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Old 02-02-2013, 11:06 PM
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I picked up an 8" coated G2 this morning to put on the brand new add on tom for my Ludwig Epic kit. I do have to say that it tuned up really quickly. I have a clear G1 on the bottom of the older style. My 10" next to it has an older G2 that I put on in November and I have been fighting with it a bit to get it fit between my new 8" and my 12" mounted toms.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:00 PM
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I just picked up a 14" coated g2 level 360 from my local GC. I wanted to get a 10,12 and 16 as well but they only had the old ones. I think trying to buy these all in one shot will be online and calling to verify as well.

Now the question....do I put this new G2 on my tama b/b floor tom or on my Saturn floor tom???
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:08 PM
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I just picked up a 14" coated g2 level 360 from my local GC. I wanted to get a 10,12 and 16 as well but they only had the old ones. I think trying to buy these all in one shot will be online and calling to verify as well.
Keep in mind that there are plenty of heads out there with the Level 360 collar that don't feature the new Level 360 logo. Our heads have been in production with the Level 360 collar design since September of 2012. We did this "under-the-radar" in order to help stores circulate through inventory.

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Old 02-08-2013, 08:46 PM
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Keep in mind that there are plenty of heads out there with the Level 360 collar that don't feature the new Level 360 logo. Our heads have been in production with the Level 360 collar design since September of 2012. We did this "under-the-radar" in order to help stores circulate through inventory.

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Thanks for the reply! Is there any way to tell if I have the new head if the new logo is not stamped on there?
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:29 PM
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I'll have the chance to A - B the new design on a magazine review/test this coming Monday, so I'll chime back in here when I come back from that. I'll run some on our review kit, & as that kit has edges that aren't the common industry standard, I'm interested to see how they behave.

Ben, I have a direct OEM question for you. The Evans collar has always sat a few mm lower from the bearing edge than Remo or Aquarian. Is the overall tensioned distance from bearing edge to collar the same as existing Evans heads or more in line with the distance used by Remo/Aquarian? This matters to us, as the external rering on our Origin drums needs to take any increase in that distance into account. We already have to create a bigger clearance in respect of Evans heads, so I certainly wouldn't want to see that increase.

As most here know, we supply genuine Evans heads as standard on all our drums unless otherwise specified.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:00 PM
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Re: Availability

I ordered from Musicians Friend, a few days after NAMM. Received a 360 logoed, Evans Coated Power Center Dot 13" size for my Mapex Phosphor Bronze snare.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:25 PM
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I had a chance to play with my new Level 360 G2 head yesterday on two different drums.

First drum - a recently acquired vintage 14" Ludwig Supra. My new G2 level 360 was tight on the drum, so tight that I had to apply pressure to get it to fit and that made it wrinkle in some spots from simply trying to fit it on the drum.

Seeing how bad the fit was I decided not to go further and install hoop and lugs. Out of curiousity I measured the drum shell across all lugs and at some spots I discovered an 1/8th of an inch difference. This seems to be normal for many drums in my experience.

So I pull a new Evans power center reverse dot head out of he box that i've had sitting around for a couple months and that fit better where it did not need force to fit on but it was on the verge of being too tight a fit.

Anyway...the Evans PCRD head worked out for my vintage supra.


Second drum I tried the new G2 level 360 head was my 14" mapex Saturn floor tom. The fit was better on this drum but I could not spin it freely around the drum, there seemed to be a couple rough spots that messed up my attempt to free spin it slowly around the drum.

In regards to sitting without rocking motion it sat better than the remo vintage emperor that was on there previously but still had a slight rocking motion.

It tuned up like any other head but don't think it tuned up faster and better. I believe the whole point if this new collar design was to get the head to sit flat on a shell without rocking motion while able to spin freely as well.

It failed on my vintage supra and did ok on my mapex saturn.

Final thoughts, I feel let down.
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:34 PM
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I ordered from Musicians Friend, a few days after NAMM. Received a 360 logoed, Evans Coated Power Center Dot 13" size for my Mapex Phosphor Bronze snare.
I spoke w/ Musician's Friend just few minutes ago, on the phone. The gal was just about completely clueless of the "Level 360". Shen then spoke to her manager...and after: I quote "There's no way we cant tell if it's the new head design or not, as there is no date stamped..."

I knew this brought up about abut at least 3 talking points (new logo, etc) but I knew I was drilling a dry hole. I said, "The manager does know what I'm talking about w/ the new head design, correct?", "Yes, he knows...there's just no way to tell.. unless when you get it and you can see they are not..." I responded, "That is the point of this entire phone call. I will have to look elsewhere." I am not near a drum shop. I shop online...Google Evans Level 360 and it still does not lead you to any online suppliers... what to do here....?
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:07 PM
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I need new heads for my 16" tom, so I might as well try something new.
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:57 AM
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I'm sure this head will be great but it's already been done by Aquarian.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:00 AM
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By LOCAL ! ! Brick and Mortar stores are the way to go even if it involves a bit of travel. Knowledge and servicing of the products that you use and they sell, can only be found at a "real store" These box stores flat out suck. They employ "clerks" for the most part. Hi, can I help you ? are you ready to check out ? That's all they know. Oh ! ! I forgot ! ! "May I see your receipt ? " Go into a Brick and Mortar store and ask a technical question or product availability question and you will most likely get and hear more info than you need.
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:02 AM
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As mentioned, not an available or even best option. Thanks.
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:38 AM
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Final thoughts, I feel let down.
Hmm, I think I found some Evans marketing material in an old magazine... let's have a look...



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Old 02-23-2013, 05:35 AM
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Which models are affected?
All 6-20" film-based drumheads- batters, resos, snare heads, snare sides, marching tenors, etc. Next up will be bass heads...
So let me get this right because I'm thinking of buying a bass drum EMAD head soon. This drum shop I go to will start selling Evans heads next month. I'd imagine everything they get there will be new, so if I buy an EMAD there, will it have the Level 360 now? Because Ben, EvansSpecialist, said bass drum heads will be coming later.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:15 AM
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I have a new Genera on my home made wood shell drum. I slapped it down, it fit perfectly, I tightened it up, which went quickly and uniformly. If you hand tighten the tension rods evenly, then tune each lug an equal number of turns, it just tunes up almost right on the money. I'm impressed.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:44 PM
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I bought a 8", 10", and 14" onyx heads about 3 months ago from the local store. It was stock that's been there for a long while. They didn't have the 12" in stock. So, I threw them in the closet and forgot about them until yesterday. I went to the store, bought a 12" onyx, brought it home, and started installing them on my Pearl Export toms. I noticed the new 12" I picked up was in fact the new 360 design. But, it seemed to fit the shell no different than the others. But, I did notice how much easier it was to tune. I had to play around with the other size toms just a bit to get the sound I wanted. The 12" went where I wanted it to almost effortlessly compared to the others. I was kinda shocked though that it had the same wobbly play as the non-360 heads.
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:25 PM
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So let me get this right because I'm thinking of buying a bass drum EMAD head soon. This drum shop I go to will start selling Evans heads next month. I'd imagine everything they get there will be new, so if I buy an EMAD there, will it have the Level 360 now? Because Ben, EvansSpecialist, said bass drum heads will be coming later.
Bass drum heads won't be until late 2013/early 2014.

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I bought a 8", 10", and 14" onyx heads about 3 months ago from the local store. It was stock that's been there for a long while. They didn't have the 12" in stock. So, I threw them in the closet and forgot about them until yesterday. I went to the store, bought a 12" onyx, brought it home, and started installing them on my Pearl Export toms. I noticed the new 12" I picked up was in fact the new 360 design. But, it seemed to fit the shell no different than the others. But, I did notice how much easier it was to tune. I had to play around with the other size toms just a bit to get the sound I wanted. The 12" went where I wanted it to almost effortlessly compared to the others. I was kinda shocked though that it had the same wobbly play as the non-360 heads.
Chances are that the Onyx heads that you picked up a while back did in fact have the Level 360 collar. As I mentioned, we've had this in production since mid-to-late 2012.
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:36 AM
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Bass drum heads won't be until late 2013/early 2014.
Thanks for the reply. I'll still get the G1 resonant heads I need and make due with this old pinner bass drum head for now.
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I saw some new 360 Coated heads at the shop today.
The collar was lower, and there were no "ridges" in the area going into the hoop.
It was a smooth curve of material going into the hoop. Similar in look to an Aquarian head. Evans film, and coating is different from Aquarian, so they sound different, even if the collars look similar.
Tapping on the 360 head, the tone was a bit brighter, and cleaner than a couple other non-360 heads were. Those heads had the slightly crimped film at the edge going into the hoop and the sound was shorter on the tap.
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Old 02-28-2013, 03:24 AM
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Interesting, Karl, I just installed a coated G1 on a new snare today; I think I ordered the head from Amazon last June. It's just like what you describe, with a smooth edge going into the flesh hoop. The slightly older spare coated G2 I have (saving for the next head change on my Acrolite) has a scalloped crimping where the head enters the hoop.
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soooo when is this going to be in stores like guitar center?
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:18 AM
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soooo when is this going to be in stores like guitar center?
First, I would review the thread again because this subject (in general) has been discussed and answered.

Second, I just ordered and received from Musician's Friend a 13" coated G2 and a Hazy 300 snare side resonant for my Pork Pie snare. Both have the level 360 logo.

I also recently (2 weeks ago) bought and received from MF a coated 13" Power Center Underside Dot batter for my 13" Mapex bronze

Hopefully that answers the question about current availability and where you could get the Level 360 logoed heads.


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Anyone in Australia seen these yet?

As an aside, I killed an almost brand new G1 last week - it split along the bearing edge! I must've really overtightened the thing to make it split that way...
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First, I would review the thread again because this subject (in general) has been discussed and answered.

Second, I just ordered and received from Musician's Friend a 13" coated G2 and a Hazy 300 snare side resonant for my Pork Pie snare. Both have the level 360 logo.

I also recently (2 weeks ago) bought and received from MF a coated 13" Power Center Underside Dot batter for my 13" Mapex bronze

Hopefully that answers the question about current availability and where you could get the Level 360 logoed heads.


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+1.........bought a genera HD for my Black Beauty about three - four weeks ago from Musicians Friend................it has the 360 logo also.......................having a harder time tuning this snare than any I've ever had before.

I was hoping the 360 would cure the tuning issues..................doesn't sound bad, but I can't seem to get it right................could just be me.
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+1.........bought a genera HD for my Black Beauty about three - four weeks ago from Musicians Friend................it has the 360 logo also.......................having a harder time tuning this snare than any I've ever had before.

I was hoping the 360 would cure the tuning issues..................doesn't sound bad, but I can't seem to get it right................could just be me.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:49 AM
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Has anyone bought a drumhead pre-pack and received it with the level 360 logo? I was going to order a set of g2 coated online but so far everyone that has received drumheads with the new logo, they have been drumheads bought separately. Also I called a guitarcenter and they didn't have any pre packs with level 360 logo.
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Old 03-14-2013, 03:21 AM
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I ordered a pack of G2 10, 12, 14, then a single 8 and 16 from Amazon and I doubt if they are 360 but will know tomorrow. I emailed Amazon to try and get an answer and never heard back. I had no trouble with the original G2 so I will take my chances
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:57 PM
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Well, this Level 360 stuff might be the real deal.

I've had resonant black heads on all my toms (vintage Tama Superstars) for about a year now, but I recently acquired a new (to me....it's still vintage) 12" tom, so I had to order a resonant black head for it. I saw the Level 360 logo when it arrived, but not knowing anything about it, I assumed it was just some marketing ploy or whatever and didn't give it much more thought.

Yesterday I put the Level 360 reso on the 12" and also changed out the batter head on that one, as well as my 3 other toms, to Remo Emperors. So...same head combo on all drums, except the 12" has a 360 reso and the rest of the toms have the old non-360 resos.

With minimal work, the 12" immediately sounded like it had been tuned by gods. The rest of the toms sounded good, but VERY different from the 12"....like a completely different line of drums. The 12 sounded super focused with no "off" overtones at all, almost as if I added a moon gel to it...only better. The rest of the toms sounded...well...not like that.

Remember: I still had NO idea what the Level 360 thing was all about.

I actually thought there must be something different about my new tom (I suppose there still could be...guess I won't know for sure until I get the exact same head combo on all of 'em). I tried tuning the others to match, but never got them quite there. It wasn't until now that I remembered the Level 360 logo and wondered if that's the reason the 12 sounds so noticeably different. Searched the 'net, saw the Evans site, then came here.

If that IS the reason, then WOW...I'm impressed. Now I just gotta do some more testing to make sure this is actually the case before dropping the cash on all new resos to match.
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Old 03-15-2013, 03:25 AM
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I just received my 10, 12, 14 pack of G2 coated from Amazon.com, along with a single 8 and the 16 will be here tomorrow. I took off the previous heads and put these on in less than 45 minutes and that was with the resos being changed as well. In fact I decided to try something different . The previous batter heads were Evans Strata 1000, and I made those my newest reso heads. I was afraid they may sound dead but on the contrary the Gretsch Renowns just kept singing. The Strata are a 10 mill single ply head and all sounds good. I had been using G1 clears. The 360 series was also 22.00 cheaper from Amazon than MusiciansFriend. I got 5 heads for 48.00.
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:10 AM
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So the whole pack came with the new 360 logo?
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The whole pack came with the 360 series, the single 8 came with the 360, but the 16 did not. The 16 is not a problem as the material is the same and tunes very low for the sound I like
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:23 PM
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I just got a new Evans 12" Black Chrome head. It looks exactly like the older Evans heads, the collar doesn't look steep like the graphic on the Evans site and there is no Level 360 logo on it.
But according to the webshop, all the Evans heads they have in stock are the new design.

Maybe anyone can post a closeup picture of the new collar/rim on a Level 360 head to compare?

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As was mentioned in the thread earlier someone else ordered from the Evans site but the order was filled by another drum shop close to him and they sold him new-old stock. sounds like you got the same deal. The heads do not come from Evans directly
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:44 AM
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As was mentioned in the thread earlier someone else ordered from the Evans site but the order was filled by another drum shop close to him and they sold him new-old stock. sounds like you got the same deal. The heads do not come from Evans directly
Yeah, I understand. I got the head from Thomann.de, a large European (online) seller. They have a large stock but they also sell a lot so I wouldn't know what their in-out speed is, so if they are selling old or new heads.

So you're saying it is obvious to see the difference between an old and a new head?
Is there a way to make sure?
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I got this reply from Thomann.de:

Since September 2012 Evans is producing those 360 heads.
Until March 2013 year there´s no logo on them.
To make sure that you have a 360 head please have a look at the rim of the head.
There you can see the date of manufacturing.
If there stand as an example 12J... on the rim it means the Year 2012 and the month October (J, the 10th in alphabetic order).
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So you're saying it is obvious to see the difference between an old and a new head?
Is there a way to make sure?
Hey Eric, I actually bought a set of G plus recently, from Thomann as well. Yes, it's quite easy to see the difference, the Level 360 heads have a sharper bend at the top of the collar, then it's the steep part, and then there's a slight bend outwards, while the old ones just have the bend at the top, and then straight all the way to the rim. My 8", 10", 14" and 16" are the old design, but the coated snare head and the 12" had the steep collar, no 360 logo though. However, they all fit perfectly, and were very easy to tune up. I don't know if I can distiguish any difference in sound, would be nice to check with two identical drums. One thing I do know, is that they all fit better than all the Remo heads I have... But I do have some abnormaly large-for-their-size Sonors, Evans seems to be my head of choice.

So if Thomann claims they only sell only new heads, that's bullshit. Which is strange, because I've received nothing but perfect service from them.

Well, does your head fit nicely? Is it easy to tune? Does it sound great? I bet it does. Enjoy! :)

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...So if Thomann claims they only sell only new heads, that's bullshit. Which is strange, because I've recieved nothing but perfect service from them.

Well, does your head fit nicely? Is it easy to tune? Does it sound great? I bet it does. Enjoy! :)
Hey, thanks for your reply. I don't know how many heads they have in stock but it must be a huge amount so I don't think they've checked every head when they made that claim.

About thead: actually, it sounds good but I noticed the welt of the rim is not perfect, on side is 1 or 2 mm ( .05" ) higher than the other. In fact, that got me to look if it is a level 360 head or not. I'll check the manufacturing date when I get home.
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I bought a new evans onyx head recently and it had the level 360 thing printed on it but looked similar to an onyx I already had. I ask the GC rep if the collar was really new and he said they had it on some of there heads since 2011 and that they just re-marketed it. I do not have the old to compare it to. I was wondering if anyone knew if they had this collar before on some heads and just did not market it?
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I bought a new evans onyx head recently and it had the level 360 thing printed on it but looked similar to an onyx I already had. I ask the GC rep if the collar was really new and he said they had it on some of there heads since 2011 and that they just re-marketed it. I do not have the old to compare it to. I was wondering if anyone knew if they had this collar before on some heads and just did not market it?
That's a fact. Look at this thread and you see that EvansSpecialist confirmed it: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ighlight=level
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I bought a new evans onyx head recently and it had the level 360 thing printed on it but looked similar to an onyx I already had. I ask the GC rep if the collar was really new and he said they had it on some of there heads since 2011 and that they just re-marketed it. I do not have the old to compare it to. I was wondering if anyone knew if they had this collar before on some heads and just did not market it?
We've been working on what became our Level 360 collar for quite some time. The new collar design as we know it has been in production since September of 2012 on sizes 6-16"
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