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Old 10-07-2009, 12:43 AM
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i love his little fills, he just places them perfectly, especially on the brushes

QUESTION: in miles' biography he says that he would tell drummers he played with to "play that joe jones lick"......what the hell is that lick!???
would it be the one where he just plays the left hand on it's own for a bar or two after playing say, some triplets??
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Old 10-09-2009, 06:38 PM
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Philly Joe is so incredibly tasteful! Transcribing him is a lot of fun.
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:15 PM
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Philly Joe Jones... first heard him on Coltranes 'Blue Train' album. Then fell in love with his playing on ''Round About Midnight'. I have recently purchased the Workin', Steamin', Cookin' and Relaxin' albums.
Anyone who has not checked out Lee Morgan's 'The Cooker' MUST! The version of 'A Night In Tunisia' is my favourite and the whole band really, really cooks! The man! Philly Joe!
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:16 PM
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I cannot stress enough how badly people who have not checked out 'The Cooker' by Lee Morgan must listen to this album!
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:46 AM
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QUESTION: in miles' biography he says that he would tell drummers he played with to "play that joe jones lick"......what the hell is that lick!???
would it be the one where he just plays the left hand on it's own for a bar or two after playing say, some triplets??
You mean the "Philly" lick. I've been wondering about that, too. It's hard to get a specific idea from how Miles Davis talks about it, and he says that Jones made a lot of money playing that lick.

So what is the "Philly" lick?
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:28 AM
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according to that video on drummerworld, philly joe played with monk? did not know that, any albums you guys know of with this monk+philly thing goin on?
Can't remember album names, but apparently it was around 1959. Here a link.
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:42 AM
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You mean the "Philly" lick. I've been wondering about that, too. It's hard to get a specific idea from how Miles Davis talks about it, and he says that Jones made a lot of money playing that lick.

So what is the "Philly" lick?
I think the "Philly" lick is actually an over-the-bar lead in to the next solo in a song. It's the one where he kicks off the new solo in bar one (often after a break in the last two bars of the last solo, serving as a solo lead-in for the next instrumentalist), by playing a hi-hat "splash" on beat one followed by another on beat four which he sustains for a few beats. He used the left hand stick to increase the "splash" effect as well.

The drummers who followed PJJ into Miles Davis's groups didn't copy licks exactly, but used this idea voiced in a variety of ways, as do many contemporary jazz drummers like Brian Blade.

On a totally unrelated note...I found this link showing Philly doing a backwards roll as well as a showy elbow shot to the hi-hat. Pretty cool.
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:50 AM
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The 'Philly Lick' is actually just a cross stick on beat 4 in the second measure of a 2 measure phrase during comping. Listen to how much Cobb used that when he replaced PJJ, he was the first one to get told that, if I recall, coming from Cobb himself.

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Old 07-15-2010, 02:43 PM
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The 'Philly Lick' is actually just a cross stick on beat 4 in the second measure of a 2 measure phrase during comping. Listen to how much Cobb used that when he replaced PJJ, he was the first one to get told that, if I recall, coming from Cobb himself.

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Old 07-17-2010, 04:15 AM
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Another great album where Philly Joe is showing off his brush artistry is Bud Powells 'Time Waits'. Plays brushes on nearly every track.
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