I wanted it to be significant; I use it as a marker. Itís like a master reset button when I go to the cymbal. Plus, it looks cool.
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:01 PM
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My pet peeves originate with popular trends, which are often sparked by some famous drummer's opinion - right or wrong. For example, JoJo Meyer (sp?) recently remarked that single braced, straight cymbal stands don't inhibit a cymbal's resonance as much as double braced boom stands. I'm certain that we'll see the impressionables taking this as gospel truth and then it will be off to the races. Recently I've noticed many drummers leaving the top felts and wingnuts off their cymbal stands. Who knows who started this one. Then there's the use of the floor tom as the only tom on the kit, and the return to flattened tom and cymbal angles (I actually like this one - it looks classy :-). There are dozens more, of course, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with following popular trends so that we can look cool, too. I just hope it doesn't again become popular to leave the bottom heads and hoops off our toms. I'll have to bow out of that one.

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Old 05-14-2015, 05:33 PM
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Racks (although efficient) are just plain U-g-l-y.
But my biggest peeve is:

I hate seeing a band where the drummer is hiding behind a wall of toms and cymbals..


One of the most frustrating things ever was seeing an amazing jazz drummer.. and I couldn't see a thing he was doing because he had a wall of angled cymbals surrounding him.. FAIL! If the audience can't see you play , you might as well stay home and send a recording!

For that reason I keep my toms as low as possible; 2 toms to the side of my kick and 2 floors close in to my kick leg. The position /distance between the tenors and floor toms is identical to the old classic setup (1 up 1 down). Cymbals are at a comfortable height with slight angles that don't obscure the view.
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I cant stand setups that have toms snares and cymbals spaced 2 miles apart. Also cymbals that stand 20 feet high.
Whatever you do, don't google the drummer from the band Battles!

Also Daru Jones' setup. Pretty bizarre.
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