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Old 10-08-2013, 12:45 PM
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Default Jojo Mayer using Porter & Davies BC Gigster

Just heard that Jojo is using the Porter & Davies BC Gigster on his UK clinic tour. Check out the picture here:
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:55 PM
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Cool - thanks for the info! Just liked them on facebook...

I'm interested in that concept. Having ordered a Carmichael throne (floating spine concept), I'll look into what P&D woofers could be installed to that throne - if any. (Not seeing too much sense to go for the fully fledged P&D solution as long as they don't have any floating spine thrones though.) Just took a look at their website - Fischer Amps from Germany are among the distributors of the thrones offered by/'compatible' with P&D so I might drop them an e-mail for possible retrofitting. Or they might bring out some floating spine throne on their own - that would be pure awesomeness!
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:08 PM
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Thumpers, shakers and kickers have been around for decades, starting probably in the '70s with custom cannister thrones with a driver mounted just under the seat. Without plugging (or unplugging) any brands unless asked, I've been using such devices for 15+ years, and absolutely love the results. Being able to feel as well as hear the kick makes playing more accurate, and enjoyable. The more you can connect with your parts, the better the results.

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Old 10-08-2013, 02:49 PM
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Love the P&D guys, & their product. I use it for just under half of my gigs. I have the full blown BC II model.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:08 PM
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:05 PM
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Thumpers, shakers and kickers have been around for decades, starting probably in the '70s with custom cannister thrones with a driver mounted just under the seat. Without plugging (or unplugging) any brands unless asked, I've been using such devices for 15+ years, and absolutely love the results. Being able to feel as well as hear the kick makes playing more accurate, and enjoyable. The more you can connect with your parts, the better the results.

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Makes a lot of sense to me. A lot of times this would be a better que vs. whatever monitor system is available.
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:29 PM
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Makes a lot of sense to me. A lot of times this would be a better que vs. whatever monitor system is available.
Well, it's not vs. - it's in addition to. Coupled with some kick in the monitor/phones/in-ears, the thump completes the experience.

Let's face it, a good mix is absolutely crucial to playing well, and a thump from the kick helps the drummer to know exactly what he's playing both rhythmically and dynamically.

The first time I used a thumper seat, it was a revelation. It helped my playing immeasurably as well as reducing the monitor level, which had to manage the fairly loud volume I needed from my kick just to connect with it. This is c1997 -



About 10 years ago, I changed systems to something more efficient, more compact, and more durable, and I'm still thrilled every time I use it.



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Old 10-09-2013, 09:38 AM
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I have Porter & Davies Gigster and a Rackmount and as others report they really improve your playing as well as the enjoyment of playing.
Many run their kick drum through it, but a send from a mixer is better as snare and toms also can be felt.
They are really expensive though - as much as an intermediate drumset.

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Old 10-09-2013, 03:02 PM
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Well, it's not vs. - it's in addition to. Coupled with some kick in the monitor/phones/in-ears, the thump completes the experience.

Let's face it, a good mix is absolutely crucial to playing well, and a thump from the kick helps the drummer to know exactly what he's playing both rhythmically and dynamically.

The first time I used a thumper seat, it was a revelation. It helped my playing immeasurably as well as reducing the monitor level, which had to manage the fairly loud volume I needed from my kick just to connect with it. This is c1997 -



About 10 years ago, I changed systems to something more efficient, more compact, and more durable, and I'm still thrilled every time I use it.



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That is what I was trying to say in so many words. A lot of times I feel the monitor situation is lacking and at times the mix to my in ears or floor wedge does not have enough kick. I can say that I would agree 100% the thumper mixed with the monitors would give you the "feel" to really sync with the music. Very cool setups! You have convinced me I need to do this also :-)

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Old 10-10-2013, 03:08 AM
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what does one of those gigsters cost? looks spendy

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Old 10-10-2013, 06:13 AM
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799GBP inclusive of the seat, but not the stand for the seat.

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Old 10-10-2013, 05:14 PM
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wow, that is pricey

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wow, that is pricey

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I can confirm this from multiple personal experience (esp. hi-end guitar and tube studio gear). Costly yes - but think of the fun/benefit you'd have.
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:44 AM
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Do these devices require a separate monitor channel aside from the normal one for the drummer? Also how much of an amplifier is needed to power one of these things?
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: Jojo Mayer using Porter & Davies BC Gigster

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The green box in th Jojo Mayer photo is the amplifier and is proprietary and included together with the seat if you buy a unit.
There are 2 ways of getting signal to the unit.
1. Run a microphone from the kick drum straight into the amplifier. The amplifier splits the signal and there is an output so you are route the kick mike to a mixer.
2. Get an aux send from a mixer. This way you can route all the drums to the unit. Snares and toms can also be felt in the seat and this is the best way. Even a click can be felt.

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Old 10-15-2013, 05:19 AM
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<<Quality exists when the price is long forgotten.>> [Henry Royce]

I can confirm this from multiple personal experience (esp. hi-end guitar and tube studio gear). Costly yes - but think of the fun/benefit you'd have.
one is in the works from Jimmie

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Old 10-15-2013, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: Jojo Mayer using Porter & Davies BC Gigster

I purchased one several years ago and have been very happy with it.

I posted a review of the product here if anyone might find it helpful.

It works well for smaller gigs where no in-ears are used as well as an electronic kit for practicing.
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