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Old 04-27-2014, 05:20 PM
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with a broken bass drum pedal. The spring on my Speed Cobra broke half way through our first set last night. You'd think the dumbass singer/leader of the band would have taken a 10 minute break so I could fix it but no. We did 8 more songs without a bass drum.

Luckily I had read here about the propensity for these springs to break so I had an extra with me. I had done about 30 gigs with the old spring but last night was it. If you play a Speed Cobra, make sure you've got an extra spring with you.
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:56 PM
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with a broken bass drum pedal. The spring on my Speed Cobra broke half way through our first set last night. You'd think the dumbass singer/leader of the band would have taken a 10 minute break so I could fix it but no. We did 8 more songs without a bass drum.

Luckily I had read here about the propensity for these springs to break so I had an extra with me. I had done about 30 gigs with the old spring but last night was it. If you play a Speed Cobra, make sure you've got an extra spring with you.
I haven't heard that at all. I've played a Speed Cobra for a couple years now with no issues.

I don't play rock with it though so that may have something to do with it. What kind of tension do you have on your pedal?

Still, it's always a good idea to have such things in an emergency kit.
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Old 04-27-2014, 06:11 PM
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Sold my falcons but they break springs too (I broke one).

Must be a crappy spring manufacturer out there.
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Old 04-27-2014, 07:57 PM
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My tension isn't very high. The Speed Cobra uses the "Super Spring" which Tama says reduces the necessary exertion in the beginning of the stroke and has a quicker rebound. I had read here that the material used is more brittle and is prone to breaking. That's why I always keep an extra spring with me.

I don't play hard or super fast but the pedal gets a workout at each gig. Just sharing my experience.
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Old 04-27-2014, 08:08 PM
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Oh man good thing you had a second spring, But why wouldn't the singer give you a bit of time to fix the broken pedal?
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Old 04-27-2014, 08:11 PM
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Oh man good thing you had a second spring, But why wouldn't the singer give you a bit of time to fix the broken pedal?
Just what I was thinking.
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Old 04-27-2014, 08:22 PM
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Oh man good thing you had a second spring, But why wouldn't the singer give you a bit of time to fix the broken pedal?
Because he's an asshat.
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:20 PM
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Because he's an asshat.
If his microphone ever fails you absolutely must insist you carry on with the set! Don't stop playing, play the intro to a song, do whatever it takes to make him look a dick.
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:51 PM
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Because he's an asshat.
Exactly that. In 25 years of playing gigs, never broke a spring; that sucks that you had to play that long with no bass drum. After reading this I'll be sure to bring spare. Ever broke one before?
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You did have the option at the end of the song that it broke on to just go fix it and oh well about the singer. No way could I do 8 songs without a bass drum. You are a very tolerant person.
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:34 PM
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Exactly that. In 25 years of playing gigs, never broke a spring; that sucks that you had to play that long with no bass drum. After reading this I'll be sure to bring spare. Ever broke one before?
Nope, this is the 1st time.

Dodeska, this guy is a case study in what it's like to work for a dick. He micro-manages everything I play. And I mean EVERYTHING. Last night, I did a slight cymbal swell at the end of a song. It was totally appropriate. He grabbed by cymbal and gave me a dirty look. That's only a taste of what it's like.

Why do I put up with it? Steady, good paying gigs.
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Is he like that with all the band or just you?
You're a better man than me. If he treated me like that he'd have been attending A&E to get his microphone surgically removed.
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:55 PM
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Oh man good thing you had a second spring, But why wouldn't the singer give you a bit of time to fix the broken pedal?
Man you gotta make the time to do that. Tell them to do an acoustic thing or to talk to the crowd. Don't let them run you over.
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Old 04-28-2014, 12:18 AM
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Is he like that with all the band or just you?
You're a better man than me. If he treated me like that he'd have been attending A&E to get his microphone surgically removed.
Dodeska, he's like that with everyone in the band, pretty much. As you know, the drums are the most obvious instrument so we're an easy target.

The fact is, it's easy to say anything along the lines of "tell him to shove it up his ass". Believe me, i get that. There's pride involved.

However, I'm trying to make a living playing drums. I teach and I play. I can't afford to give up what will likely be 30 gigs or more this year. I never got anywhere in life telling someone to shove it. Even if they deserved it.
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Old 04-28-2014, 12:21 AM
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Man you gotta make the time to do that. Tell them to do an acoustic thing or to talk to the crowd. Don't let them run you over.
BillRay, the leader of this band gets all the gigs and decides who plays. The gigs pay well. I'm a hired hand. I don't "tell" anyone what to do. I do what's asked of me. That said, I'd love to punch him in the face, but I won't. Because I'm a pro. And, at least in part, that's what being a pro means to me. Putting up with whatever I have to in order to do what I love.
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:18 AM
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That's where doing a little of Trilok Gurtu comes in handy.
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Old 04-28-2014, 08:27 AM
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Exactly that. In 25 years of playing gigs, never broke a spring; that sucks that you had to play that long with no bass drum. After reading this I'll be sure to bring spare. Ever broke one before?
I never broke springs either until I got the SC's. They have a sharp crease where the hook is on the ends. They always break there. I bought a Gibraltar spring and and that stopped that. It still feels the same too. I also carry spares now.
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Old 04-28-2014, 08:31 AM
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BillRay, the leader of this band gets all the gigs and decides who plays. The gigs pay well. I'm a hired hand. I don't "tell" anyone what to do. I do what's asked of me. That said, I'd love to punch him in the face, but I won't. Because I'm a pro. And, at least in part, that's what being a pro means to me. Putting up with whatever I have to in order to do what I love.
I've been in your shoes...hell I'm STILL in them! But if the guy is not hip to the fact that without a bass drum pedal the gig sounds kinda thin... carry a spare?

I used to break DW5000 springs because I would torque them so tight and throw the pedal back to 90; I still do that but the tension is far less so the springs quit popping on me.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:36 PM
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He did carry a spare. But if the vocalist won't give him the time to play the bass drum, I'd say screw him and not play the bass drum. His gig anyway.
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Old 04-28-2014, 06:01 PM
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Exactly Reggae.

So just a word to the wise. If you play this pedal, it's a very good idea to have a spare spring. In fact, the new spring I put on is the standard Tama spring. Needed to adjust the pedal a bit but the action is still very good. You may want to just change out the spring.
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Old 04-28-2014, 06:16 PM
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If I were you, I would have just gotten up from the throne after the end of the song and immediately started fixing the problem. They can't exactly finish the set without a drummer.
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Old 04-28-2014, 06:25 PM
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If I were you, I would have just gotten up from the throne after the end of the song and immediately started fixing the problem. They can't exactly finish the set without a drummer.
That's what I'm saying.

I may do this as a job and get paid, but money is not my primary motivation for playing drums. I would have stopped the show and switched bass drum pedals if there was a spare, regardless of what the singer guy wants.
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