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Old 04-16-2013, 07:55 PM
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Default Yamaha Recording Custom Discontinued

I just got an email entitled "Premier Snare Drum Launch" from Drum Center of Portsmouth. At the end of the email it say this:
"And as a note to our Yamaha Drummers, Yamaha is Discontinuing the following lines. The FINAL date for ordering these drums is June 28th, 2013. There will be no exceptions after that."

Maple Custom Absolute

Birch Custom Absolute

Club Custom

Oak Custom

Recording Custom

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Kinda surprised to hear about the Absolute Series but REALLY surprised to see that they're discontinuing their Recording Custom Line. Those have been around for a LONG time.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:59 PM
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Yups:

The reason, and the debate about it is here:
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...d.php?t=105720
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:59 PM
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I just got an email entitled "Premier Snare Drum Launch" from Drum Center of Portsmouth. At the end of the email it say this:
"And as a note to our Yamaha Drummers, Yamaha is Discontinuing the following lines. The FINAL date for ordering these drums is June 28th, 2013. There will be no exceptions after that."

Maple Custom Absolute

Birch Custom Absolute

Club Custom

Oak Custom

Recording Custom

Sub-Kick

All Concept Series Snare Drums

All Wedges

All Snare Wires


Kinda surprised to hear about the Absolute Series but REALLY surprised to see that they're discontinuing their Recording Custom Line. Those have been around for a LONG time.
What it is, is that Yamaha is shifting production from the Japanese plant (which is now Sakae Drums) to the new Chinese plant, and therefore discontinuing all the products made in the Japanese plant. See this thread: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ghlight=yamaha
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:01 PM
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Thanks guys. I swear I tried to find an existing thread but came up short.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:49 PM
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....Kinda surprised to hear about the Absolute Series but REALLY surprised to see that they're discontinuing their Recording Custom Line. Those have been around for a LONG time.

Probably comes down to sales volume. They have been around a long time, and were really popular, but there's so many other drums available now, that they might not have been selling like before.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:56 PM
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Likely they'll be cheaper now. Looks like I'm working some more hours this summer haha. Or maybe I'll check out the new lines that will replace 'em.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:09 AM
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Are Yamaha fanboys gonna buy Sakae drums now?
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:10 AM
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The Subkick should have a market. I wonder if Russ Miller's departure to Mapex have anything to do with that?

The Recording Custom is an institution - don't worry they will bring it back sooner or later.

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Old 04-17-2013, 04:14 AM
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Are Yamaha fanboys gonna buy Sakae drums now?
Well, I like Sakae's finishes and it looks like they've taken a lot of the best of Yamaha's hardware and put interesting spins on it. But then, Yamaha's done some interesting things with the new Live Custom. I'll see what it looks like after the whole reshuffle and make my move then. In the meantime, still happy with the Yammies I've got.
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:45 PM
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The Subkick should have a market. I wonder if Russ Miller's departure to Mapex have anything to do with that?

The Recording Custom is an institution - don't worry they will bring it back sooner or later.

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Personally, I believe most of the lines will come back with a slightly different name and a few new twists to the make...JMO...
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:17 PM
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I'm really looking forward to seeing what comes out in the next year or two. I also wonder if there will be some big time clearance deals happening in the not so distant future.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:07 PM
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I also wonder if there will be some big time clearance deals happening in the not so distant future.
Yea, I'm kinda hoping that the PHX kits go on sale..would really like a textured black sunburst kit!:)...although I don't think the PHX kits are going away...also, pretty certain they were not made at the Sakae factory...oh well it's worth hoping for at least...

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Old 04-17-2013, 06:17 PM
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Are Yamaha fanboys gonna buy Sakae drums now?
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One of the things that puts me off Sakae drums is the name. Now, I know that isn't a very musical reason, but it doesn't do anything for me. It's like DW lugs.... I think they're ugly and always have.

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Sounds like a marketing move. Take good stuff away, make people frantic, then re-introduce it later to big sales. Just a guess.
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Sounds like a marketing move. Take good stuff away, make people frantic, then re-introduce it later to big sales. Just a guess.
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Likely they'll be cheaper now. Looks like I'm working some more hours this summer haha. Or maybe I'll check out the new lines that will replace 'em.
Nothing can ever replace a set of Recording Customs. And the common mistake made by people is thinking that the Birch Customs are the same shells as the Recording Customs when actually they are not the same at all. My best advice to you if you want a "REAL" set of Recording Customs then get yourself an 80's kit. Two years ago I purchased a 33 year old Yamaha Recording Custom kit and today I wouldn't trade it for a brand new set of PHXs. They sound insane and better then any other kits I've owned and I've owned quite a few sets of Yammies from Birch Custom Absolutes, Beech Custom Absolutes and Maple Customs and these Recording Customs shame them all in sound. You just can't beat a nicely aged set of Yamaha Recording Customs.
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:18 AM
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You just can't beat a nicely aged set of Yamaha Recording Customs.
You mean something like these?
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And the common mistake made by people is thinking that the Birch Customs are the same shells as the Recording Customs when actually they are not the same at all.
They are the same shells..
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:00 PM
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Probably comes down to sales volume. They have been around a long time, and were really popular, but there's so many other drums available now, that they might not have been selling like before.


Sounds like a marketing move. Take good stuff away, make people frantic, then re-introduce it later to big sales. Just a guess.



Conflict of interest. SAKAE is making they're own drum line now, it was just a matter of time b/f the relationship turned corporate.

Wonder who owns (ends up with) the original air seal molds, YAMAHA or SAKAE?

OK, read the other thread-Yes, I'm the Product Manager for Yamaha Drums so I definitely have a connection. There were a few reasons for the move, one being staying competitive. The imbalance between the dollar and the Yen. As a parting gift, they were given all of the machinery and shell molds that Yamaha installed in their factory so the split is ammicable.

So hopefully YAMAHA just increased the value of all the older sets made in japan. SAKAE ends up with the molds, which hold the mystique of YAMAHA drums past going all the way back to the beginning.

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Old 06-21-2013, 04:15 AM
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And Sakae's new drum lines are ridiculously priced. Their new maple series and maple/bubinga hybrid series are running over $3K for 18/14/12 setups--$3K for 3 drums!? (One drum shop online has an 18/14/12 Sakae maple/bubinga jazz kit for $3600!!) Absurd, especially when inflation will hit in the near future and sink everything.

Sakae and Tama Star drums are nice and sound good, but worth over $3K or $4K for 3 drums? To quote LL Cool J, "I don't think so."
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And Sakae's new drum lines are ridiculously priced. Their new maple series and maple/bubinga hybrid series are running over $3K for 18/14/12 setups--$3K for 3 drums!? (One drum shop online has an 18/14/12 Sakae maple/bubinga jazz kit for $3600!!) Absurd, especially when inflation will hit in the near future and sink everything.

Sakae and Tama Star drums are nice and sound good, but worth over $3K or $4K for 3 drums? To quote LL Cool J, "I don't think so."
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:53 AM
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Well it may or may not be an indication, but they're showing pic's on their web site of one of their HH stands with a bent rod.

Chamber Specific Technology- Im sure SAKAE got from YAMAHA'S PHX line, having (very) hardwood ply's make contact with the head, even tho they didn't produce the line for YAMAHA.

SAKAE has a series made in Taiwan-ROAD ANEW, cheaper. Either way they'll have a hard time making it with their price points IMO.
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