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Old 07-15-2014, 12:53 AM
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I have a student who is a "stick shredder". I gave him a new pair of Vater sticks less that a month ago when I took away his old shredded sticks. I don't know if he is playing on cinder blocks or what. At least he's practicing. We are going to try something new, though. Stay tuned.

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Old 07-15-2014, 01:19 AM
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I have a student who is a "stick shredder". I gave him a new pair of Vater sticks less that a month ago when I took away his old shredded sticks. I don't know if he is playing on cinder blocks or what. At least he's practicing. We are going to try something new, though. Stay tuned.

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Old 07-15-2014, 03:42 AM
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So, what exactly is wrong with the stick? :-)
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:22 AM
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Default Re: The Stick Shredder strikes again

I'm not sure what the issue is here - my sticks do that too.

Crash cymbals, hi hats, and a little elbow grease will do that. Normal stuff, IMO/E.

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Old 07-15-2014, 05:48 AM
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Zickos, I've known some players who use heavy rimshot backbeats and they can shred sticks much more than that in a single gig. But if the kid's playing jazz .......
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:23 AM
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Tell that kid to go buy his own sticks ;)
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Old 07-15-2014, 07:06 AM
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Zickos, I've known some players who use heavy rimshot backbeats and they can shred sticks much more than that in a single gig. But if the kid's playing jazz .......
Guilty as charged. I typically play with hearing protection which means I have to play louder to hear myself better, so this kind of thing is not uncommon. Rim shots for days. :)

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Old 07-15-2014, 08:00 AM
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The position of the wear is too high on the stick for it to be rim shots. My rim shot wear is approximately 1/3 way into the stick. I've only ever seen this kind of wear when the drummer sits too low or the hi-hat is too high. I imagine there could be other reasons (upside-down hat cymbals, off center hat cymbals, leaving the top lug off your ride and playing too far in on the bell so the stick hits the cymbal-stand-post/threads).

So my feeling is that something is in an awkward position/placement. Have the student record themselves, and the cause should be recognizable.
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:08 AM
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You'd look like that too, Zickos......if we continually pounded you into the edge of a cymbal or hi hat. Sticks aren't meant to last forever......especially for more volume oriented playing. Just as rock > scissors, so metal > wood.

I'd say a month for a pair of sticks is going ok. I've chewed 'em up quicker than that before.
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:34 AM
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I gave him a new pair of Vater sticks less that a month ago
A month is pretty good; I haven't had sticks last me that long in decades.

I used to ruin my tips like that in the past, but I don't anymore. I have no idea what caused it or why I don't do it anymore though; probably something about how I strike the edges of my cymbals. These days my sticks wear out from constant rimshots, as you can clearly tell. Also note the kevlar snare head, which helps keep my drumhead costs down :-)
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Old 07-15-2014, 01:35 PM
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I wondered about that Kamak. Might be accidental rims or chopped on high hihats.

Pass of ERA, you and many other fine players make a meal of their sticks. No biggie for a hard hitting rock drummer, but a bit dodgy for a student of a jazz drummer :)
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Old 07-15-2014, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: The Stick Shredder strikes again

Mine look worse than that after one rehersal. I go through a pair of sticks a week so thats pretty common for me. For me the cause is my hi-hats. I keep them very high and I am constantly hitting the shoulder of the stick on the edge of the hats. I have tried lowering the hats but I dont care for the sound as much. I like them loud and loose. Collateral stick damage is just part of the deal.
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