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Old 01-24-2013, 06:45 AM
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Default Yamaha Live Custom Series 2013

Well..... here they are. Don't know the specs.

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Old 01-24-2013, 08:43 AM
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Here is some info :

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Old 01-24-2013, 09:40 AM
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Recorded in Holland during North Sea Jazz Festival (were all the cats played) in a hotel room. Catchin the first inpression of the national and international drummers

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch/?v=L1EW...WVCkmb3U&gl=NL

So the Oak is back :D
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:20 AM
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Nice! Thicker plies, & less of them, will always deliver more tone. I like oak as a tone wood. I prefer it to birch for that "scooped" EQ sound, & oak delivers live too if you don't mind a few overtones in your sound (gives the drums some life IMO). Generally, I find oak works well if tuned up a bit + nice & open with single ply heads. It doesn't work so well if you like highly muffled heads.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:42 PM
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Well. I do find them round sounding with Pinstripes too. For me the clear thin heads gave me to much overtones.

Im curious about the weight with these thicker shells. Which was quite a lot on the Oak 1.0 and 1.2.
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So this is a living, portable oak tree crafted into a drum kit that you can play?
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:18 PM
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Anyone know if these will be offered alongside the regular Oak Customs?

Also, if Oaks are supposed to be pretty loud to begin with - they're promoted that way anyways - is there really a demand to try and make them louder. Or is it just another marketing gimmick?
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:19 PM
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So this is a living, portable oak tree crafted into a drum kit that you can play?
I think they only come alive when you play them - LOL.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:32 PM
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.... is there really a demand to try and make them louder. Or is it just another marketing gimmick?


You uses whatever is available to be used, you don't need a reason, just have use whatever is available. If OAK LIVE is louder, you push it, whatever it is, the goal is create an illusion of something different, something you don't have... then hopefully you'll want to buy it.

Flash a lot of teeth, make it at least look interesting, people will find subtle differences and that's what they count on to sell. Everyone wants to be part of a good thing.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:02 PM
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[i].... the goal is create an illusion of something different, something you don't have... then hopefully you'll want to buy it.

Flash a lot of teeth, make it at least look interesting, people will find subtle differences and that's what they count on to sell..

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Old 01-25-2013, 12:56 AM
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Got to say, I'm a fan of the green fade finish (similar to the one we last saw on the Rock Tours).
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:13 AM
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Nice! Thicker plies, & less of them, will always deliver more tone. I like oak as a tone wood. I prefer it to birch for that "scooped" EQ sound, & oak delivers live too if you don't mind a few overtones in your sound (gives the drums some life IMO). Generally, I find oak works well if tuned up a bit + nice & open with single ply heads. It doesn't work so well if you like highly muffled heads.
Are the Live Customs fewer plies? According the Yamaha website, the specs of the Oak Live Customs are the following:
  • bass drums: 8ply / 9.6mm
  • toms, floors, and snares: 6ply / 7.2mm
  • bearing edge: 45 degree R1.5

The Live Customs are also made in China, according to their badges, so I'm guessing they will be considered more affordable than the Absolutes, RCs, and PHX lines?
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:14 AM
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Recorded in Holland during North Sea Jazz Festival (were all the cats played) in a hotel room. Catchin the first inpression of the national and international drummers

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch/?v=L1EW...WVCkmb3U&gl=NL

So the Oak is back :D
But not made in Japan like the original Oak Customs. The Live Custom badge reads, "Made in China."
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:35 AM
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But not made in Japan like the original Oak Customs. The Live Custom badge reads, "Made in China."
That should place them in a lower price range than the Oak Customs then.

EDIT: moved into the slot between the Stage Customs and Oak Customs formerly held by the discontinued Rock Tour? That'd be slick.

I wonder how that 'Dark Silver Finished Hardware' will hold up in the long run?

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Old 01-25-2013, 04:47 PM
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It makes sense, Yamaha is just following suit. First they introduced the Tour Custom to allow those to enjoy an all maple shell at a lower price point than the MC's. Then the Stage Custom birch came along and allowed those to enjoy an all birch shell at a lower price point than the RC's. I would imagine that they applied the same principle in thinking here. I would imagine that this will allow those that would like to explore the opportunity of having an all oak shell that might not have been able to afford to do so before at the Oak Custom price point a chance to do so.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:46 PM
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http://www.musicradar.com/news/drums...rum-kit-570164

"....Live Custom drum sets (Estimated RRP from 1672 inc vat ) are scheduled to ship May 2013..."


1672 pounds = $2,641.43 USD (if I'm reading that right).

No mention of what configuration that's for, although the pic shows a 5 piece.

Here's another one: http://www.mi-pro.co.uk/index.php/ne...m-drums/017342

Time will tell, but something about it doesn't sound right to me
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:31 AM
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1672 pounds = $2,641.43 USD (if I'm reading that right).e

List price.. not what you pay. This is from the China factory...... so personally I would not pay over roughly half of that..
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:43 AM
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List price.. not what you pay. This is from the China factory...... so personally I would not pay over roughly half of that..

Yep. That's why I said time will tell. It's a little early to speculate.
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:58 AM
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I literally just got back from seeing them in person.

They are replacing the oak custom.

Yes, made in china.

Yes, they will cost less than the Oak Custom.

The point of "why are they louder?" is you can get away with a huge deep sound out of smaller drums.

The 14X22 sounds huge!!

The 20" bass drum sounds like a 22".

There did seem to be diminishing returns when going up in size, in that they had an 18X24, and IMHO it didn't sound as big or as good as the smaller bass drums.

Only 4 finishes, but they all look great in person.

I told my Yamaha guy I'm seriously considering one.
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:19 AM
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I literally just got back from seeing them in person.

They are replacing the oak custom.

Yes, made in china.

Yes, they will cost less than the Oak Custom.

The point of "why are they louder?" is you can get away with a huge deep sound out of smaller drums.

The 14X22 sounds huge!!

The 20" bass drum sounds like a 22".

There did seem to be diminishing returns when going up in size, in that they had an 18X24, and IMHO it didn't sound as big or as good as the smaller bass drums.

Only 4 finishes, but they all look great in person.

I told my Yamaha guy I'm seriously considering one.

Sounds pretty cool.. That kick is more or less same thickness as the original Maple Custom.. as are the toms..
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:37 AM
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....The point of "why are they louder?" is you can get away with a huge deep sound out of smaller drums....

Did they happen to have an 18" diameter kick there, by any chance?
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:29 AM
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I would imagine the 18" sounds at least as loud as a 20" BD. My 20" oak custom BD is definitely the loudest voice on my kit - almost to loud. I have to put a pillow control it a bit.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:02 PM
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Any 18"kicks?
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If they are replacing the Oak Customs I'd best get a few more ordered before they go the way of the Beech Customs.


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Old 01-26-2013, 06:38 PM
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If they are replacing the Oak Customs I'd best get a few more ordered before they go the way of the Beech Customs.


Time to send out a few emails.
If you hear of any 16" silver sparkle floor tom, I'm looking please let me know...
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:59 PM
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Sounds pretty cool.. That kick is more or less same thickness as the original Maple Custom.. as are the toms..
It seems like they took a lot of what they learned from the Maple Custom and applied it with an oak shell.

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Did they happen to have an 18" diameter kick there, by any chance?
Yes. But I didn't test it, as I'm not really an 18" BD kind of guy.

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Yes, 18" bass drums are in the line.

Prices are less than the oak custom. I don't recall the exact $ I was quoted as their target price, other than a 5pc shell pack should sell for well under $2000.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:34 AM
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It seems like they took a lot of what they learned from the Maple Custom and applied it with an oak shell....


If you get back to the booth, can you find out how close they are to rolling these out - soon, or several months, or what?
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:17 AM
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If you get back to the booth, can you find out how close they are to rolling these out - soon, or several months, or what?
Soon is what I've been told.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:28 PM
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Yamaha Q type strainer:


DC3 type butt:



Btw some interesting changes....



Thicker oak ply produce deeper sound

10% thicker than the plies used in the Oak Custom, the oak plies found in these shells deliver sound with greater power on the live stage.


Black appearance

Dark silver hardware delivers dominating image further heightened with the all black shell interiors.


Y.E.S.S.

YESS mounts are designed to minimize contact between the shell and the mount to deliver a wider dynamic range and longer sustain.


Absolute Lugs


Sells feature Yamaha's exclusive Absolute Lugs. Their sophisticated design adds a touch of class to the drums.


Die-cast Bass Drum Hooks


Bass drums feature newly designed die-cast hooks, which provide noise free function through the use of an insertion plate.

Open Type Floor Tom Bracket


Open type Floor Tom bracket includes wing bolts. It's designed to clamp tightly on the leg without damaging it, to save time on stage, and to deliver optimum decay control.


Emperor Head

Toms and floor toms are equipped with clear Remo Emperor heads, which are known for their deep sound and great durability.


2.3mm Dyna Hoops

Thicker steel hoops offer a tighter sound and sharper response.

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Old 01-27-2013, 01:32 PM
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Musiqman.. bro.. reduce those images. WOW..
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I love Oak Customs. The rehearsal studio I work I out of switched 7 rooms to them. It's between them and Tama bubingas for my live kit.

(My studio kit it going to be on a whole 'nother level.)

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Musiqman.. bro.. reduce those images. WOW..
I cant. Yamaha makes them only this big.
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Those pics are available in a more manageable form by clicking on the ' Features ' tab on this page:

http://ca.yamaha.com/en/products/mus...om/?mode=model
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If you get back to the booth, can you find out how close they are to rolling these out - soon, or several months, or what?
More specifically: US dealers will have the first batch at the end of March.
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I saw them at NAMM and they're really nice drums. I love the fit and finish of the stained shell interiors. I'm sure they sound great.

But for me and the type of gigs that I play, I would have rather have quiter drums and mic them than louder drums. Afterall, I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Recording Custom player. :-)
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Anyone know the time frame that the Oak Customs will be discontinued? I have a brand new 2 up 2 down Musashi black set untouched in boxes in my storage unit. Ive been wanting to order an 8in tom to add to it but have been putting it off for 2-3 months. Guess I better get on it...
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I LOVE these!

I was a little skeptical at first because of the "made in china" thing, but after hearing them in person, playing them a little and watching them miced up in a big venue, I'm sold!

This will be my next kit, should I get one.
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Its good that I sold my Oak but NOT my 8x7 Musashi Black tom ;)
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Anyone seen any kit prices yet? I've only seen prices for individual drums, and those are usually quite a bit higher than getting a pre-configured kit.

$820 (USD) for an 18" bass drum:

http://www.interstatemusic.com/87945...NB1814AWS.aspx

$930 for a 24" with no mount: http://www.fullcompass.com/product/442614.html

I'm not too pleased that they changed the bass drum mount, but still haven't seen any in person yet.
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Its good that I sold my Oak but NOT my 8x7 Musashi Black tom ;)
I ordered my Musashi 8in add on for my Oak Custom. Its on back order and will arrive in 4 months...ugh.
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