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Old 02-12-2014, 08:14 PM
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Default Evans Hydro Blue/Black difference?

I'm looking at new batter heads for my toms, and was wanting to know the difference (besides price) of the Evans Hydro Black and Hydro Blue?
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Old 02-12-2014, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: Evans Hydro Blue/Black difference?

Color.

Sorry, I'm trying hard to to be a smart ass, but other than the color (clear, transparent blue, or opaque black) they're all the same. Two 7-mil plies with oil in-between.

Black heads are more expensive in general because (I'm guessing) it actually takes quite a lot of black dye to make plastic totally opaque black.
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Old 02-12-2014, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: Evans Hydro Blue/Black difference?

Also, only buy those if you want your toms to sound completely and utterly dead.
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Old 02-13-2014, 02:58 PM
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Color.

Sorry, I'm trying hard to to be a smart ass, but other than the color (clear, transparent blue, or opaque black) they're all the same. Two 7-mil plies with oil in-between.

Black heads are more expensive in general because (I'm guessing) it actually takes quite a lot of black dye to make plastic totally opaque black.
The Hydraulic Black is actually 7.5mil black and 6.5mil clear. This black film is pigmented, not dyed. The Hydraulic Blue is two plies of identical 7mil blue. The blue is a bit more open/resonant, whereas the black is the fattest-sounding, with the shortest sustain.

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Old 02-13-2014, 05:50 PM
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The Hydraulic Black is actually 7.5mil black and 6.5mil clear. This black film is pigmented, not dyed. The Hydraulic Blue is two plies of identical 7mil blue. The blue is a bit more open/resonant, whereas the black is the fattest-sounding, with the shortest sustain.

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Old 02-14-2014, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: Evans Hydro Blue/Black difference?

Hmm, so the Black Chromes are basically Hydraulic Blacks with a .5mil thicker clear ply (according to this) and no oil? Interesting.
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:53 PM
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Hmm, so the Black Chromes are basically Hydraulic Blacks with a .5mil thicker clear ply (according to this) and no oil? Interesting.
It's not quite that simple. The 7mil clear film is very different from the 6.5mil. In addition, the 7mil clear ply of the Black Chrome is on the top, as opposed to the Hydraulic that includes it on the bottom. There is much for to films than just the thickness :-)
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: Evans Hydro Blue/Black difference?

I use these on my toms on non close mic gigs! One overhead, mic on snare and bass. Denis
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:11 AM
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It's not quite that simple. The 7mil clear film is very different from the 6.5mil. In addition, the 7mil clear ply of the Black Chrome is on the top, as opposed to the Hydraulic that includes it on the bottom. There is much for to films than just the thickness :-)
Oh, okay. I figured you meant "clear" on both of them like the Genera Reso clear film as opposed to the G1 'clear' (a little hazy) film, but obviously that is not the case.
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Old 02-15-2014, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: Evans Hydro Blue/Black difference?

I use nothing but Evans blue hydraulic on all of my Zickos drums, though there may be one or more original Zickos heads still on but those were made by Evans. I like the way they sound and the way they look. IMHO they are not too dead sounding.
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