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Old 08-27-2013, 06:47 PM
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im 21 years old and i want to learn how to play drum you think im too old?

what drum should i buy for this song ( drum set for adult )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbi2ZEiJq_A

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kALsjXjYGoI

(idk if this song is rock or not)

but i want 5pieces of drum and 4 cymbals..and also i nid microphone for my drum?

if i buy one drum set with free drum pedal right or nid to buy.. idk sorry

and i nid drum tuner right?

my budjet is only 100-1k$ is that good enough?

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Old 08-27-2013, 07:20 PM
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I think you need to take lessons and practice for a few years ,to be able to play either one of those songs.

Those drummers are exceptional,and talented players,who have years of playing and natural ability.

Lastly,are you quite sure you're not a trolling?

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Old 08-27-2013, 07:33 PM
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I think you need to take lessons and practice for a few years ,to be able to play either one of those songs.

Those drummers are exceptional,and talented players,who have years of playing and natural ability.

Lastly,are you quite sure you're not a trolling?

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im not trolling and i really want to learn how to play drum i'm god damn serious.. please help me.. but shocked because i cant emagine that song is really hard to play on drum and i really nid to practice for a years to play either one of that songs? ( is there any way to learn faster and play one of that song? Y.Y )
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:51 PM
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im not trolling and i really want to learn how to play drum i'm god damn serious.. please help me.. but shocked because i cant emagine that song is really hard to play on drum and i really nid to practice for a years to play either one of that songs? ( is there any way to learn faster and play one of that song? Y.Y )
Remember what Yoda said about becoming a Jedi? That's pretty much how it is if you want to learn anything and do it well. If you've never done it before, it will be hard and your desire to learn is what will keep you at it. Some people get it quickly, some people it takes more time, it's up to you.

If you're really serious, go buy a pad and some sticks and find a teacher to start off right. You can buy a drumset if you want, nobody is stopping you from that, but it'll take a lot longer if you don't have direction. Good luck!
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:56 PM
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Welcome to the forum! So let's assume you're honest.

As for a quick way to learn drumming - or what you need to play those songs:
-- Get the best teacher you can afford. (Online resources are great, too - also on a one-on-one basis, e.g. via skype.)
-- The truth is: How much practice time can you/are you going to invest? The more (quality) practice the better you'll get, and the quicker you'll get there.
-- Drumming can be split up into: handwork (pad & sticks is more than enough for a while), footwork, interdependence, grooves. You'll need to address all of them to get decent results, especially if you plan to ever play the stuff in the videos - that's a pretty high level of playing there! It WILL take years no matter what.

Back to your initial question - what drum...

Maybe buy used and learn the basics for a while, then get a really good kit and until then you'd know whether you'll keep up drumming (who knows, interests can change) and what preferences you might have acquired until then (jazz, metal - again, who knows ;-).

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Old 08-27-2013, 08:01 PM
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im not trolling and i really want to learn how to play drum i'm god damn serious.. please help me.. but shocked because i cant emagine that song is really hard to play on drum and i really nid to practice for a years to play either one of that songs? ( is there any way to learn faster and play one of that song? Y.Y )
Ok...when you get VERY good at playing an instrument,most musicians "make it look easy" as the saying goes.

Drums are easy to play at first,but difficult to play well.

In the two songs you cite as examples,the drumming is at expert level,and difficult to play.In fact,very few drummes could even play at that level.

There is NO way to learn to play more quickly to even ATTEMPT to reach that level.

So if there's someone telling you that that level of playing is easy....tell them to keep walking.

You have to crawl,before you can walk or run....right?The same thing here.

Just buy a pair of sticks and a practice pad.,and a book with basic rudaments....you'll see what I mean.

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Old 08-27-2013, 08:31 PM
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do i really nid a teacher to teach me how to play drum?

maybe i should teach my self and practice and look for some drum lesson on internet/youtube..or i really nid a teacher?
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:46 PM
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do i really nid a teacher to teach me how to play drum?

maybe i should teach my self and practice and look for some drum lesson on internet/youtube..or i really nid a teacher?
Honest answer: Yes - if you're serious.

No - if you want to talk yourself into "I can learn it myself". But - you'll take LONGER to actually learn on your own than having a teacher. You should at least get some lessons in-between, especially at the beginning and then for checking your technique/progress on a regular basis. Plus, imagine what happens if you learn something the wrong way - you'll program WRONG motions into your playing, and you have to realize first that you have some technical flaws before you can even address them, and re-programming motions will take even more time. That's why a (good) teacher will get you there, on a straight path, without trial and error, in the shortest period of time.

You know, you're dreaming of achieving pretty high standards in drumming (which is hard by itself), and then do so within the shortest time possible (which calls for either having an excellent sensitory system to detect flaws in your technique on your own, without a teacher) and even think that you could do so without a teacher - that's more like a fairy tale, not reality. I'm just trying to show you up some things so you won't fool yourself or have a rude awakening at a later time.

Let's be realistic:
Provided you have excellent motivation and practice discipline, how much time do you have realistically?
How many hours a day could you practice with a pad, at the kit (once you have one)? How old are you? Give us some more info on yourself, please.

By the way, it's "need", not "nid".
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:49 PM
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do i really nid a teacher to teach me how to play drum?

maybe i should teach my self and practice and look for some drum lesson on internet/youtube..or i really nid a teacher?
Most on this site would recommend getting a teacher. A teacher can guide you and fix any mistakes in your technique.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:55 PM
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For the future of the human race I really hope you are not 21... But because you give off a certain vibe, I am unsure on how dedicated you really are to drumming. I say get a practice pad, some sticks and a teacher. If you can stick at it (pun intended) for say 2 months. Then come back and ask for kit advice. My penny farthing.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:20 PM
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So let's assume you're honest.
Oh Arky, you put me to shame.

OP, if you are by any chance genuine, I imagine that if you wanted to play the violin, you wouldn't be surprised that you needed a teacher, would you?

I am suspecting one of Henri's manifestations ...

I am happy to apologise for my cynicism if OP is genuine, but either way, I'm enjoying every syllable.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:35 PM
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. but shocked because i cant emagine that song is really hard to play on drum and i really nid to practice for a years to play either one of that songs? ( is there any way to learn faster and play one of that song? Y.Y )
The word you're struggling to find is NEED.

You don't need to do anything suggested, but as you're asking on the planet's biggest drum forum, it's good to take advice on board if you want to progress.

"That song", especially using the first clip performance as an example, is a pretty simple song, but playing it to that standard is anything but simple. You seem to have the impression that drums are somehow an easy instrument to play. Sure, hitting them is easy, playing a few basic beats & fill is easy, but getting it just right, & contributing as a musician is no more easy or difficult than any other instrument.

As for your original question, $100 - $1,000 is a pretty big range. You can get an instrument at either end of that spectrum, & beyond. Essentially, you get what you pay for, but in the case of used gear, even more.

Start by getting lessons. I know - boring, but it's actually where your money is best spent. Seeking the fastest possible route is rarely the best in the long term.

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Old 08-27-2013, 09:41 PM
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ohh i see so i really need a teacher .. before that im just thinking maybe i should buy this first

http://www.amazon.com/Rock-Wireless-...+band+drum+set

for my xbox so can gain experience?

before i buy a real drum set and get a teacher so i can get good enough experience?

and im 21 years old u think its too late?

i cant get a teacher because i have a work so instead a teacher maybe this one will work

https://www.mcssl.com/SecureCart/Che...ash=1#includes

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Old 08-27-2013, 10:04 PM
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No, it is nothing like an actual drum kit. Please, just get a teacher and a practice pad and try that first.
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Ok, I've been following this stupid thread for over 5 hours now. Is this guy (the OP) for real? How many times does he need to be told... GET LESSONS!

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

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Meta-troll. A troll to troll for trolls. Yeah. that's what we need. lol
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do i really nid a teacher to teach me how to play drum?

maybe i should teach my self and practice and look for some drum lesson on internet/youtube..or i really nid a teacher?
Hi there, welcome! Where are you from?

No. You'd be a better drummer, faster, if you took lessons...but you don't need a teacher to start enjoying and learning how to play. You could get a really nice drum kit for $1000 or less. I'd suggest looking around on eBay for a package deal with everything you need.

Good luck!
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:45 AM
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You're gonna want to budget around $800 if you want all brand new stuff or $400-600 if you want (better quality) used stuff. You can easily find mid-range complete setups for the latter range on CList. Just look for Yamaha, Tama, Pearl, Ludwig, Gretsch, PDP, or Mapex. Hard to get a bad starter kit from any of those brands.

Buying used will save you a LOT of money considering you'd be getting better quality stuff for less cash.

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Not even my active imagination can stretch that far, Arky.

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Old 08-28-2013, 05:16 AM
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1.You are not too old.
2. The rock band-toy kit is nothing else than a huge practice pad with less
of a realistic bounce. Don't buy one you will not want one after playing on a real kit.

I started at 21 and are 24 now... After wasting the first 2 years of my drumming on playing games with my e-kit (DTXmania) I've put in some serious practice with a great teacher and it's a huge difference! Don't buy a e-kit if you can choose and don't try to learn by yourself.

DON'T BUY the rock band TOY, I've gone through rock band toys to cheap e-kit to expensive nice e-kits. You won't be able to play on a real kit without any experience, you won't be used to the rebound, how hard you need to play on the bass drum etc etc.

what you should do:
1. Get a pair of sticks and practice pad ASAP!
2. Search for some beginner lessons (how to count and some other inspirational videos that get you in the right mindset)
Practice counting on some rock songs with a steady beat, AC/DC songs for example.
3. Take a lesson once a week or as often as you can for around 6 months, and try to spread the lessons out as much as you can.

After that you will have some kind of knowledge of what you need to do to get better yourself and what to buy.
You could even start your own rock band playing 80's rock tunes after 6 months...You will however slow down your overall technique progress a lot but improve your feel, staying in time, be in the pocket with other musicians etc...


Best way is to combine seeing a teacher once a week and have a jam-session once a week. That way you get the best from both worlds and probably how you improve the fastest way possible.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:50 AM
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:31 AM
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21 too old?? I am over 40 and started taking lessons 3 weeks ago. AND there's a guy that I think is in his late 60's or 70's who is taking lessons. I think lessons are beneficial because then someone will tell you what you are doing right and what you need to work on and give you direction for your practicing.

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You're gonna want to budget around $800 if you want all brand new stuff or $400-600 if you want (better quality) used stuff. You can easily find mid-range complete setups for the latter range on CList. Just look for Yamaha, Tama, Pearl, Ludwig, Gretsch, PDP, or Mapex. Hard to get a bad starter kit from any of those brands.

Buying used will save you a LOT of money considering you'd be getting better quality stuff for less cash.

P.S., if you're just trolling, you suck.
I have to agree to start out with you don't necessarily need the drum set to start practicing, just a practice pad, and sticks. If you are going to buy a set, there are lots of decent used sets that you can find. I bought a 6pc catalina maple with hardware and zildjian cymbals(not the best cymbals but I figure once I figure out what cymbals I really like I can move up).
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:48 PM
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21 is not too late. I'm twice your age and I start new hobbies all the time, much to the chagrin of my spouse and our bank account. If you have the interest, you can learn.

Like everyone else, I recommend you find a decent drum instructor. It is easy to pick up a pair of sticks and start making some noise, and it is fun, but like it was mentioned above, if you want to become a GOOD drummer, then you will do yourself a great service by playing with good technique from the beginning.

Once you have a foundation of good stick technique and the ability to read music, you might be able to progress on your own for a while with books and videos. Once you know the basics, it's not hard to learn beats and grooves and fills on your own. Just listen and try to copy what you hear. With YouTube it's so much easier than when I was learning because you can see what the drummer is doing. I spent my first year of drumming going through a Rush songbook with an instructor. I became an expert on Neil Peart's style, even though I couldn't play it very well :) It was a great education on rock drumming and I had a great time learning it.

Get a practice pad and some sticks, and if you want a drumset, get a good used one. If you end up not playing much, you can always sell it for about what you paid for it.

I started drumming because I wanted to be in marching band. My parents were cool with it because they figured they didn't have to buy an instrument. They got me some snare lessons from a great teacher who taught me the rudiments and how to read. But within a month, I was annoying the hell out of my folks to buy me a drum set. Practicing on a pad is great, but banging away on a drum kit is a lot more fun, so I say go for it.

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Obviously you need a Saturn. Do whatever you want man, but you have the best advice already. I guess in the end do what makes you happy. If you want to be good, listen to the advice here, but if you don't really care, do whatever you want.
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I am bored, otherwise I wouldn't respond to a trolling thread.....

I saw an interview with a pro golfer (sorry, cant remember his name) but he mentioned that he was at a driving range and a fan made the comment that they wished they could hit a drive like (insert golfer's name). The golfer stopped walked over and told the person that they really didn't mean that. He stated if they really wanted to hit a golf ball the way he does they wouldn't be standing there watching. They would be up at the crack of dawn swinging and sacrificing other things in life to perfect their swing. He told them they didnt "want" or "wish" for anything and that those comments were offensive to him. I give the guy props for having the balls to tell the truth. Those guys on Youtube, studio drummers, or the gig'ing professional have spent hours and hours on the sticks. Like anything else in life it requires dedication, hard work, and tons of practice. Some people are more naturally gifted than others (no doubt), but you can improve and become better but it requires work.
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ohh i see so i really need a teacher .. before that im just thinking maybe i should buy this first

http://www.amazon.com/Rock-Wireless-...+band+drum+set

for my xbox so can gain experience?

before i buy a real drum set and get a teacher so i can get good enough experience?

and im 21 years old u think its too late?

i cant get a teacher because i have a work so instead a teacher maybe this one will work

https://www.mcssl.com/SecureCart/Che...ash=1#includes
Is that you Sticks?

Maybe the caped drummer boy?

Miley Cyrus?

Justin Bieber?

I think I nid and Advil.........:)

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Old 08-28-2013, 09:42 PM
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LOL this thread is awesome!!

I really hope the OP is not serious or really 21, otherwise he will have much more things to worry about in life than drumming.

But it gave me a good laugh
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Jeez, you guys are too cynical!

OP, if you have the cash, spring for the best drumkit you can afford. BUT ONLY IF you're dead serious about learning to play. Nothing worse than plonking cash on an expensive instrument, playing it for a day or two and then realising you'd rather be doing something else. I've seen it time and again, mainly with acoustic guitars, lol.

The gents on the forum are bang on about getting a teacher to help you learn to play these songs FAST. Teachers can also assist you with using the right technique while playing, which is pretty important.

But your aptitude is what really counts in the end, you might be some kind of musical genius. So take the time to familiarise yourself with the kit, push yourself as hard as you can go and if you run into trouble somewhere or find you've reached a dead end, then go to a teacher.

But remember, if you're not serious, don't buy the kit, it'll just be a waste of space and hard-earned money. In that sense, perhaps invest in a lesson or two first and see if you LIKE playing the drums.

I'm amused with the songs you chose, I don't listen to a lot of Japanese music, but that Sword Art Online song caught my attention, got an interesting vibe and the vocals are nice.

I can nail these songs! Woohoo!
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Just do a search for "adult videos for drummers"....:-)
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I saw an interview with a pro golfer (sorry, cant remember his name) but he mentioned that he was at a driving range and a fan made the comment that they wished they could hit a drive like (insert golfer's name). The golfer stopped walked over and told the person that they really didn't mean that. He stated if they really wanted to hit a golf ball the way he does they wouldn't be standing there watching. They would be up at the crack of dawn swinging and sacrificing other things in life to perfect their swing. He told them they didnt "want" or "wish" for anything and that those comments were offensive to him. I give the guy props for having the balls to tell the truth. Those guys on Youtube, studio drummers, or the gig'ing professional have spent hours and hours on the sticks. Like anything else in life it requires dedication, hard work, and tons of practice. Some people are more naturally gifted than others (no doubt), but you can improve and become better but it requires work.
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One of the things I like so much about DrummerWorld is that the "benefit of the doubt is often offered". Nice!

Start drums at any age. A drum teacher is best. Do not try to guess how you will play in the future....just start.

Good Luck!
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Jeez, you guys are too cynical!
Hmmm. Are some of us too cynical, or others just too gullible?

I'm excited by this thread. Until it appeared I had no idea there were so many peple that would be willing to line up and buy a bridge from me. Hell, from what I'm reading here I could even charge over the going rate. PM me, for you I'll do a really special deal! :-)
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im 21 years old and i want to learn how to play drum you think im too old?...
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ohh i see so i really need a teacher .. before that im just thinking maybe i should buy this first

http://www.amazon.com/Rock-Wireless-...+band+drum+set

for my xbox so can gain experience?....

You are too old. Don't waste your money on Rock Band because if you aren't an expert on it by the time you are one year old, you'll never get anywhere.
Give up now before you waste your time and money.



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Old 08-29-2013, 04:23 PM
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It's been two days and the OP has left the building.

Too cynical...I think NOT.Call it schooled by life experience.

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Old 08-29-2013, 05:23 PM
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I am bored, otherwise I wouldn't respond to a trolling thread.....

I saw an interview with a pro golfer (sorry, cant remember his name) but he mentioned that he was at a driving range and a fan made the comment that they wished they could hit a drive like (insert golfer's name). The golfer stopped walked over and told the person that they really didn't mean that. He stated if they really wanted to hit a golf ball the way he does they wouldn't be standing there watching. They would be up at the crack of dawn swinging and sacrificing other things in life to perfect their swing. He told them they didnt "want" or "wish" for anything and that those comments were offensive to him. I give the guy props for having the balls to tell the truth. Those guys on Youtube, studio drummers, or the gig'ing professional have spent hours and hours on the sticks. Like anything else in life it requires dedication, hard work, and tons of practice. Some people are more naturally gifted than others (no doubt), but you can improve and become better but it requires work.
Great analogy. Natural talent is not all it's cracked up to be. Read Outliers by Malcom Gladwell, very interesting stuff.

Synopsis - If you want to excel, you have to put in the practice hours, regardless of how much innate talent you may seem to possess. The guys at the top are the ones that practiced relentlessly for years.
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Not too old at 21. There are a few things in life, like ice hockey, where 21 is too old to master. what kills me is that in this day and age, with youtube, google, other sites, people are unsure about stuff like this. when i started playing 30 years ago ( geez!), I couldn't click on a link and see a youtube tutorial on how to increase hand or foot speed. Information traveled so slowly in the 70s and 80s. It's akin to information that traveled in the 1500s. Think howm uch time must have passed between when something happened in California to hearing about it in New York back in the 1800s?? It would take weeks to hear the information. Now, seconds.

Point here is: you have access to so much knowledge, instantly. This site was a great start, but go out and read/view even BEFORE you pick up a stick. Get a beginner's book, too. Oh, and I recommend a sonor extreme. Cheap, but sounds good....
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