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Old 06-15-2011, 10:50 PM
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Default Help with modern Ludwig serial numbers

looking at a black oyster bonham style ludwig kit with monroe keystone badges,,the 14" tom serial number is 3395937...it also has a 26in kick and 16 and 18in floor toms,,,anyone know what kind of ludwigs these are ? what type of shells ? good quality ?,,,thanks for any help guys !!!!
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Old 06-16-2011, 12:17 AM
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The serial numbers on Monroe Keystone badges can't be used to date the drum, I'm afraid.

Yet another of Ludwig's great mysteries.

Got a pic or a link?
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Old 06-16-2011, 12:55 AM
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thanks pocket,,,
its on ebay,,,just wondering if these are good,,they look it,,,




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Old 06-16-2011, 01:21 AM
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I'm thinking that's a Classic Maple kit mate. Yes they are very good.....so good in fact, that I want one too!! :-)
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Old 06-16-2011, 03:11 AM
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Classic Maple, not that old at all. Those particular spurs have only been in use for a few years.
Nice kit.
Did you get it?
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Old 06-16-2011, 03:22 AM
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Karl, how long have the toms had the double badges/vents? Is that new and is it all toms or just the mounted? Can't recall seeing it before, but that could be me not paying close enough attention.
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Karl, how long have the toms had the double badges/vents? Is that new and is it all toms or just the mounted? Can't recall seeing it before, but that could be me not paying close enough attention.
Unusual - my Ludwig Classic Maples are only a few months old and there is only one badge/vent per drum. I wonder if that was a special order? Ludwig will do lots of little details to order.
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Unusual - my Ludwig Classic Maples are only a few months old and there is only one badge/vent per drum. I wonder if that was a special order? Ludwig will do lots of little details to order.
Yeah it a strange one hey. I've seen it on other brands with RIMS style mounting. I thought it was just to provide an extra "branding option" should the RIMS mount cover the badge. But it's a first on a Luddy kit.

Mind you something like that would retail for around 5 and a half to 6 thousand here (last I checked), so we seldom see CM's on the shop floor at all in Oz. My limited experience generally comes from drooling over all you guys here on the forum that own them.
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hey guys,,,
thanks for the help,,,yep,,i had to pull the trigger on these drums,,the store said they think there early 2000's so im thinking they might of been a special order kit,i dont think a 26" kick was avalible then,,not sure,,,i will let ya guys know when i get them,,by the way,,,,anyone need a bonham accent kit in silver sparkle ??? lol,,
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Old 06-16-2011, 05:12 PM
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Cool, looks like a nice kit!

It wasn't a special order on the badges, Ludwig used double badges for a few years.
One badge will have serial numbers, and the other is plain.

My 2007 Red Sparkle CM's has 2 on the toms, and several toms before, and after '07 have 2 badges.

It was to put the bracket section of a RIMS mount between the badges.
That way, no matter what size was used, a badge was facing out.

I got an 8x12, and a 13x15 ft late last year in Sable Black.
I can't recall if they have 2 badges, but I'm playing that kit tonight, so I'll look.

Have fun with the kit rdon!!
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Old 06-16-2011, 08:52 PM
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My new red sparkles only have one badge.


Nice kit!
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:25 PM
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I looked last night, & the 8x12 Sable Black tom I got last year (2010) has one badge.

The 9x13" RS tom from '07 has 2 badges.

I bought the RS 8x12 late in 2008, or early 2009 (can't remember), & it has 2 badges, so they would have stopped doing 2 badges on toms between '08 -'09....maybe '10....

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BTW, Ludwig has *always* had a 26" bass drum available (*since they started offering them).

As far as I know, they are the only "major" offering 3 different lug style choices, & 2 badge choices (B/O or Keystone).

Not sure if it applies to both CM and Legacy, but for sure for the Classic Maple.

Ludwig will also apply a finish a customer sends to them, if someone wanted a finish they don't offer.
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SO WOULD YOU GUYS SAY THESE ARE A EARLIER MAPLE KIT ? EARLY 2000'S ? THANKS GUYS,,I KNOW THEY ARE A GOOD LINE JUST NOT SURE WHICH ONES AS YOU CANT FIND ANYTHING FROM THE SERIAL NUMBERS,,,

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Old 06-20-2011, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: help with modern ludwig serial numbers !!!

I'd say somewhere between 2000 and 2009 is a good bet.

They still make the the same way today (as in TODAY, 6-20-11) as they did then, so no worries!

There might be numbers stamped in the shell in black, but it's not a exact day/date stamp.

Enjoy, looks like a cool kit!!
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Old 06-20-2011, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: help with modern ludwig serial numbers !!!

thanks karl,,,so i can assume they are more then likely maple shells ??? thanks again !!!
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Default 3313335 serial number ludwig maple classic

На моих томах 13 и 14" тоже по два значка! В каком году интересно был выпуск таких барабанов???
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Old 10-03-2013, 12:34 AM
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На моих томах 13 и 14" тоже по два значка! В каком году интересно был выпуск таких барабанов???
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In my drums 13 and 14 "are also on the two badges, interesting, In what year were the drums released?

I don't have an answer but here are some of the badges
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Old 10-04-2013, 05:06 PM
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Ludwig used 2 badges on toms for quite a while.

A couple years after I got my original Super Classics (January of '90) I was getting more toms and they came with 2.

I think they did the two badges so the badge could face out on either side of a mount.

My '07 kit had 2 badges on the toms, but I got a couple drums in 2011 and they had one again.

My original SC kit was Sable Black and had the Mach Lugs. I will look at the serial numbers and see how close they are to the listed numbers.
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Old 10-04-2013, 05:52 PM
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Год выпуска 1994!!!



Вот такой том.
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That looks to be in beautiful shape. Very nice!!
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