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Old 09-10-2014, 11:55 PM
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Default Old school rock bass drum setup.

I am hoping some members were around back in the 60's and 70's who remember what the techniques were for the Minimally muffled bass drums that some of the rock guys were using, like Aynsley Dunbar, and Steve Smith on his Orange, and silver phonic kits. I know when he started with Journey, he had 14x24s with Felt strips on both heads, but what was the tensioning on these heads? I know they were not floppy like most people tune these days, and stuff a basket full of laundry inside.
I have been using a rolled up towel on the batter head for 27 years, but I love the sound on the Journey Evolution Album and old live footage.
Here's an example of what. i am talking about. http://youtu.be/IUim3OvDVZM

Looks like pinstripes for reso heads too.
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: Old school rock bass drum setup.

The common set-up in the early 70s was to take the reso head and hoop off, one single strip of felt across the batter head right above or below the beater patch or a pillow / blanket resting against the inside of the batter head with it tuned pretty loosely. Results were a pretty loud "pop" with no resonance or tone. I played such a set-up on both 20" and 22" Ludwig bass drums with neary the same results on each.
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: Old school rock bass drum setup.

The old school guys still liked felt strips, although pillows/blankets were becoming more common by 1970. The trick with using felt strips to capture the old sound, is to avoid today's specialty heads with power collars, or 'dry' heads, even Pinstripes. Get a coated or clear 1-ply, and remember that smooth white was often the stock kick head, and also works nicely.

Tuning was still subjective, but the old school guys had their kicks tighter as a rule and that accounts for the presence and cut those drums tended to have, even though they weren't always close-miked.

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Old 09-16-2014, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: Old school rock bass drum setup.

lots of dudes were using black dots, on kick and snare.
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: Old school rock bass drum setup.

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lots of dudes were using black dots, on kick and snare.
I think your account has been hacked by Bo Eder. :-)
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Default Re: Old school rock bass drum setup.

The Pinstripe head, came out, in 1974. So yeah .... before that, we made our own Ritchie rings, and used felt strips. And lots of people still use those methods, today.
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Default Re: Old school rock bass drum setup.

My bass drum always has a felt strip. Wouldn't leave home without it.
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Old school rock bass drum setup.

Thanks for all the replies Guys! I have my 24 setup with ambassadors, and 3.5" wide felt on each head, i would say a little less than medium tension...sounds really good in a loud, unmic'ed setting,
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:31 AM
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Default Re: Old school rock bass drum setup.

On my 22" Ludwig vistalite from 1976 I took the reso off and used a blanket close but not touching the batter. My 2 ply head was dead enough.
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