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Old 12-10-2012, 06:35 PM
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Bought or got hold of a snare drum you have long lusted after and then decided you don't really like it?
Even after you have re-headed, re-snare wired and tuned the fruggin thing?
That's about where I am right now with my latest snare drum.
A Jeff Ocheltree "14 x "6.5 limited edition heavy metal carbon steel confection.
I am trying to convince myself I like it but you know....I really don't. sob.
Please tell me I am not the only poor soul who has felt like this.
I am so dismayed.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:16 PM
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Bought or got hold of a snare drum you have long lusted after and then decided you don't really like it?
Even after you have re-headed, re-snare wired and tuned the fruggin thing?
That's about where I am right now with my latest snare drum.
A Jeff Ocheltree "14 x "6.5 limited edition heavy metal carbon steel confection.
I am trying to convince myself I like it but you know....I really don't. sob.
Please tell me I am not the only poor soul who has felt like this.
I am so dismayed.
Paul
....It's happened to me several times............guess my expectations get too high. That is a beautiful looking snare though
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:47 AM
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Part of the reason I refuse to spend more than about $400 on a snare drum!
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:02 AM
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I can say this about my $1,300.00 Canopus Zelkova snare I got in 2007. It became my least favorite snare after a few months. I sold it for half price just this year.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:29 AM
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Not happened to me, & I'm sorry it's happened to you. TBH, from my personal POV, the snare you have, as a drum with wide application appeal, has alarm bells ringing all over, & that's without me ever playing one. When you put low resonance high mass components together, expect your sound to come only from the heads, but with a lot of reflection from the shell. Your picture shows a fairly dampened head too, I suspect you put that on to reduce excessive edge overtones. Die cast hoops only add to the focus & dampening in this scenario. That snare is a crack monster, pure & simple. My guess is that it would work best with a G1 coated batter cranked medium to high, & embrace the highs & overtones. Should be fairly articulate too.

Larry's Zelkova is another example of a snare with a specialist flavour. Hollow log can be the ultimate in shell tone delivery, but it can also be the reverse. This time, it's up to mother nature, as she decides the sonic properties of that shell to some extent.

The plain truth is this, snare drums with a distinct character are great, IMO, much more interesting & individual that the mainstream, but the risk of a player not liking the sound is increased considerably. If you want to be reasonably sure the sound will be right for you, then shooting for the middle ground, the tried & tested, is almost certainly the way to go. It may never light your fires, but it's unlikely to disappoint either.

I know what the standard (most valid btw) advice will be, try before you buy, but sometimes, that's just not practical. Even if you can try the drum, the room has such a big affect on the sound, it may still not be representative, but it's better than not trying, that's for sure. Outside of that, look for manufacturers who have the balls to offer honest audio examples of their drums. Difficult to find, I know, as even those that give the impression of a simple recording, are often not.

Then there's the other side of the coin, the drummer in a candy store affect. We regularly get requests to build drums, especially snare drums, that we know will sound like crap. We spend some time trying to advise such customers, & steer them towards something we know will deliver, but sometimes we have to refuse the build, as the customer is so insistent on his/her specification.

Again, sorry it hasn't worked out for you, but if you want the sound I described, a change of head should mostly get you there.

Good luck :)
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:34 AM
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Never a drum. It did happen to me with one cymbal though. Lesson learned.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:59 PM
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I came across a snare drum on Ebay that i thought would be "THE SNARE" (Starclassic Piano Black Bubinga 13x6). I bought it then i ended re-selling. Since then i've done that a few more times. I guess i got addicted to ebay in the fact you can buy and try the drum out, then have the option of reselling.

Of course i had a Stewart Copeland signature i sold on Ebay too. And i regret that one.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:24 PM
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I've never bought a snare I regret. I've sold a couple, though... (wince)
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:13 PM
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Hi
Thank you for sharing your experiences.
And thank you keepitsimple for your comprehensive reply and suggestion that a change of snare head may help. I had already done that and last night got my wife to evaluate the sound. She loves it! I must confess it is more to my liking and I shall know more when I have gigged it. The rest of the band loved it as well.
I agree it is a crack monster but that has a strange appeal for me as well.
But it is real pretty and of course very very shiny!!!!!-))
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:39 PM
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Cymbalholics advise leaving a cymbal for a few months to adjust.

Ever eaten a food and didn't like it but love it now?
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:38 PM
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Hi
Thank you for sharing your experiences.
And thank you keepitsimple for your comprehensive reply and suggestion that a change of snare head may help. I had already done that and last night got my wife to evaluate the sound. She loves it! I must confess it is more to my liking and I shall know more when I have gigged it. The rest of the band loved it as well.
I agree it is a crack monster but that has a strange appeal for me as well.
But it is real pretty and of course very very shiny!!!!!-))
Paul.
That's great to hear :) What head do you have on it now? I can't make out the model. The reason I can smell a crack monster one trick pony from a mile off, is that I'm a big fan of one trick pony crack monsters :) I hope you learn to love what it can offer rather than concentrating on what it doesn't.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:32 PM
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My guess is that it's a G1. Do I win?
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:15 PM
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An Evans power centre reverse dot. Seems to work well but it may not be the final head.
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