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Old 01-12-2013, 08:54 PM
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Before going into the details of the drums and hardware specs (and being a fairly new member to this forum), I feel like a brief introduction and back-story would be beneficial to set the stage for my new kit. For the past twelve years, I have slowly expanded my first drum set, a 5 piece Pearl Export, adding more and more cymbals, and eventually a rack, double pedal and the like. It got to the point where I couldn't really build it up anymore and, combined with the age of the drums and the fact that they were entry-level, it got me considering a new set.

The idea to get a new mid- to upper-level kit had been floating around in my head for awhile but I wasn't really sure what I wanted. With the Kit Constructor program and DW's Kitbuilder, I had thrown together some ideas without really taking it too seriously, viewing them more as "dream sets". Over the last year or two, I began looking at those setups and really putting some thought into what aspects I wanted to keep. After finalizing the specs I wanted, I was able to place my order with a local Tama dealer in early August 2012. About a week remains until the drums should arrive, but in the meantime here are some specs:

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Tama Starclassic Bubinga

Finish:
Silver Snow Racing Stripe w/ black nickel hardware

Sizes:
20"x18" (2) bass drums
8"x7" tom tom
10"x8" tom tom
12"x9" tom tom
14"x11" hanging floor tom
16"x13" hanging floor tom
13"x6" snare drum

Hardware:
Trick Bigfoot pedals
Tama HH805 Hi-hat stand w/ Cobra clutch
Tama HS700WN snare stand
Tama CA30EN and CA45EN cymbal arms
Tama MCA63EN cymbal arm attachments
Pearl DR-501C (2)
Pearl DR-501CE (2)
Pearl RJ-50
Pearl PCX-200 clamps for all toms
Pearl PCX-100 clamps for all cymbal arms
Ahead AA9027 drum rug

**All Pearl DR-501 rack bars have 3" cut from both ends**

I will save cymbal specs until I have everything set up on the rack, so hopefully soon after the drums arrive I will be able to post full specs for the set. In the meantime, you can see a few shots of the hardware.

The first picture shows what my idea was for this setup using DW's Kitbuilder.






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Old 01-12-2013, 09:05 PM
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Welcome to the forum. I can "taste" your excitement :)
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:26 PM
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And today they arrived! When I last talked to the guys at Drums Etc. (my local dealer), they gave me a definite date of 1/18 or 1/21. Got the call today that they had come in, so without any further adieu, PICS! I'll post more when I have them up on the rack but for now I'll leave you with these. Enjoy!







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Old 01-16-2013, 03:46 AM
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beautiful looking shells. i cant wait to see em all set up!
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:50 AM
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beautiful looking shells. i cant wait to see em all set up!
You beat me to the punch! I was just about to post one more shot tonight. At any rate, I got the toms and bass drums tuned. Saving the snare for tomorrow as I've put numerous hours into the kit today and need a break. I did manage to get them arranged on the rack so here ya go.

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Aluminum rack with chrome , white drums with silver sparkle. Beautiful.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:38 AM
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looks even better set up. can't wait to see it all put together with cymbals and the rest.
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Congrats, absolutely gorgeous drums, and it's going to be a lot of fun to play!
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Awesome kit, love the finish
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:52 AM
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I have a Tama Bubinga kit. Amazing stuff. But there is one thing about Tama that they seem to skimp on. And that is the detail of the snare beds. They are virtually non existant. It is very hard to get a tight snare sound on Tama wood snares. For a comparison, a Dunnett snare bed is opposite, deep, and wide in many cases. A deeper snare bed will give you more flexibility with tensioning your snares, and can tighten up a barking snare--which my snare was. You can tighten the snares up without choking the head.

If you are having a problem with your snare sound---I would recommend getting the snare beds cut professionally, or sand them down yourself. This will make the snare way more enjoyable and pleasing to the ear.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:26 PM
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Aluminum rack with chrome , white drums with silver sparkle. Beautiful.
Thanks! I do love how the drums and rack look together. Couldn't be happier!

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looks even better set up. can't wait to see it all put together with cymbals and the rest.
Hopefully in the next day or two everything else will get put up. It was especially rewarding being able to get the drums set up.

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Congrats, absolutely gorgeous drums, and it's going to be a lot of fun to play!
I sold my previous kit about a month and a half ago, playing on just practice pads since, so this is especially true! I had a blast just playing the toms.

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Thank you! I'm very happy with it as well.

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I have a Tama Bubinga kit. Amazing stuff. But there is one thing about Tama that they seem to skimp on. And that is the detail of the snare beds. They are virtually non existant. It is very hard to get a tight snare sound on Tama wood snares. For a comparison, a Dunnett snare bed is opposite, deep, and wide in many cases. A deeper snare bed will give you more flexibility with tensioning your snares, and can tighten up a barking snare--which my snare was. You can tighten the snares up without choking the head.

If you are having a problem with your snare sound---I would recommend getting the snare beds cut professionally, or sand them down yourself. This will make the snare way more enjoyable and pleasing to the ear.
I didn't spend a whole lot of time with it but that is the exact sound I'm after. On my previous snare, a steel Pearl Export, I was able to really crank it and get a nice tight sound. I'm hoping that I can find a suitable sound with a little more experimenting but I'll certainly keep your advice in mind!
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:00 PM
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I'll post my cymbal specs awhile. I've been under the weather the last few days so no telling when I'll have everything on the rack. I'm short about four cymbal arms so not everything will be mounted right away but here's the full list in size order:

Cymbals:

8" Meinl Classics High Bell
8" Meinl Classics Medium Bell
8" Meinl Classics Low Bell
8" Meinl Byzance Traditional Splash
10" Meinl Byzance Dark Splash
10" Sabian Xs20 Splash
13" Zildjian Oriental China
13" Sabian AA Regular Hats
14" Zildjian ZXT Thin Crash
15" Meinl Soundcaster Custom Medium Crash
15" Sabian AAX-Treme China
16" Sabian APX Ozone Crash
17" Meinl Mb10 China
18" Meinl Classics Custom Powerful Crash
20" Zildjian Rock Ride
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Beautiful kit. Now I want to hear you play it.
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I have a Tama Bubinga kit. Amazing stuff. But there is one thing about Tama that they seem to skimp on. And that is the detail of the snare beds. They are virtually non existant. It is very hard to get a tight snare sound on Tama wood snares. For a comparison, a Dunnett snare bed is opposite, deep, and wide in many cases. A deeper snare bed will give you more flexibility with tensioning your snares, and can tighten up a barking snare--which my snare was. You can tighten the snares up without choking the head.
Just messing around with it today, I was able to get it tuned pretty close to what I'm looking for. I tightened the resonant head up pretty tight and backed the lugs on either side of the snare bed back about a quarter turn. I'm experimenting with the batter head, and I'm sure going with an Evans dry head would help with any extra ringing, but it's just about dialed in.
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Very Nice! How do you like that Cobra Clutch? I've been thinking about trying one out.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:51 PM
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Very Nice! How do you like that Cobra Clutch? I've been thinking about trying one out.
I've had it for a few months now and I love it. I have a Pearl drop clutch as well and it's nice to have multiple different sound options. The drop clutch lets the hihat have a loose sound and then I have my Cobra Clutch set up to give a tighter hihat sound, so I can easily go back and forth between those. There have been a few times while playing that I've accidentally bumped it and opened the hats but overall, as often as I use it in my playing, I can't complain.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:18 PM
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Decided to tackle some of the cymbals today although they're a work in progress, still trying to figure out how I want to situate everything. Working with the hardware that I currently have got me this far. At some point down the road I'll get enough to mount the remaining cymbals but for now I'll leave you with these:




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Old 01-17-2013, 03:13 AM
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Beautiful kit. Now I want to hear you play it.
I appreciate the compliment. All I have to record video at this point is a Sony Cybershot which will do these drums no justice haha! I am trying to get something in the works tho.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:40 AM
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I hope you enjoy your kit. I know it is awesome. You got a 13 snare, maybe they mess more with it. I know my snare was too loud until I messed with it.

ENJOY YOUR BUBANGA WANGA!!!!!
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So when do we see the pictures?
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I hope you enjoy your kit. I know it is awesome. You got a 13 snare, maybe they mess more with it. I know my snare was too loud until I messed with it.

ENJOY YOUR BUBANGA WANGA!!!!!
There are some things I'd like to change with it, mainly throwing an Evans Hybrid snare head on it, but it certainly has plenty of volume. I'll agree with you on that!
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So when do we see the pictures?
All the pictures are showing up fine for me right now.
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All the pictures are showing up fine for me right now.
Hmm. I'm not seeing them. Are they linked to facebook or something? That was an issue for me last time. I'll be able to see them when I get home.
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Hmm. I'm not seeing them. Are they linked to facebook or something? That was an issue for me last time. I'll be able to see them when I get home.
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Simply stunning. If cost/noise wasn't a factor this is definitely something I would go for (and yes, get working on that video of you and this kit in action)!
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Ah! Now I see them! Very nice. Congratulations! I love the bubingas having owned a kit a while ago. I'm assuming you're taking all of it for every gig? You must own a nice van ;)
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Ah! Now I see them! Very nice. Congratulations! I love the bubingas having owned a kit a while ago. I'm assuming you're taking all of it for every gig? You must own a nice van ;)
Thank you! I really hope there's some sarcasm in there toward the end haha! When I planned to upgrade to these, I had no intention of doing shows or gigs or anything (hence the size of the kit). But they do sound killer!

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I love your kit man, but you might find it easier to play if you move the entire right side of the kit more towards you, so you won't have to reach so far. Just a suggestion, but it might be more ergonomic if you arrange it something like this:
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I love your kit man, but you might find it easier to play if you move the entire right side of the kit more towards you, so you won't have to reach so far. Just a suggestion, but it might be more ergonomic if you arrange it something like this:
One thing I will say, and I'm not using it to de-validate your statement, but I'm 6' 4" so the reach isn't a concern for me and just playing it the last few days I haven't really minded where it's positioned as far as being able to reach it or roll from the 12 down to the 14. That said, I wouldn't mind at least trying it a) so that it pulls the tom out from under the ride a little and b) to see if it does make any difference in moving around the kit. Either way, point taken and thanks for the tip!

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Do you happen to live in or around Lancaster? I'm just wondering how Drums Etc. prices compare to Dales? I bought mine from Dales almost five years ago.

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Do you happen to live in or around Lancaster? I'm just wondering how Drums Etc. prices compare to Dales? I bought mine from Dales almost five years ago.

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Yeah, I'm in the area. Actually earlier last year, before I contacted Drums Etc., I sent an email to Dale's asking for a ballpark quote. Accounting for the fact that Dale's was only giving me a general idea, they both came out to almost the exact same price. They were nice guys when I went up there and looked at finishes and sizes, but for driving distance Drums Etc. was way more convenient for me.
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Yeah, I'm in the area. Actually earlier last year, before I contacted Drums Etc., I sent an email to Dale's asking for a ballpark quote. Accounting for the fact that Dale's was only giving me a general idea, they both came out to almost the exact same price. They were nice guys when I went up there and looked at finishes and sizes, but for driving distance Drums Etc. was way more convenient for me.
Cool, enjoy them. It's always a surprise to me to find out what color Shawn's hair will be from one month to the other, lol. I get through Lancaster every month or two and stop in.

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I love your kit man, but you might find it easier to play if you move the entire right side of the kit more towards you, so you won't have to reach so far. Just a suggestion, but it might be more ergonomic if you arrange it something like this:
As I was about to reply to your comment, I actually saw your picture and, if I'm seeing it right, I did exactly what you did with the right side of your rack. The pics will probably explain what I did as much as any lengthy response, but I turned the side of my rack around so it curves in instead of out and the end result, to no surprise, was that both toms moved in a few inches. Once again thanks for the idea!



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You must be loving life. And you also go down to your drum room, sit on a chair in front of your kit, and drool. You just stare at the kit for a half an hour, not practice at all, and still feel accomplished. LOL

BTW, do NOT put on double ply heads!!! Clear Ambassadors sound totally amazing-----gotta have the killer tone!!! I just got my first set of coated Ambs to see what it's like. Single ply all the way for the premium sound(double ply heads distort the sound) WOOHOO! Next I will try CS Dots for some retro action. I also want to record my bubinga kit with single heads on the toms and be totally retro.
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BTW, do NOT put on double ply heads!!! Clear Ambassadors sound totally amazing-----gotta have the killer tone!!! I just got my first set of coated Ambs to see what it's like. Single ply all the way for the premium sound(double ply heads distort the sound) WOOHOO! Next I will try CS Dots for some retro action. I also want to record my bubinga kit with single heads on the toms and be totally retro.
I'm glad you mentioned heads. The only thing I had figured out from the start was GMADs for the bass drums and I'm glad I went that direction. Punchy but still has plenty of boom. With the toms especially, to each their own and I will have to try a few combinations to see what works for me (stock heads are Evans G2 Clear batter and G1 Clear reso). Appreciate the advice!

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I haven't had any problems with double ply batter heads ;)
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I found that the Evans stock heads, G2 clear over G1clear are a great combination for my bubinga drums. I actually use 2 ply batter heads on four of my kits, three kits have coated G2s and the bubingas have clear. I've gotten bad Evans G2 heads, both clear and coated directly out of the box, but when they're not dead from the manufacturer, they sound great.

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The stock heads really do let the drums sing. Lots of sustain and with good attack as well (and they also do a nice job of showing off that wood!). The EC2 is the other head I am considering when I change heads in the future. Just an observation from Evans' website, it seems like two-ply is where the attack is at so with that said, I think that's where I am focusing my attention.

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I've always preferred Remo's Emperor sound to the G2s, but that's your decision. The EC2s will really tone down the resonance if you want that kind of sound.
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