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Old 09-15-2012, 10:04 PM
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Hi Drummerfriends

I like to change my beater when I want some different sounds, feel and/or power.

Currently I have these beaters, and according to what I play, I just swap them round, it's quick and very efficient, I can tell the change of feel, sound and power depending which one I choose.


1. The old type felt beater, for that classic, slightly more boomy sound, it brings out the low frequencies of the kick, with less attack than the modern felt beater. Ideal for jazzy music.



2. The Iron Cobra felt beater, much more focussed than the old type above, more attack and more emphasis on the medium frequencies, you can slide the little weight up or down the beater shaft for more or less inertia, a good "general" playing beater.



3. The Mapex Falcon beater, a very modern and versatile beater, reversible with either rubber or felt (the felt sounds different than the two above), it comes with 2 weights (10g & 20g) that you can insert in the beater (or none at all, for that super light feel), and like the IC it has a little weight you slide up or down for that perfect balance, I really feel the difference, and this beater can cover most type of sounds, my current favorite beater.




What about you, do you swap different type of beater? You just stick to one type? You prefer to change your tuning to altern the sound of your bass drum?

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Old 09-15-2012, 10:35 PM
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same beater ...always....for all styles

Danmar Felt...best beater made in my opinion

hard enough for rock and funk......just soft enough for jazz

exactly what I need

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Old 09-15-2012, 10:43 PM
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I love the stock DW beaters. I use one of the cheapo' PDP double pedals at the moment, and I play with extremely loose spring tension. The weight of those beaters gives me the feel of balance. I also like being able to rotate them for a softer sound, or more slap. As long as I have those beaters, I don't need anything else.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:55 PM
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The stock DW beaters are powerful as hell and well balanced, agreed. The Pearl Quad Beaters are decent too. Right now the DW is all I need because I love the feel and sound.
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:08 AM
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I've only played three beaters in the last 20 years.

The Danmar red wood beaters for when there is no such thing as too much attack. Heavy, though, and wears through a kick head quickly.

The stock DW beaters - as mentioned, they seem to have an ideal mix of balance, versatility, and playability.

For a while I used the Stagg reversible beaters shown here - on top of having a nice attack, they were incredibly light. However, that cost me a bit of volume, and I let them go when I sold my old Pearl double pedal.
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:20 AM
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I use a number of different beaters on my pedals.

The standard Felt on the Sonor Perfect Balance pedal ( JoJo Pedal)

I use the following on my Trick Pro 1V and Axis X Longboard in additio to the stock beaters
I like the DW Hardcore beater and the DanMar Zoro square felt beater.
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:23 AM
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I use this for Grunge and Punk rock.
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Old 09-16-2012, 01:43 AM
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DW felts but that one you show looks good GVD. A little softer? I like the deepest possible not from my kick at this point and softer is better. I dont like anythinig too heavy either. Want to be as quick as possible with my meat foot.
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Old 09-16-2012, 01:52 AM
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Really like the Puresound felt lined beater. On the lighter side compared to the DW beater but not as tiny as the Iron Cobra things. Also has the sliding weight thing. But has a larger contact area, more like the plastic side of the DW. Gives a great sound and feel.

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Old 09-16-2012, 01:52 AM
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DW felts but that one you show looks good GVD. A little softer?
nah.....the Danmar is actually really hard
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Old 09-16-2012, 01:56 AM
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Now this is a topic I can sink my teeth into.

Right now I'm using the old-fashioned 'round' felt beater and it really sounds great on my bass drum at the moment. Full and boomy with a nice feel. I used a Vater 'Vintage Bomber' for about four years and it served me very well but I started to crave more punch. When I want a lighter feel it's all about the old Pearl double-sided beater that I've had since about 2005.

My beaters last a very long time!
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Old 09-16-2012, 02:09 AM
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Put me down for the DW beaters as well. Good volume and attack using the plastic side. I like their weight, and they feel pretty balanced overall.

I just recently (like, two days ago) picked up a Trick Dominator pedal, which has metallic beaters. I do like the feel of these (a bit heavier than the DW due to the slightly longer shaft), however, they are not quite as loud as the DW's (because of their rounded shape, I presume).
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Old 09-16-2012, 02:22 AM
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The standard dw felt beater really offers the lowest note I have found. Never tried a bomber but it looks like it would need to be shaved or something to get any attack no? Sounds funny. Shave your beater for more attack...
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Old 09-16-2012, 02:50 AM
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:36 AM
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I use a standard felt DW beater. I had to file off the bottom of the rod so it would fit into my Trick pedal. Trick makes great pedals but they have strange little stock beaters:



At the time I couldn't play drums at home but the beater seemed to hit my foot practice pad at an angle, like the bottom of the flat front surface would dig into the head if I put it on the drum.

I also have a fluffy woolly beater called a Vater Bomber. It's great in very low volume situations but once things get a tad louder you need the definition of a harder beater.
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:38 AM
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I also have a fluffy woolly beater called a Vater Bomber. It's great in very low volume situations but once things get a tad louder you need the definition of a harder beater.
+1. I love my V. Bomber. Sounds awesome on my 26" kick.
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:37 AM
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I use the traditional felt beater. Just nice for me...though for some reason my kick sounds abit clicky from the drummer's POV but I like that ;)
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:47 AM
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I use the traditional felt beater. Just nice for me...though for some reason my kick sounds abit clicky from the drummer's POV but I like that ;)
Usually in Malaysia all surfaces of a room(our houses, shop lots, etc.) is hard - tiles, concrete or gypsum board.
So the drums automatically gets a hard, usually unpleasant, sound. In a larger room we get Phil Collins drum sound for free -)
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:48 AM
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I'm using the stock felt beaters on my Demon Drive. I'm thinking of trying the wood ones.

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Old 09-16-2012, 08:26 AM
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i use two beaters.

my main beater is a round yamaha, very similar to the first beater the OP uses. its very light but still gives a good amount of volume. feels amazing.

for lighter stuff, soft jazz and ballads i will switch to my vater bomber. gives a really nice soft "boomy" sound.

when doing gigs or rehearsals i always have the other beater in my stick-bag so that I can adjust my sound to the room.i think its good to have more than one beater available at any time so that you can adjust your sound. sometimes i even switch the beater for a specific song and then back again afterwards. it only takes a minute or so.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:32 AM
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good topic, as i've been thinking of going with the old school round beater. it seems to be a case of They Got It Right The First Time.

i use the stock Imperialstar beater:




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Old 09-16-2012, 10:32 AM
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I used a stock DW felt beater for quite a while but recently have switched to a modified Axis stock beater.



The beater is made of hard plastic and I have wrapper it in wool yarn essentially the same way one would wrap a mallet. I think this combination is the best combination for what I do. I love feathering the kick for jazzier tunes and there is a satisfying strike for the heavier stuff. Sorry, I don't have a picture of my wrapped beater.
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Old 09-16-2012, 11:28 AM
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The DW stock beater seems to be popular amongst many here...

...as is the traditional round felt beater, which comes as a surprise, I though most of you would use "modern" design beaters, but hey, the old type felt beater has been around for a long long time now, and it's featured on so many iconic recordings, I guess it will never go out of fashion :)

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Lol, is it very heavy? It must be loud, but does it gives attack?

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At the time I couldn't play drums at home but the beater seemed to hit my foot practice pad at an angle, like the bottom of the flat front surface would dig into the head if I put it on the drum.
That's the good thing about Tama's IC beaters, you can adjust the angle of the beaters on the shaft to hit the head/pad completely flat.

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I'm thinking of trying the wood ones...
I use to play wood beaters back in the days of my double bass drums kit, it's the only time I ever broke a batter head, they're not drumhead friendly unless you use some patches.
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:41 PM
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I use this for Grunge and Punk rock.
I almost spit out my coffee with this one... Hopefully you still have flushable toilets in the house.

I use the Danmar felts myself.
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Old 09-16-2012, 01:24 PM
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Usually in Malaysia all surfaces of a room(our houses, shop lots, etc.) is hard - tiles, concrete or gypsum board.
So the drums automatically gets a hard, usually unpleasant, sound. In a larger room we get Phil Collins drum sound for free -)
Yeah...my room is concrete and wood.

Though I wounder what is a soft surface? I don't suppose they use sponge to build a house right? o.O

What beater do you favor?
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:40 PM
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I have a couple of custom made beaters by Bigfoot. Currently I'm using Stan the skull.

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Old 09-16-2012, 05:28 PM
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I just switched to a Danmar wood beater on my 26". I haven't used one since my Thrash days.. It seems to have added just the right amount of crack to the boom.
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I have a couple of custom made beaters by Bigfoot. Currently I'm using Stan the skull.

God, that is funny! It's like "I'm so metal even my beater is scaryl"
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Is no one using skateboard wheels any longer?
Back in the 80's I used a Road Rider #2. I loved it!
I've been thinking of trying a skate wheel again but this time w/a modern wheel, maybe a 50-52mm. What's cool about using a skate wheel is you can get different durometer (hardness). The small ones, that would work well on a pedal, are typically pretty hard. I do have a small set of wheels (somewhere) that are soft (88A) that I think would work.
Also to note, good skate wheels have a good "rebound" - I guess that means bounce - might help the feel of the beater coming off the head.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:10 AM
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not being the skateboard generation myself, i'd never considered skateboard wheels.

but thinking back... back in '76, my neighbors had skateboards with these clear amber-ish wheels they were kind of soft, which surprised me because the previous skateboards i had seen had hard metallic street roller skating types of wheels. i was 16 and not interested in skateboarding or the 6 Million Dollar Man.

this was the dawn of the new generation of skateboarding. i was surprised that it was coming back, because my generation never skateboarded - it was something from the 50's.

i think those soft amber (more like motor oil colored) wheels would be an excellent material for bass drum beaters.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:49 AM
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Funny to run into this thead. After several years of playing the OP's #1 (regular felt beater), I switched to the OP's #2 just for a change. I have to thank Mad About Drums as I had no idea that the little thing on the shaft was a weight! Cool! Now I have something else to play around with! :)
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I'm using the stock felt beaters on my Demon Drive. I'm thinking of trying the wood ones.

That's what I'm using, but unfortunately they are almost completely warn out (the felt one that is). Thinking of picking up a pair of the pearl quad beaters.

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Old 09-19-2012, 09:24 PM
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I'm not the most experienced, but I do know that I love the rubber Iron Cobra beaters. They have a boom that I've not heard in the few other beaters I've tried.
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:22 AM
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I've used the Danmar felt and wood in the past. Good stuff.

Trying to find the best sound and feel, I went through several beaters, and had the guys in the band at the time listen and tell me which one sounded the best. I had a feeling, and knew what I liked behind the drum, but I knew they could tell me what sounded cool out front.

It was the OLD version DW that sounded best.
There was actually a slight difference between the older more angled DW beater (where the plastic angles into the felt) and the latest one (which is now about 10 years old haha!).

When I went to get a second beater for my other pedal, all they had on the wall was the square one, which sounded different (after I put it on). I took it back and looked through their stock and bought the 4 or 5 remaining angled beaters.
Maybe it was overkill, but I wasn't taking any chances, and that beater still sounds the best to me when I get the itch to try something else.
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:22 AM
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I switch between two types.



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These days I'm using the DW more. I like the weight of it for heavier music. It seems to produce a louder more round tone than the much lighter tama beater, which I like for the more focused sharp sound. One odd thing is that I prefer the lighter tama beater for un-ported kick drums, and the dw for ported heads... Something about the rebound properties.

The other thing I really dig about the dw is the difference between each side. The thick soft felt side produces and entirely different tone and feel than the large-surface-area plastic/rubber side, while the weight of the beater gives "solidity" in both cases. Sometimes I'll reach down with a drum key between songs and turn it around for the next tune.
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same beater ...always....for all styles

Danmar Felt...best beater made in my opinion

hard enough for rock and funk......just soft enough for jazz

exactly what I need

Any difference between Danmar felt and my Yamaha classic felt beater,stock version? They look pretty much the same,don't they?

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Old 10-05-2012, 04:57 PM
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Any difference between Danmar felt and my Yamaha classic felt beater,stock version? They look pretty much the same,don't they?

they are pretty similar yeah

the Danmar just feels like it is constructed better to me

I never liked the nut on top....and the Danmar is slightly more rounded

same consistency though
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DW beater with the heavy rubber side on the bass drum head. Been playing it this way for years. Love the weight, feel and most importantly the boom I get outta my 26" bass drum! I never did like any felt sides.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:53 PM
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I've been wanting to experiment with the beater striking at the apex of the swing(right when the weight of the beater is over the center of balance) so I bought some Sonic Hammer Beaters for my AXIS Pedals.

No experimenting yet though....would welcome any comments from folks that have tried 'em.
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Sorry to bring up an old thread but I wanted to ask the Iron Cobra players if they use the weights and where on the beater do you guys have them set? I have one on the bottom of the beater shaft and then another right below the beater head. Trying to go for the maximum punch without the effort.
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