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Old 03-24-2014, 11:40 AM
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Default Super pedal for heel toe & Moeller technique - Check it out!

Hi;

I did the demo for this awesome pedal Joggle Board from Bullet & Kitch - really great pedal!!

(I play in the video at 1:20min) What do you think?

Thanks and all the best,

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...dtm-drum-pedal
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Old 03-24-2014, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Super pedal for heel toe & Moeller technique - Check it out!

The link doesn't work for me. (Added it!)

For some reason, I thought that Natal drums was involved in this project at some point.

It doesn't appear to have gotten off the ground, hence the Kickstarter campaign.

I'd love to read impressions of anyone that has tried one of these. The only thing that I have come across is this so far: http://www.bulletandkitch.co.uk/

Aside from the block addition, this looks like an outstanding pedal overall. Initially priced at 299 pounds which puts it in Trick/Axis/Malleus territory yet still priced lower than DW's new direct drive model.

I guess the method of action after activating the heel block assembly is just changing the height of the heel portion of the pedal making it a shorter drop for the heel plus the shape of the pedal board should help.

It's nice to have the choice on the pedal, otherwise, I wonder if the benefit could be replicated to a degree on a DW pedal by adding one or more of the stackable heel plates. ???

Here is an edit to add the correct link,
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...dtm-drum-pedal Very nice Klemen!!!

And I have zero affiliation with the manufacturer or anyone else for that matter. I'm just an average BD pedal whore. :-)

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Old 03-25-2014, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: Super pedal for heel toe & Moeller technique - Check it out!

Is the block on the fulcrum only for heel-toe?
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: Super pedal for heel toe & Moeller technique - Check it out!

Certainly looks like an interesting concept, and a very well-designed pedal to boot, but what of people who don't play exclusively using heel-toe? That wedge looks like it would get in the way of people who slide their feet around their pedals a lot. Plus, playing the pedals further down on the footboard looks like it would be uncomfortable.

Klemen, there's some nice footwork in that video. Good stuff!
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:59 AM
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Default Re: Super pedal for heel toe & Moeller technique - Check it out!

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Certainly looks like an interesting concept, and a very well-designed pedal to boot, but what of people who don't play exclusively using heel-toe? That wedge looks like it would get in the way of people who slide their feet around their pedals a lot. Plus, playing the pedals further down on the footboard looks like it would be uncomfortable.
That would be my concern as well. Even if this pedal gives you lightning speed heel toe, is the wedge in your way when you play slower parts?
It wouldn't worry a heel up player I guess but anyone playing heel down during non-double bass parts would be in trouble I'm guessing.
At any rate, would love to hear some more first hand experiences from klemen or anyone else !
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: Super pedal for heel toe & Moeller technique - Check it out!

Will this, could this, should this be the first $2k MSRP double pedal?

Won't you be my neighbor?
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:09 AM
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Cool pedal concept/design indeed. It looks strange but it seems to work!
Also very nice playing and footwork, Klemen. It's inspiring and fun to watch.
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: Super pedal for heel toe & Moeller technique - Check it out!

I'm surprised to see a pedal that advertises heel-toe playability as its USP though. Would be interesting to try one out, but I suspect it'll be a while before I'll see one in a store near me.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:24 PM
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I am having a hard time finding price information for the Bullet and Kitch pedals - went to their web site but could not find any numbers.... usually a bad sign for affordability...
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Default Re: Super pedal for heel toe & Moeller technique - Check it out!

link will not work for me.
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Old 04-01-2014, 08:56 AM
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link will not work for me.
Have a look at post #2 by evogel...
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:01 AM
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I am having a hard time finding price information for the Bullet and Kitch pedals - went to their web site but could not find any numbers.... usually a bad sign for affordability...
It looks like it's available but only available through the Kickstarter campaign for now. On the link above, click on the top portion of the page that is labeled "Kickstarter" and the prices and availability are listed.

It is expensive right now. Higher than offerings from Trick, Axis, Malleus and even the new DW direct drive pedal. The shipping cost adds quite a bit more for US and Canada residents.

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Old 04-01-2014, 10:05 PM
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I'd love to read impressions of anyone that has tried one of these.
I've tried them, but unfortunately, my lack of skills (or desire) to test out the heal toe aspect means my opinion is not much use to you.

They were well built, & the guys designing/building them are really good people. All that said, I rate the build quality on the Malleus pedal to be superior, & by some margin.
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