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Old 06-19-2014, 09:38 AM
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I need help with a new drum set, and not sure what to look for.
A decent Blues set would probably suit.

Iím essentially a sax player, but when my son moved out 12 months ago and left an Ashton drum set behind I decided to give it and to my surprise I could play it. Enjoyed it for a while, but then started to feel the kit shortcommings, and decided to improve it.
It already had Rydeen cymbals, I added decent heads, a good Pearl pedal, cymbal stands, a comfy nice seat Ö

And now I feel that I may have outgrown the kit. Itís difficult to tune up the toms, the hardware is breaking up, Iím unhappy with the cymbals, the set is quite large, the ergonomics of toms positioning is all wrong and cannot be improved much.

I already made up my mind on the ride cymbals. It will be either Bosphorus Samba Ride or K Dark Medium Ride.
Iíll keep the pedal and the seat, and two cymbal stands.

The rest needs to be replaced. Probably smaller than this kit (the bass drum is 22Ē).

I was hoping for some good advice from you guys.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:06 AM
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I'm afraid all I can offer is some common sense tidbits, since there are so many great kits available these days.

1: Budget first, then shop. How much are you looking to spend. How much are you willing to spend?

2: Cymbals > Shells. Figure out your cymbals and snare before going shell shopping. At the very least, figure out your hats, primary crash, and ride. Cheap kits with good cymbals sound far better than cheap cymbals on expensive kits.

3: Get the snare you want (get a nice snare). Don't compromise.

4: Buy used. Honestly, you'll pay approximately 50% of the 'new' price on shells if you take your time and buy used. I've seen forum members picking up Gretsch renowns for $700 and Catalina Clubs for $250.

Once you have a rough idea of what you want, post it and the vultures will pick it apart to let you know the good and the bad, and offer some similarly priced alternatives.
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:19 AM
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Cheers KamaK,

1: Budget first, then shop. How much are you looking to spend. How much are you willing to spend?
I would like to spend less than $2000 .

2: Cymbals > Shells. Figure out your cymbals and snare before going shell shopping. At the very least, figure out your hats, primary crash, and ride. Cheap kits with good cymbals sound far better than cheap cymbals on expensive kits.
3: Get the snare you want (get a nice snare). Don't compromise.

I could use some guidance on the hats and the snare. I can probably sort out the crash cymbal.
What are the most commonly used Blues snares and hats ?

4: Buy used.
It seems that I need some guidance with everything except for the ride cymbal.
What is worth waiting for on the S/H market?.

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The advice given is good. when you say blues, how big is the group you play with? If it is 2-4 players, you might consider the "jazz" kits for drum sizes. Honestly, it is more about head selection and tuning for jazz/blues style. this is particularly true with the snare. A 5" deep snare with good wires, and a coated single ply head is a good place to start. I happen to favor Ludwig or Gretsch for that type of sound, but there are many good makers.
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Old 06-19-2014, 03:36 PM
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The advice given is good. when you say blues, how big is the group you play with? If it is 2-4 players, you might consider the "jazz" kits for drum sizes. Honestly, it is more about head selection and tuning for jazz/blues style. this is particularly true with the snare. A 5" deep snare with good wires, and a coated single ply head is a good place to start. I happen to favor Ludwig or Gretsch for that type of sound, but there are many good makers.
Thanks Mandrew

Agree KamaK gave me a good advice.
It's pretty embarrassing how little I really know about equipment though.

I don't play drums with anyone yet. Practising and playing along with mp3s.
But yes, I would like to play in small groups.

So 5" Ludwig or Gretsch with a coated single ply...I'll mark it down.
Any particular model Ludwig or Gretsch ?

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Old 06-19-2014, 04:05 PM
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Firstly,you can play Blues on ANY drum kit.Drum builders don't sit down at the drawing board,and say to themselves....HHMMMM ,lets build a Blues drum kit.It's all about tuning and head selection.A 20x14 or 22x14 bass drum will sound best in that situation.Stay away from deeper bass drums...period.You need something punchy,and deep bass drums just don't do the trick.

Secondly,a decent snare is TOTALLY subjective.You can get great sound out of a used Ludwig acrolite,or a Pearl sensitone.Both can be had used for around 100 or a little more,US.

Cymbals,again,almost any brand of medium weight cymbals will do.I love vintage 60-70s Zildjians or Paistes for that typical blues sound.Zildjian new beats hats,and Paiste sound edge 2002 hats are ,without a doubt ,the industry standard

Nearly every drummer you ask here,will recommend the brand of drums...HE prefers,so forget brand loyalty.But used if you can,and stick with the major manufacturers,and put custom kits out of the mix,altogether

Lastly,there is no advanced beginner,thats like saying...almost pregnant.You're a novice drummer,and it dosen't matter how great a sax player you are.Drums are a different instrument altogether.In the beginning,they seem easy to play,but you'll soon find out,they are difficult to master.

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Old 06-19-2014, 04:27 PM
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If it were me in your position I'd think about spending 500 to 800 on a kit and the rest on cymbals. Gumtree is probably your best bet for the kit. There's a few on there in the Perth area that could fit the bill. There's a Tama Artstar in Gidgie that looks pretty good with snare.

For cymbals I'd go new. You can rock up to the store and try everything out. I tend to like cymbals that have a good spread, that is hats pretty high freq, followed by crash and the ride lower...but crashable if you're gonna play a 3 cymbal set-up. Everyone might tell you to get the cymbals used, but that's a crapshoot. I like to try before I buy.

One way to do it is to get a cheaper kit, like the Artstar so you know what sizes you're gonna have, and then cruise into the store of your choice. You'll want to get all new heads for it, tops and bottoms. I usually frequent MegaMusic in Myaree. They're good blokes and are pretty helpful. Ask for Daz or Arun, (said like Arroon). Tell 'em Todd from Denmark sent ya. Not that this will get you any special deals necessarily but I've spend a bit of coin in there recently so they may hook you up.
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Ha, ha, ha..."Advance Beginner" is more of a windsurfing phrase.
Where you are over the basic learning phase, and can go fast, but struggling with fluidity. Can't turns or water-starts, and struggling to get into straps...

I didn't know what the appropriate drummer's level is.
I've been playing 30 minutes a day for about 10 months.
"Novice drummer" works for me.

>>>A 20x14 or 22x14 bass drum will sound best in that situation.
Thanks, noted.

>>>.You can get great sound out of a used Ludwig acrolite,or a Pearl sensitone.
That should work for me.

>>>Zildjian new beats hats,and Paiste sound edge 2002 hats are ,
>>without a doubt ,the industry standard
Great. Exactly what I was hoping to learn.
I'll read up on these .

>>>they seem easy to play,but you'll soon find out,they are difficult to master.
Sorry if I left a cocky impression. I never thought they are easy to master.
I just surprised myself that I could play them at all.

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Old 06-19-2014, 04:40 PM
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Cheers Todd

>>Gumtree is probably your best bet for the kit.
I'm glad you can see Gumtree here. Very practical.

There is MegaMusic in Wangara too. They are a bit closer. I buy stuff of them too, and can try the cymbals. The cymbals are funny. Two of the same kind sound different.

Appreciate all advice. Building the picture slowly.

Hmm, going top check that Tama advertisement now..
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Old 06-19-2014, 04:47 PM
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There is MegaMusic in Wangara too. They are a bit closer. I buy stuff of them too, and can try the cymbals. The cymbals are funny. Two of the same kind sound different.
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That's what I mean. Pick what you like, because you can put your hands and ears to it. In my experience these guys will give you a bit to integrate your sound. That is if you purchase a cymbal because you like it in the store, but take it home an it doesn't fit what your going for they'll give your the $ value for another...or at least they should. I find the store to be a very hard place to get exactly what I want. The room makes more of a difference than the item.
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Another helpful hint is to start a quickie spreadsheet.

Example:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing


This will help you make budget and give you a good idea of where you can trim.

My limited understanding is that almost any kit (jazz, rock, etc) can be used for blues, and that blues is primarily about touch (and coated heads for brushes). Possibly someone else can chime in that has more experience.

Just saw that your profile says Australia, and I'm afraid us lucky Americans will not be fully sympathetic when it comes to price information. For example, I can go out an buy a used Acrolite "right now" for $125 10 minutes from my house.

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Old 06-19-2014, 05:28 PM
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Bearing edges. It doesn't matter what wood, what thickness, who made them and how expensive they were if the bearing edges are damaged or not smooth you can't tune them well. Same goes for out of round shells.

I agree with the advice about the snare. We all spend way too much time discussing, tuning and deliberating over toms, but the snare and bass drums are obviously the most important. You can get good sounds out of both easily with a bit of knowledge and some new heads and snares. I always put new snares on as the wires stretch over time.

Check out the drum tuning bible and the myriad of online videos to help with tuning.

Fortunately, with a budget of $2000 you can get some iconic top end kits:

Yamaha 9000 or original Maple Customs
Mapex Saturn
Anything by Ludwig or Gretch

In fact, the list of what to avoid would probably be shorter. If you get a decent Birch, Maple, Oak or acrylic shell (did I miss any) you can't go wrong. Exterior finish is irrelevant and doesn't affect sound much, if at all.
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Bearing edges. It doesn't matter what wood, what thickness, who made them and how expensive they were if the bearing edges are damaged or not smooth you can't tune them well. Same goes for out of round shells.

I agree with the advice about the snare. We all spend way too much time discussing, tuning and deliberating over toms, but the snare and bass drums are obviously the most important. You can get good sounds out of both easily with a bit of knowledge and some new heads and snares. I always put new snares on as the wires stretch over time.

Check out the drum tuning bible and the myriad of online videos to help with tuning.

Fortunately, with a budget of $2000 you can get some iconic top end kits:

Yamaha 9000 or original Maple Customs
Mapex Saturn
Anything by Ludwig or Gretch

In fact, the list of what to avoid would probably be shorter. If you get a decent Birch, Maple, Oak or acrylic shell (did I miss any) you can't go wrong. Exterior finish is irrelevant and doesn't affect sound much, if at all.
I'd love to fly with you here mate, but not in Australia. Everything here is twice the price...full stop...even used. And the bloke is looking for cymbals too. You might get iconic Gretsch Catalina Clubs or Ludwig Elements, but other than that it's pretty slim pickings. Pearl is big over here, but Visions at $1200 is kinda tough to swallow if you know what I mean.
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I'd love to fly with you here mate, but not in Australia. Everything here is twice the price...full stop...even used. And the bloke is looking for cymbals too. You might get iconic Gretsch Catalina Clubs or Ludwig Elements, but other than that it's pretty slim pickings. Pearl is big over here, but Visions at $1200 is kinda tough to swallow if you know what I mean.
Ah, that sucks then. I thought it was hard enough when I moved back to England from America. I can't move down under then. Not if its that grim LOL
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Old 06-20-2014, 02:35 AM
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Thanks a lot guys, I'll build a spreadsheet as suggested and slowly fill it in.
The way I see it, the cymbals and the hi-hat with the hardware will cost me $1000.

This is a summary of all your advice:

General
Buy cymbals and snare first then the shells. Wait for an opportunity to buy S/H
Look for new cymbals.
Obtain the drum tunning bible.

Snare:
5" snare if possible
Coated single ply head
Ludwig or Gresch could be suitable
Ludwig Acrolite or Pearl Senistone would work

Bass Drum
20x14 or 22x14 bass drum. Should not be deep.

Hi-hats
Zildjian New Beats or Paiste Sound Edge 2002 - industry standard

Cymbals
Any brand medium weight. Vintage 60-70 Zildjans good for that sort of music.

Some iconic top end kits:
Yamaha 9000 or original Maple Customs
Mapex Saturn
Anything by Ludwig or Gretch
Gretch Renown
Catalina Clubs
A decent Birch, Maple, Oak or acrylic shell all good

I'll now wait for an opportunity to get S/H gear.
Appreciate your advice very much

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Here is my preference.

Big crashes and crash rides, on the darker side.

Brass snare drum.

Birch or Bubinga shells, thinner the better. 22" bass drum. I would go with a 3 or 4 toms. One of the toms has got to be small.

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Old 06-20-2014, 08:09 AM
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Here is my preference.
Big crashes and crash rides, on the darker side.
Brass snare drum.
Birch or Bubinga shells, thinner the better. 22" bass drum. I would go with a 3 or 4 toms. One of the toms has got to be small.
Cheers Sketchtrack

Big Crashes - I'll mark that too. That's the least clear area for me. I tried many crashes in the shops and nothing really got my attention.
Would a crash ride eliminate the need for multiple cymbals?

Bubinga, will read up on that.

You got me confused with the brass snare.
I remember my marching band days, where the snare drummer used the brass snare.
The sound was extremely strong.
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You got me confused with the brass snare.
I remember my marching band days, where the snare drummer used the brass snare.
The sound was extremely strong.
Here's a good comparison of some classic snare sounds to help you decide. There are a few brass snares in the vid. Take a listen, and then have a listen to some of your favorite blues tracks, and see if you can narrow down what you're after. There's also a vid with some more modern snares for comparison.

If you can list a track that you like the snare sound on, we can certainly play "name that snare" and have a 6 page awesome-sauce argument about it.

Disclosure: I play an LB417 (anodized Nickel over Brass) so I'm biased and not in a position to recommend one over the other.

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Mapex Saturn.

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Here's a picture of about as blues a drum kit as you'll ever need to see. This is Little Walter's band, I think it's Hound Dog Taylor on guitar, Dave Myers on bass and I don't know who the drummer is.

It looks like a Sonor kit, with a 20" bass drum, 16" floor tom, I can't see the rack tom.

A basic 4 piece kit with a ride, a crash and hats is what you want. It's how you play the drums that make it sound blues.

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Cheers Sketchtrack

Big Crashes - I'll mark that too. That's the least clear area for me. I tried many crashes in the shops and nothing really got my attention.
Would a crash ride eliminate the need for multiple cymbals?

Bubinga, will read up on that.

You got me confused with the brass snare.
I remember my marching band days, where the snare drummer used the brass snare.
The sound was extremely strong.
The thing about cymbals is that it isn't until you are playing with a band that you really appreciate them in their full glory, and even then, it depends on the song and key the song is in which cymbal sounds the best along with it. I ride on almost all of my cymbals at some point, and my cymbal work and choice is very song dependent, so it's nice to have a few good sounding larger cymbals to choose from. And I love to crash on large cymbals as well, you get more of a sweeter and musical tone from them than from small thin crashes, which I think can be a little harsh.

If you can, it would be best to have the guy at the music shop let you test out a set of cymbals while playing to a few background tracks. Otherwise it can be easy to make mistakes picking out cymbals.

If I could only have 3 cymbals. I would get a nice ride, a 17 or 18 inch crash ride, and a 16 inch crash.

Metal snares are a little louder than wood snares. I like the twang I get out of them when doing rim shots. I think it gives you a little more ability to play more expressively and musically when used well. And the loudness is a plus sometimes when with a band. If you have the control, you can play quiet as well though. I have played with my brass snare along with a piano and acoustic guitar before. I also like steel snares. I used to have an old ludwig steel snare that I really liked.

I think it is important to actually test out the drums before you buy them. Probably more important than brand, model, material, etc, is the dimensions of each drum and how that factors into the kit as a whole. You want to know the tones each drum produce in relation to each other drum.
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Look for new cymbals.
Cheers
Nothing wrong with used cymbals if you purchase from a reputable dealer. Check out used Zildjian K or Spizzichino cymbals. These are top quality and command high prices.

I would recommend getting a 22" ride and either 14" or 15" hihats. Add one crash cymbal and that is all you need to get started ($600 - $800). If you choose right, you will keep this trio for the rest of your life.

For example:

22" Paiste ride ($280)
http://www.hazelshould.com/products/cymbals/paiste/6762

or a less expensive but great sounding ride:
20" Zildjian ($150)
http://www.hazelshould.com/products/.../zildjian/6720

Zildjian 14" hihats ($170)
http://www.hazelshould.com/products/.../zildjian/6788

Paiste "20" Crash ($215)
http://www.hazelshould.com/products/cymbals/paiste/6759

With the money you save by buying used cymbals, you can get a very good used kit:

Slingerland with snare 18/12/13/14/5.5 ($1379)
http://www.maxwelldrums.com/slingerl...m-p-11087.html

The sound files from Steve and Gerry are very accurate too so you will have a pretty good idea of what you will hear when you receive the cymbals and drums.

All this for around $2000; you will have a kit most pros would be proud of!

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Mapex Saturn ...had a look and it popped up with 20-30 combos. All looking quite nice.

Construct,
The Little Walter's band drum kit is looking fine to me too.

Sketchtrack
test out the drums before you buy them.
I think so too. Not only the sound but the ergonomics too.
That relationship cymbal-song ...I guess there is no end in collecting gear...:-(

Skulmoski
It was very useful to compare the sounds. Thanks for that.
I spent a lot of time listening to the snares. The Pearl little one really sounded nice.
I'll spend more time tomorrow listening to the cymbals.

There is nothing wrong with the S/H cymbals.
I think Sonnygrabber wanted to say that you should be able to hear it and compare, and possibly replace if you change your mind.
Visiting people at homes is laborious, just o find that it's not good for you, and there is no warranty or return.

I think I'll prioritise now.
The hi-hat hardware to start with, then the snare, then the cymbals, then the rest.

I have a nice list of things to look for now. Really appreciate everyone's time.
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Old 06-20-2014, 06:32 PM
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Obelix, you may want to consider that with a snare drum you have a myriad of head choices and loads of tuning choices at your disposal. Sure it's perhaps the drum you will be using the most but you can vary the sound enormously with a bit of effort. Cymbals on the other hand are mostly static. That is, you get what you get, and there is nothing you can change about it unless you are willing to take a hammer to it, (don't). Find some bronze that you like to hit your way.

I very much appreciate what the fellas are saying about those cymbals online. And I would probably be willing to drop my coin on a few, but that's after 26 years of playing and over 20 years gigging pretty seriously. So much about playing is about how you play and not what what you play. Go and hit some cymbals in the store. Sure there may be better deals online but you cannot hit them yourself. We all have our own unique way, and we should embrace that. There is a lot of bravado on here regarding brands and set-ups but really it's all so individual.
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Old 06-21-2014, 11:36 AM
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Thanks Sonnygrabber,

It's interesting to hear different sounds on internet.
Helps quite a bit to narrow down what you are not interested in, however I would still like to hit that cymbal myself, and decide that I can't live without it :-)

Listening to snares also helped me to understand that I would like a 5" or less.
So it was quite useful good.

I was thinking of going to MegaMusic today, but the wind picked up, and I ended up windsurfing instead :-)

I understand people are passionate about their preferred brand. And they should be.
I have very strong opinions on sax brands, mouthpieces, etc.
These work for me really well, but may not necessarily work for other people.
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