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Old 03-13-2014, 08:20 PM
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Default Why order steak well done?

I've googled this, and can't find a real answer that makes since, so I decided to look into personal answers. I was just spending some time at the grill, and I thought surely I can't be the only fellow here who enjoys a big juicy slab of beef. So if any of you order, or even prepare your steak well-done at home, what is your reasoning behind it?

Personally, how I order or prepare my steak has a lot to do with my mood or where I'm eating, but it always falls between medium rare and medium , but never further than that. If I'm eating at home, I usually cook it around medium rare because I know where the meat is coming from and where my hands have been, but if it cooks a little more, or sometimes even a little less I'm okay with it. But when I'm at a restaraunt, unless it's a place I've been eating at for years, I always order it medium simply because I don't know who is touching it or where the meat comes from.

I did order a steak well-done just once to try it, and I honestly couldn't find any qualities I liked in it. The flavor was gone, it was hard to chew, and it really just seemed to me like a wasted piece of beef.

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Old 03-13-2014, 08:31 PM
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I'm almost entirely vegetarian, but I'll have a steak at a good place about once a year or so.

As such, I don't do cheap steaks. When I'm going to do it, I go to the best steakhouse I can get to, spend 50 bucks on a slab of meat, and expect it to be clean and free of things that will make me sick, so that's not a worry.

Med-rare, to Med, depending on mood, but never higher than medium. Rare is a bit too much for me to handle.
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Old 03-13-2014, 08:35 PM
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This reminds me of a quote I heard of a friend's interaction with a guitarist.

"You're playing power chords in jazz. That's like painting white on canvas."

You just ruin all of the good qualities of a steak when you cook it well done. It just becomes bland and tough. Ew.
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Old 03-13-2014, 08:52 PM
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I like my steak also,and though I'll mozy over to Peter Lugers once in a while,I'll for the most part.cook my own.There's a very good Italian Salumaria/Butchers shop close by where he sells USDA Prime aged steaks,roasts,chops and lamb.All of his meat is dry aged,marbled beef.and sells for 25 dollars a pound.

I had a great porterhouse a few weeks ago,but I guess my taste in doneness is different from you guys.I blot the steak dry,and just add some sea salt and fresh ground black/white/green pepper,over a VERY hot flame.The steaks are usually 1 3/4 -2 inches thick,buy they are cooked just a few minutes on each side.This results in a flavorful crust on the outside,and very tender rare to very rare on the inside.Served with steamed broccoli or asparigus in olive oil and sauted garlic and baked potato,sometimes mashed.

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I read too much about food poisoning and such and wish to take no chances. Well done may be over kill but thats how I like it. It can be well done with out being bland and tough. The thing is to know when it reaches well done and not past that to hockey puck done. I do burgers the same way. No pink in the middle. Just my preference. I don't want to hear it moo when I put my knife to it.
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:28 PM
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In my experience, most people who prefer a rare steak never really developed a taste for it. Most children prefer a well done steak, I know I used to, and then start to prefer it more rare as they get older. I love a nice rare steak, getting hungry reading Steve's post. The other reasons could be a fear of food poisoning like Grunt mentioned or an aversion to the look of meat juice which some sad people think looks like blood. I love a good medium burger, cooked to an actual medium with a little pink in the middle. I reserve that for a nicer place though.

People do the same thing with pork, they're terrified food poisoning so they cook it till its drier than an Arizona summer. That's not good eatin!
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I live in Texas so I always order mine medium-well knowing I will get a medium to medium-rare steak. ;-)
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:29 PM
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IME, the main reason why people like their steak well done is because they don't like the blood that oozes out of it if it isn't. Also IME, the poorer-quality the steak, the more cooked it should be. Good steak becomes tougher the more it's cooked; not-so-good becomes less tough.

I like mine still mooing.
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:34 PM
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My wife orders filet mignon and orders it WELL. It kills me. But she won't eat it with even a spec of pink in it.

I eat my steak as rare as rare could be. If it's medium rare to me it's over cooked.
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:42 PM
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Why indeed.

I don't get it either. But then again, I guess don't have to. I'm not the one who has to chew on it for hours. I remember being in a restaurant years ago and the chef actually came out and explained to one of the customers why it's preferable to cook it a little less. Ultimately, it didn't sway them from ordering and he cooked it for them anyway. But it was an interesting spiel nonetheless.

The opposite is just as intriguing though. I have a mate who always orders his steaks blue. Honestly, it looks like a good vet could have saved the bloody thing. Still, he likes it. I guess that's all that matters.
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:45 PM
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I live in Texas so I always order mine medium-well knowing I will get a medium to medium-rare steak. ;-)
I was wondering about that. Obviously TX is a big ol' state but everyone there enjoys a good steak. I was going to ask how they tend to enjoy their steaks in the Lone Star state. Rare?

I have the opposite problem when I go out to eat. I always order rarer that I would like because they always cook it longer that I asked for. Medium rare comes out medium.
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:46 PM
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My 1st wife used to order any meat ruined. I mean well done.

Just before medium rare for me.

Pink, soft and flavorful.
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Old 03-13-2014, 10:12 PM
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I won't order a steak well done. Not ever.

Medium-rare is the most I want mine cooked. If I have doubts about the quality or handling of the meat that concerns me enough not to order it medium-rare, I simply don't order a steak at all and get something else entirely.

If it's truly a great steak, I prefer rare. Even Pittsburgh-rare!
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IME, the main reason why people like their steak well done is because they don't like the blood that oozes out of it if it isn't.
Almost irrespective of how rare the steak is, it shouldn't ooze blood. Any good cook knows a steak should be rested before serving. If it's sufficiently rested, it doesn't ooze. If I'm ever served something like that in a restaurant, it goes back for a replacement.

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Almost irrespective of how rare the steak is, it shouldn't ooze blood. Any good cook knows a steak should be rested before serving. If it's sufficiently rested, it doesn't ooze. If I'm ever served something like that in a restaurant, it goes back for a replacement.

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Old 03-14-2014, 03:26 AM
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A good steak is medium-rare to rare and needs no sauce. If I ask for steak sauce, it means the steak SUCKS. I use a little seasoning on each side before cooking and thats it.
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Old 03-14-2014, 06:36 AM
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I haven't had a steak in over 20 years.

In my early 20's, I was rehearsing 3 times a week with a prog-metal band.

I noticed nights I had beef for dinner, getting through rehearsals was tough. Nights I had chicken for dinner, getting through rehearsal was no problem.

So I decided drums were more important than beef, and that was that.
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Long time since I had a steak. From memory (such as it is) I used to prefer my dead cow chunks well done and didn't mind a bit of burning - I especially liked the crispy bits.
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Old 03-14-2014, 01:07 PM
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When I'm doing real steak, I like it no more than medium, and usually medium rare, but with the outside flamed so I get just a hint of the charred taste. When I do carne asada (which is often, since I'm Mexican-in-law), I like it slightly well-done so that the char on the edges is pronounced but the center of the meat is usually still about medium.

Yeah, well-done is a poor cook and a poor gourmand.
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Another way I like to cook a steak at home is in the broiler.

Turn the broiler on high.

Put the steak on a broiler-safe pan and move the oven rack to the spot closest to the top element without touching it.

Broil for 5 minutes

Flip and broil for 5 more

Rest for 5 minutes.

Fantastic!

The grill pan is by far the best stovetop method though.
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Old 03-14-2014, 07:57 PM
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I never did understand well-done steaks. I want mine to moo when I stick a fork in it.
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:27 PM
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In the Midwest it is almost a crime to order a steak anything more than medium rare. When I waited tables and a customer would ask for his or her steak well done or with steak sauce I would always think to myself - 'he ain't from round here'... I was almost always right.

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Medium-rare for me too. Anything more and you might as well slap some ketsup on it.
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Steak should be cooked in a variety of ways, despite the current fashion, some people prefer it well done.

I don't subscribe to the rare or med-rare is the only way philosophy it all depends on the quality of meat and what it is or is not served with and the individuals taste buds. To bring this back to the drum world it's a bit like saying everyone should like and use single ply coated and no one should use pinstripes.

In actual fact pinstripes can be rather good and some people like a well done steak.

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Never heard of a rare or medium rare Philly Cheese Steak. Well done baby.
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Never heard of a rare or medium rare Philly Cheese Steak. Well done baby.
I've sampled Philly cheese steaks a few times in the past, & have an invoice from the consultant cardiologist to prove it :(
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I'm with you on that.When I said rare,I mean,with CPR..it could have lived.Steak sauce is for people who put ketsup on a good hot dog,and call that Food?.I'm German,and if you put ...ketsup on a hot dog,you were an alien ,and shunned by family and friends,and put in the stocks.Sacrilidge!!!!

Mustard on dogs,spicey brown or(ugh) yellow,with fresh Kraut.I know the Chi Town crowd is going ballistic,but,we really know ,the true Coney Island/NY dog(Nathans or Greys Papya)...is the best .:):)Let the flaming begin.Sorry for the OT.

Filet Minon...well?The have meds for that now.:):)

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Yeah I don't get it. If I want something dry and tough I will eat a shoe.

Hot dogs definitely do not get ketchup. I can't do the sauerkraut, but mustard, cheese, and wasabi fits the bill just fine.

I would rather eat a well cooked pork chop than a well cooked steak any day of the week.
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Hot dogs do so get ketchup. And I'm German too! Must be a Philly thing. Is ketchup OK on hamburgers? Cause I do that too.
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I take my hot dog condiment cues from Harry Callahan.

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Hot dogs do so get ketchup. And I'm German too! Must be a Philly thing. Is ketchup OK on hamburgers? Cause I do that too.
Yep, ketchup on hot dogs here in Oz.....and on burgers too.

Although we don't call it ketchup, we call it tomato sauce......or just sauce for short. As in, "I'll have a hot dog with sauce and mustard please" or "do you want sauce on your burger?"
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Jules, is your main sauce in Oz Heinz like it is here in most of the US? Does it say ketchup anywhere on the bottle down there? I wonder what would happen if I ordered a hot dog with sauce and mustard in Philly. I wonder what "sauce" they would default to, or would they ask me what the hell I was talking about.

In Philly, it's common to get the works...ketchup (sauce), mustard, relish, onions, sauerkraut, and then you get your occasional baked beans topping. I love them but only eat them on occasions. Guilty pleasure. They are great outdoors in the summer on a grill or over a fire with friends and kids. With ketchup on them. Mustard overpowers the savory nature of the hot dog lol. Like I wouldn't put mustard on steak either. But mustard spices up the more bland philly pretzel.

So for you die hard mustard sympathizers, riddle me this....Would you put mustard on your steak? Well, would you? Punk?
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I don't like ketchup on my fries. Not on my dogs either. I only like it on burgers and hard-boiled eggs and cottage cheese.

I order my steaks medium too, but I can't even remember the last time I ate a slab of beef as a "steak". I usually have slices of beef from a roast or a tri-tip. My beef usually comes in the form of Carne Asada or Barbacoa. You don't have to tell 'em how to cook that.
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Jules, is your main sauce in Oz Heinz like it is here in most of the US? Does it say ketchup anywhere on the bottle down there?
We have several different brands including Heinz, who actually make a regular "tomato sauce" as well as a "tomato ketchup" both of which are widely available.

But you'll still find that the vast majority of us will call it sauce, even if we're holding a bottle labelled Heinz tomato ketchup. I've never heard anyone at an Aussie bbq say "can you pass the ketchup?"
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The Detroit Coney Island is our local version of the hot dog. Chili, mustard and onions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coney_Island_hot_dog

I do enjoy the NY-style dogs with kraut and the Chicago "dragged through the garden" versions, too. Here's a couple of Coneys from Lafayette, one of the big Detroit joints:




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