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Old 07-20-2014, 12:21 AM
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Default Snare resonant head with shallow-est collar?

I use S hoops on my favorite snare.

I just put new heads on it, a Remo ambassador hazy on the bottom head.

Im having a problem, because the S hoop goes over the bearing edge of the drum, you can't tighten it down infinitely, there comes a point where the hoop will be stopped by the bearing edge.

But the problem is, even with a brand new head, I cannot get the head to the tension i want without reaching this limit.

What brand of head, or specific models have a shallower collar, so i can apply the same tension without cranking down as far?

Picture: as you can see, the hoop is already dangerously close to the bearing edge in that area, but im nowhere near the tension i would like yet.

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Old 07-20-2014, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: Snare resonant head with shallow-est collar?

Remo makes the collarless types, so does Aquarian. I prefer those anyway (the collarless....in Aquarian) :D
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Old 07-20-2014, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: Snare resonant head with shallow-est collar?

Yup, just search for the "marching version" or the "no-collar version" to find the Remo one. I'm using one right now on my S-Hoop'd snare. I prefer it anyways because I tend to tighten those heads quite a bit.
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Old 07-20-2014, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Snare resonant head with shallow-est collar?

I use the Remo marching/no collar Clear Ambassador.
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Old 07-20-2014, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Snare resonant head with shallow-est collar?

Why do you use S-Hoops on the batter side.?
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: Snare resonant head with shallow-est collar?

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Why do you use S-Hoops on the batter side.?
Do you mean resonant side?
I use them on my batter side because I want to protect the bearing edge. The shell is smaller than standard and can easily be hit by a stick without the S hoop
As for why the reso, i just wanted it to match so i got top and bottom for my favorite snare.


Aquarian makes a no collar design? I love aquarian! I cant seem to find any results online for no collar though,.

Thanks for the replies! I found the remo one easily, still looking for the Aquarian one!
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:15 AM
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thanks yes I meant redo. I have S-hoops on two batter side os snares but just wondered about the resos. Thanks
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Old 07-20-2014, 04:47 AM
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thanks yes I meant redo. I have S-hoops on two batter side os snares but just wondered about the resos. Thanks
FWIW, mine came with S-Hoops on both sides. The effect is certainly subtler on the reso, having compared it to a 2.3mm. But I much prefer either of those to my die-cast on the reso usually.
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Old 07-20-2014, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Snare resonant head with shallow-est collar?

You can try a Ludwig snare-side, it has a shallow collar. The Aquarian is also shallow.
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Old 07-21-2014, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: Snare resonant head with shallow-est collar?

hey sounds great, im still looking for the aquarian no collar, that would be awesome, i love aquarian.
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