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Old 04-26-2013, 08:46 PM
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What do you guys use as your main snare, but just as important, what back up snare do you bring?

Any reasons for either would be great.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:55 PM
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I use a Pearl Eric Singer Signature (now discontinued) 1 inch thick maple snare as my main snare. I never had to use my backup snare, never. I carry a 14 x 5 mapex birch snare, and it has a severe inferiority complex.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:09 PM
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I usually just take one snare to a gig, a Pearl hammered brass Tony DeGrasso. However, after reading all the posts lately about having a spare, I decided to take a second to a gig I am playing at the Norman Music Festival in a couple of hours. My back up will be a 1970"s Zickos clear shell. Both drums are quite bright and that is what this gig calls for.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:15 PM
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On tour I play a 6.5" Black Beauty and my b/u is a 6.5" Supra (both 2006.) I didn't want to 'waste' a BB by having it sit as a spare, and in the single emergency I've had, the Supra was just fine until the BB was back in action (only needed to replace snare wire cord.)

In town, I use various snares, mostly Ludwig and mostly 6.5" metal shells. I don't bring a backup, but I do keep a spare set of snare & tom batters. I used to carry extra cord, felts, and other supplies, but never got around to needing any of them. Maybe I've just been lucky, but in 40+ years of local gigging, I've never had a snare (or pedal or much else) fail. Can't recall ever breaking a head on the job, but that seems more likely than anything else, so at least I'm prepared for that!

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Old 04-26-2013, 09:49 PM
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Main snare: Pork Pie 14x6.5 Big Black - black chrome over brass with tube lugs. I swapped out the triple flange hoops for die cast. Sounds great and very versatile.

My back up is an OCDP 13x7 maple with die cast hoops. Great inexpensive snare.

Actually both of them are!
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:52 PM
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I now have two main snares that I switch between: a 5x14 Pearl Sensitone Brass and a 5x14 Ludwig Standard aluminum (think Acrolite with no bead). I like the brass snare for live performance -- it has a lively punch with a bit of overtones behind it. The aluminum snare seems more suited for recording and miking indoors, it's more controlled. But I think one would easily sub for the other. So if I were to be gigging again in the near future, I'd take them both along. I also have a 5x12 maple soprano that I use on the side, and in a pinch I could switch to that drum in the middle of a song, then tune it down slightly to finish the set. I actually love using it as a main snare, it's very easy to use double bass with a smaller snare between my knees.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:54 PM
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I just have two main snares. A 1980s 6.5x14 Ludwig Supraphonic, and a 1970s 6.5x14 Slingerland COB Buddy Rich TDR. Depending on my mood, I decide which one gets used first ;)
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My favorite and gigging snare is a Gretsch American Classic Hand Hammered 5X14.

My practice snare on my practice set is a Tama Birch Artwood 6.5X14
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I own three snares and each can be my main snare depending on the gig/venue.

My go-to snare is Pearl Ian Paice Sig 14x6.5 steel, which is supposedly based on Supra. I tune it medium low for a fat classic rock tone and feel. It sounds and feels so right!!!

If l want to go for a more woody tone and a healthy crack with medium high tuning, I take my Taye StudioMaple 14x5 to the gig.

My Yamaha Musashi 12x6 oak snare is sometimes used as a backup, sometimes side snare and it serves as the main snare on small gigs. Like Alparrott, I just tune it down a bit if I am going to use it as my main snare.
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Old 04-27-2013, 12:31 AM
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My go to snare is a 14x 5.5 Mapex Steel shell black panther. If I carry a spare it's either my Mapex Saturn maple walnut, same size as the BP or my Pearl brass 14x6.5, which I prefer for the studio as it really barks, although to be fair I haven't had either of the others in the studio yet.
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Old 04-27-2013, 12:40 AM
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I have 4 main snares that I gig with.
Gretsch COB 5.5x14 10 lug 1975 vintage
Mapex Black Panther maple 5.5x13
Mapex Saturn maple/walnut 5.5x14 10 lug
Ludwig Club Date SE cherry/gum wood with reinforcement rings 5x14 8 lug

My primary back up spare snare is my Sonor Safari 5x14 with upgraded 2.3mm triple flanged hoops 8 lug.
I also use my Sonor Special Edition Maple 5.5x14 10 lug as a back up and practice snare 10 lug.
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:48 AM
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I don't know about mains and backups, but I always carry an extra snare with me. I always have my 6.5x14 Black Beauty and my 6.5x14 Supra. Either a coin toss or which ever one I'm feeling more that day determines which goes on the stand first with the other becoming the backup. I love 'em both.
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:18 AM
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So far the overwhelming majority of people here use metal snares as their main snare.
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:24 AM
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So far the overwhelming majority of people here use metal snares as their main snare.
You are surprised?.........
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:28 AM
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Yea a little. Hey whatever makes one happy.
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Old 04-27-2013, 04:33 AM
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Main 6.5x14 supra. back up 6,5x14 Pearl Ian Paice sig. In the studio its usually my 79 Ludwig Coliseum.
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Old 04-27-2013, 04:43 AM
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So far the overwhelming majority of people here use metal snares as their main snare.
My newly acquired DW Edge is both with the maple center :-) and could be the main snare (6 x 14).

I pondered this question since my snares include the DW Edge, Tama Stewart Copeland (5x14 COB), Tama Artwood (6 1/2 x 13) and soon - Tama Birch Bubinga Starclassic.

They all have a unique tone, which was my first objective. But I don't think either of them could substitute for the other in tone. I was going to use the 6 1/2 x 13 Artwood as a spare because it was easier to lug around, but your answers are making me think more on tone instead of portability. Maybe I could pair up the wood snares and keep the Edge and Copeland together?

Lots of Ludwigs in these lists.
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Old 04-27-2013, 06:08 AM
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It all depends on the band and genre of music. Sometimes it's my 14" x 5 1/2" Tama Starclassic Bubinga. Then maybe my 14" x 5 1/2" DW Classic (mahogany/poplar/mahogany). Or my Ludwig 14" x 5" Classic Maple or my 14" x 5 1/2" Yamaha Maple Custom Absolute. I never leave home without a back-up, usually one of my metal snares such as my 14" x 5" Ludwig Acrolite.

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Old 04-27-2013, 06:17 AM
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Yeah, I noticed that too.

I use both. A 14x5 Ludwig Classic Maple or a 14x5 Supra. I usually use the Supra as the back up but I think like the tone of it better now that I really think about it. A lot of my gigs are low-medium volume though.
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Main snare is a yamaha Steve Jordan . Back up is a yamaha ngudu chancler .
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I don't have a backup, but I do have heads... anyways it's my 13x5" Padauk stave. Sometimes I borrow a 14x6" Cherry stave from a friend.
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Old 04-27-2013, 03:03 PM
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I use a Pearl Eric Singer Signature (now discontinued) 1 inch thick maple snare as my main snare. I never had to use my backup snare, never. I carry a 14 x 5 mapex birch snare, and it has a severe inferiority complex.
Hey Larry...I'd love to know more about thick wood shell snares. It seems they would have a very fat crack for a powerful back beat. Would you say this is a good way to characterize it?

Also since this Eric Singer snare is discontinued which snare would be a similar style snare in your opinion?

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Old 04-27-2013, 03:36 PM
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I only have two snares at the moment. The 6.5x14" Brass Supra usually stays setup on my home/recording kit and a 6.5x14" Acrolite Reissue usually goes out with me to rehearsals and gigs.

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My main snare is a Mapex Saturn 14X5.5. I also have a Peace 14x6.5 steel snare and a Pacific SX 14x5.5. Peace and goodwill.
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Main snare is Ludwig Supraphonic 402, backup snares are Yamaha Copper 5.5X14 and Yamaha Oak Custom 5.5X14
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My main snare to date is a 14" x 5" ebony stave C/W die cast hoops. My backup is a 14" x 6" steam bent walnut with die cast hoops. This setup, however, is due to change significantly in the next two months. I may bow to pressure from Bo & Anon, & use a main + side snare setup. That way I don't need a backup snare, & I can switch between voices. One thing's for sure, the main snare will be the new "In-Tense" series C/W segmented ovangkol hoops.
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I see a trend here. There is just something magical about Ludwig snare drums. That's why I just ordered 6.5x14 Classic Maple in vintage Black Oyster with p86, die-cast butt plate, triple flange hoops and butterfly(?) lugs. Still only 500 bones as a special order.

My current main snares are 6.5x14 Supra and 6.5x14 Supra COB.
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Main snare: Pork Pie 14x6.5 Big Black - black chrome over brass with tube lugs. I swapped out the triple flange hoops for die cast. Sounds great and very versatile.

My back up is an OCDP 13x7 maple with die cast hoops. Great inexpensive snare.

Actually both of them are!
Ditto on the Pork Pie Big Black. Back-up is a Ludwig Black Magic 5x14.
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I main my '65 Acro, can fit almost anything.

For a backup i usually have a PDP Woody in a case next to me, but i'll sometimes throw it on the stand just to make it happy
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I see a trend here. There is just something magical about Ludwig snare drums. That's why I just ordered 6.5x14 Classic Maple in vintage Black Oyster with p86, die-cast butt plate, triple flange hoops and butterfly(?) lugs. Still only 500 bones as a special order.

My current main snares are 6.5x14 Supra and 6.5x14 Supra COB.
Yes, Ludwig snare drums are true bargains when you compare what you get vs what you pay.
You really can't go wrong with them. They have good resale value too.
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Yes, Ludwig snare drums are true bargains when you compare what you get vs what you pay.
You really can't go wrong with them. They have good resale value too.
Damn. I started this post to see how everyone's back up matched to their main snare.

-Could the back up replace their snare on stage with a similar tone if tuned up or down?
-Was it a smaller snare to help with transport (my interest)?
-Was it just as expensive as the main snare?
-Was it purely a back up "spare tire" purely for emergency use?

What eventually happenned was I did a quick search on eBay for Supras (as they were mentioned often here). bobdadruma is correct, great bargains and great resale.

I immediately got the hell of that site and returned to my current dilemna. Thanks a lot you guys. :-)
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I may bow to pressure from Bo & Anon, & use a main + side snare setup. That way I don't need a backup snare, & I can switch between voices.
I started messing around with a 2-snare set-up at the beginning of this year. It makes for a longer set-up but it's fun to use. I have a gig tonight. I just might do it again. I never used back-up snares and I never had a reason to but this concept is both functional and fun to play.

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I see a trend here. There is just something magical about Ludwig snare drums. That's why I just ordered 6.5x14 Classic Maple in vintage Black Oyster with p86, die-cast butt plate, triple flange hoops and butterfly(?) lugs.
I will use my 6.5x14 Classic Maple tonight. It matches (sequential serial numbers and everything) my Sky Blue Pearl set. I might bring my '71 Supra or my '79/'80 Acro for a second snare tonight. Yes, Ludwig snares are awesome!
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-Could the back up replace their snare on stage with a similar tone if tuned up or down?
-Was it a smaller snare to help with transport (my interest)?
-Was it just as expensive as the main snare?
-Was it purely a back up "spare tire" purely for emergency use?
-- Yes.
-- The smaller side snare is for a different voice; I would switch out the brass and aluminum.
-- No. The brass was nearly $300; the aluminum was traded for another snare (which only cost me $75 back in the day).
-- No. I switch 'em out based on the situation and my mood. But they both play divinely, so it's not a "one over the other" issue.
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Hey Larry...I'd love to know more about thick wood shell snares. It seems they would have a very fat crack for a powerful back beat. Would you say this is a good way to characterize it?

Also since this Eric Singer snare is discontinued which snare would be a similar style snare in your opinion?

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It's hard to characterize sound with words. Fat crack. That depends on if you use the rim. The drum only cracks when you use rimshots. A powerful back beat depends on how the drummer hits it more than the drum itself. I tune it pretty tight so I don't know that fat is the right way to describe the sound. I go for a Buddy Rich type snare sound, tight tuning, tight snares, really tight reso, so it's a very precise sounding instrument. There's nowhere to hide with that tuning. Double strokes have to be played cleanly to sound right with that tuning. There's zero slosh the way I tune it. I like it to sound like a gunshot.

I don't know that thicker = better for snares, I have a thin birch snare that I like just about as much as my thick maple. There's just something about the tone and the overtones of the thick maple that satisfies me more than any other snare I've played, including Black Beauties, Supra's, Acro's and Sensitones. It could be I just prefer a wood snare.

A similar thick snare? I don't have a good answer. I know Ludwigs "The Brick" is thick. I know DW's Super Solid is thick. I can't speak intelligently about them as I've never had a chance to gig them. I'm not sure but I think the old Radio Kings are thicker shells, but I may have that wrong.

As far as BigDinSD's comparison of backup snares to main snares, my backup snare is a lesser drum, sounds lesser, was less expensive and the only reason I carry it is for emergencies. I don't even bring it in, it sits in my van, kinda dumb, but I never needed it. Why do extra work? If I have an equipment failure, which really never happens, too bad, I take a time out to fix things. My gigs aren't that critical that I can't take 5 minutes to correct equipment failure. It''s not like I play concerts on a regular basis. When I do festivals, I do keep a backup handy, that's different. You gotta keep those events moving along. My bar gigs are a lot looser than a festival.
I don't want an expensive backup snare sitting in my vehicle. I don't give a hoot about a 14 x 5 Mapex snare that I got with a kit that I traded a bass guitar for. I'm more apt to change the head than to change snares anyway. I keep the spare heads in the van too because I rarely break heads. I really should bring spare heads and the backup snare with me, that would be the professional thing to do, but I don't except for higher profile gigs.

I do keep a few 8 x 11 plastic laminating sheets at arms length in case I break a bass drum head. I hate when that happens, the wheels come totally off if I don't have a kick drum. Any other breakage can be worked around...but not my bass drum.
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I should mention mention that I am going to get a 13x6.75" something for a main snare within the next year or so. Maybe an Ovangkol stave, maybe another Padauk, maybe one of Andy's new series, I don't know. But I am utterly surprised that I can get the range of sounds from a 13x5".
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right now, 6.5x14 Gretsch Maple
2nd is 5x14 Supraphonic (but I also never bring a backup).
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I don't know that thicker = better for snares,
Agreed. Of course, "better" supplied with the usual caveats. Thick shells can sound great. IMHO, they sound best when constructed in a certain way, & partnered with the right species. Thin shells too have their talents, again depending on ---------------.

One thing I hate is the grouping of "wood snares". As if, in some way, they're all similar. Same applies to "metal" snares. All quite different, but the variety of sounds achievable from different constructions & species of wood snares way eclipses the breadth of voices available in metal snares.

I have had a couple of players over the years state that all wood snares sound very similar, & said in a derogatory way. Well, those players either never get out of their own bedroom, or they're just plain deaf/stupid. "It's all down to the heads, tuning, & edges". Bollocks - absolute bollocks.
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:56 PM
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My current main is a 6.5x14 steam bent walnut. Backup is a 5x14 nickel over brass.
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I usually just take one snare to a gig, a Pearl hammered brass Tony DeGrasso. However, after reading all the posts lately about having a spare, I decided to take a second to a gig I am playing at the Norman Music Festival in a couple of hours. My back up will be a 1970"s Zickos clear shell. Both drums are quite bright and that is what this gig calls for.
Well, did the gig last night and I tried both snares. Turns out that I liked the sound of the Zickos better than the Pearl for this venue. Hmmm, I'll have to try this again.
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:33 PM
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I mainly bring 2 Brass 6.5 Black Beauties to my gigs. If something should ever happen, I want the same drum as I had.
They're always tuned slightly different, so depending on what I like better at the venue, that's the one I put up. They both get used on a regular basis.

I use my 6.5 (COB) Brass Edition with tube lugs with one group. I just like the vibe of that drum for that band. I also use a 6.5 Acro Classic with that band, but I always bring a BB.

I have a few wood snares, and I like them a lot, but for me on a gig the Brass is just "it", so I stopped bringing other snares and just played them at home when the mood hits.
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