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Old 12-14-2013, 07:15 PM
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Default Drumset or Drumkit?

Which do you use when referring to your drums? I always say "drumset". I always thought if you said "drumkit" or "the kit" you are just trying to sound cool.

Please chime in on this very important issue. ; )
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Old 12-14-2013, 07:59 PM
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People are very picky about drum semantics.

When I feel the need to put the word "drum" in the title I refer to it as a drum set. When I am talking to other drummers or guys in my band I will shorten it to "kit." But I would never call it a drum kit, makes it sound like a toy or something.
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Old 12-14-2013, 08:12 PM
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I think it's the very same thing with zero difference. I guess it's pure preference.
Being aware of both terms I would mix them up purely coincidentally.
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Old 12-14-2013, 08:15 PM
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i started off with drumset when i began playing 10 years ago and ended up with drum kit a few years back. but now i just call them "the kit"
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Old 12-14-2013, 09:04 PM
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I sometimes find myself saying or typing kit,but to me,it's a drum set,bass drum,snare,mounted tom,floor tom,and cymbals.

The bass drum was never "kicked" like some think it was.It was always played with a beater,and the snare drum was played with sticks,which is why there were usually 2-3 drummers in an orchestra pit...till the bass drum pedal came along.

So the term " kick" drum,was used erroniously by recording engineers,to differenciate the bass drum mic,(labeled kick)from the bass guitar mic,labeled "bass".

Sorry for the off topic,but it's kind of OT.

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Old 12-14-2013, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: Drumset or Drumkit?

I call it a trap set if there are a lot of percussive elements

I call it a drum set if the shells are the same and a drum set if it is a mix of different brands

I call E-drums pads
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Old 12-14-2013, 10:14 PM
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I prefer schlagzeug.
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Old 12-14-2013, 10:24 PM
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Is it a drum set or a drum kit? Why, actually, yes it is.
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Old 12-14-2013, 10:33 PM
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lol, great replies. I completey forgot about "trap"
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Old 12-14-2013, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: Drumset or Drumkit?

If I am talking, I just say drums. Adding set or kit to the verbal just seems a bit odd to me. "Hey, nice drums!" or "My drums are Pearl Wood-Fiberglass".

Typing, on the other hand, adding kit or set seems rather natural. "That kit in the picture is pretty" or "What drumset is the BEST for disco"?

I never use trap. To me a trap is something set to entangle someone or something.
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I say "my drums" or "those drums"
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I never get into those conversations to begin with ;)
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for years it was my drum set. one guitar player used to say to me " your kit" and it always bugged me. now it seem like i only say kit. its the same thing, i think its British though to say kit. I saw a documentary on the royal horse guard and they talked about cleaning their kit. It was their gear really, helmets, breast plates, boots etc. but they said kit. so drum gear would be a kit i guess? Andy lives near england somewhere under a bridge in the wind chime district, maybe he knows!
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:13 AM
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I call it a "kit" if I'm talking to a musician, or "drums" if I'm talking to anyone else.
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:14 AM
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I never get into those conversations to begin with ;)
You just did! ; )

Actually, now that I think of it, I refer to mine as "my drums"
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:30 AM
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i think its British though to say kit.
Yes, I think it is. I don't think I'd even heard the term "drum set" until I came on here. And I'd certainly never heard "trap" until just now.
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:37 AM
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Like most people here, I would just say "the kit" as well.
Is it just me or does drum set just sound too formal?
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:48 AM
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It's always been "drums" or "drumkit" for me.
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Old 12-15-2013, 01:43 AM
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I just call it "la batterie" :)








Hey Grunt, isn't that thread a bit of a trivial matter?
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: Drumset or Drumkit?

"Trap set" is old school.
I just call it a kit. As in, "nice kit".
More people will know what you mean if you say "drumset" although proper spelling is "drum set" (two words).
If listing for sale on craigslist, just say "drums".
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:38 AM
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Hey Grunt, isn't that thread a bit of a trivial matter?
Don't go there. He cheated on the other thread: he changed LOADS of letters!
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:10 AM
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for years it was my drum set. one guitar player used to say to me " your kit" and it always bugged me. now it seem like i only say kit. its the same thing, i think its British though to say kit. I saw a documentary on the royal horse guard and they talked about cleaning their kit. It was their gear really, helmets, breast plates, boots etc. but they said kit. so drum gear would be a kit i guess? Andy lives near england somewhere under a bridge in the wind chime district, maybe he knows!
Yes, somewhere near Englandshire (for you Americans, that's about 200 miles east of Iranistan - Europe ;)

Someone's kit is a commonly used military term to describe the totality of their personal "gear" necessary for them to perform their duties. I'm guessing that migrated at some stage to encompass drums, or any assembly of items necessary for the task at hand.

"Set" is not a term that would be used generally within drumming circles, except maybe those in the game pre 1960's.
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Old 12-15-2013, 04:19 PM
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I always thought:

USA - drum set

Everyplace else - drum kit

For me, in conversation, they're 'my drums'.
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:13 PM
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lol, great replies. I completey forgot about "trap"
It's only called a "trap" set when you set up in a corner and you can't get out till the rest of the band moves.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:25 PM
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I just call it "la batterie" :)
That's what I was about to say, batterie from the verb battre = to hit, like baseball bat.

French drumming vocabulary is not very extended though.
Charley or charleston = hi hat, but the other cymbals are simply ride, crash, splash.
Tom = tom.
Kick drum = grosse caisse, as in "big case".
Snare drum = caisse claire, as in "clear case".
Head = peau, "skin".
Hardware = simply called hardware, I can't imagine noone bothered to translate that, a French mouth can hardly pronounce that :)

OK I have bored you all enough now :)
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:26 PM
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I more commonly hear them referred to as "drum sets", but I call them kits. I don't know why but to me it just rolls off the tongue better.
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:06 PM
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This http://www.amazon.fr/Batterie-int%C3.../dp/B000ZGDURE is absolutely THE best all-round book I have yet come across.
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That's what I was about to say, batterie from the verb battre = to hit, like baseball bat.

French drumming vocabulary is not very extended though.
Charley or charleston = hi hat, but the other cymbals are simply ride, crash, splash.
Tom = tom.
Kick drum = grosse caisse, as in "big case".
Snare drum = caisse claire, as in "clear case".
Head = peau, "skin".
Hardware = simply called hardware, I can't imagine noone bothered to translate that, a French mouth can hardly pronounce that :)

OK I have bored you all enough now :)
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I just call them my 'no, you can't have a go'.

Straightens things out easily.
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:33 PM
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If you have a chair set or a chair kit, what is the difference? A chair set is a collection of chairs that belong together for one reason or another. A chair kit is something you buy at a store in a box, which contains the parts needed to put together one chair.

I think of drums in the same way. Either you see it as a collection of instruments all played together, like a classical multi-percussionist might view it, or you see it collectively as one instrument (albeit with many "parts" which come together to form the "whole").

Or, more realistically, you call it what you've heard it being called, and what has stuck, kinda like some people say "soda" while other people say "pop."
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:54 PM
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I say drum set, but I really like those old ads that refer to them as "outfits." I'd like to start using that going forward.

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+1 on drum kit being British English vs the US English drum set. I've always called it a drum kit.
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I always say "drumset". I always thought if you said "drumkit" or "the kit" you are just trying to sound cool.

You say tom-ay-to and I say tom-ar-to...........and drum kit.

I've never much cared what anyone else calls the thing though. I know what they mean.
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I use the term "drum array". As in, "Suh-weet drum array there girlfriend!"

Also, I'm not a drummer, I prefer the term rhythmic engineer.

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I'm not a drummer, I prefer the term rhythmic engineer...
So... you're in the traffic control business then...:)

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Old 12-16-2013, 02:04 AM
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I use the term "drum array". As in, "Suh-weet drum array there girlfriend!"
I'm so using that. Maybe I will start calling myself a 'sentient rhythm matrix'.
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I use the term "drum array". As in, "Suh-weet drum array there girlfriend!"

Also, I'm not a drummer, I prefer the term rhythmic engineer.

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How about "beat alchemist"? ; )
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Pas de problemes, Madge peut lire, ecrire et parler en Francais :)

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Le mien non plus, mais il sait ne pas ecrire "francais" avec majuscule ;)

@picodon: yes, but it isn't an easy read! I bought it just to learn drum terminology in French, but it turned out to be a fantastic book in its own right. It's a book for the beginner who takes their drumming VERY seriously, or for any drummer who has gaps in their musical knowledge. My teacher calls it "French porn" - to go with "hand porn" (Stick Control) and "foot porn" (4-Way Co-Ordination).
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in the 70's the Brits i'd read about (Bonzo et al) referred to it as a kit....in America...where i'm is...it was referred to as a set.

as time has gone by, more Americans use the term kit.
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