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Old 05-31-2011, 10:18 PM
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Default Best jazz albums(with great jazz drumming)?

so im looking for good jazz(traditional/fusion/bebop/new orleans/experimental) albums to widen my jazz knowledge(i play mostly acid,fusion,nu,swing,bebop) so i'd appreciate reccomendations. embarrased to say so but im not even familiar with the classics.

would be a plus if you recommend albums with great traditional jazz drumming.
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There are a million, but the group listed in John Riley's Art of Bop Drumming is great to start with.

Miles Davis - Milestones
Art Blakey - Moanin'
Art Pepper plus Eleven
Clifford Brown & Max Roach
Thelonious Monk - Monk's Dream
Haynes, Chambers, Newborn - We Three

And a few more:

McCoy Tyner - The Real Mccoy
Miles Davis - Miles Smiles
Chick Corea - Now He Sings, Now He Sobs
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Thelonious Monk - Misterio
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme, Africe/Brass and Olé (among all)

ALL OF THESE feature INCREDIBLE drumming. Philly Joe Jones, Art Blakey, Mel Lewis, Max Roach, Frankie Dunlop, Roy Haynes, Elvin Jones, Tony Williams and Jimmy Cobb are the drummers from these albums. Check out more on album info on wikipedia.
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Preservation Hall Jazz Band is great Traditional jazz. As for fusion look into Return to Forever!
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Dave Brubeck Quartet- Time Out. Joe Morello.
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If you've got time and Netflix, you should check out Ken Burn's Jazz documentary. It will give you a lot of great history of jazz up until about 1970.
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The greatest, IMO:

NEFERTITI by Miles Davis. Tony Williams, the greatest drummer who ever lived, on drums.
Get it. Listen to it. Love it.
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FREE FOR ALL - Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers.

This is one of the best jazz albums ever.. Art Blakey is a beast on it.
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Also Chick Corea's first Return to Forever album with Airto on drums and Dave Brubeck's Take Five Compilation Vol I & II
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thanks so much guys.really helped alot simply by answering.but its so hard to find these albums where i am esp art blakey!!!
just got miles davis's kind of blue and almost got a thelonious monk and dave brubeck album but found a compilation album(late nights and cool jazz) which had alot of songs on it.shall continue my search thanks for the help so far!!
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Anything Dave Brubeck! Great stuff. Go to any used CD/record store and I'm sure they will have some stuff. Otherwise, he's got a lot of CDs on Amazon.
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Great suggestions guys and gals. The jazz wikepedia article is a good historic view of the variance in jazz. So you can explore nuances in jazz.
I really liked the influence Tony Williams had on my own playing.
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Sun Ship - John Coltrane.

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Buddy Rich and Lionel Hampton: http://www.amazon.com/Giant-Steps-Bu.../dp/B00000G2P3

...fun to listen to, great licks, LOTS of trading 4s. One of the best jazz albums EVER (in my opinion).
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going to youtube to listen to all of this,all the drummers are crazy!!! i knew of some before but still it has helped me so much by watching.helped my playing and music knowledge.thanks!!!
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Chick Corea: Akoustic Band - Dave Weckl is incredible on this.
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I don't know about the "Best" but how about....

Maiden Voyage: Herbie Hancock; Tony Williams on Drums

Shelly Mann and His Men Live at the Blackhawk Vol 1 - 4: Shelly Mann on Drums

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i listened to some songs from Mccoy Tyner's Land of Giants with the crazy eric harland on drums.one of the few newer jazz albums i found which are awesome!! you guys should check it out if you havent.they are like one brain man
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Chick Corea: Akoustic Band - Dave Weckl is incredible on this.
I would say get the live album rather than the studio album. There is video from this gig too. Weckl used a Yamaha 8000 set on this gig, which is unusual for him.
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It was one of the most important jazz records I ever heard.
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Question & Answer - Pat Metheny. Roy Haynes modern yet classic. Very influential for me. Plus a million others.
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Shelly Mann and His Men Live at the Blackhawk Vol 1 - 4: Shelly Mann on Drums
Yes! One of the greatest feels ever!

I would like to add Freddie Hubbard's "Get Ready For Freddie" with Elvin Jones on drums.
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Picking up jazz was the greatest drumming decision of my life. Played rock n roll for decades but didn't really become a drummer till I started playing jazz (at least my own opinion of myself). After jazz all genre will become so much easier. Partly because jazz is so impromptu and you really develop an intuition for music. Don't get me wrong I still love rock and I also play in a civic orchestra. But jazz is my true love.
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There are some great dummers mentioned in this thread. I think most of them, with the possible exception of Shelly Manne, are what I will call drummers' drummers. Meaning guys who play with dazzling technique and are (or were) showmen in their own right. There are a lot of drummers who are more ensemble players, meaning they fit well and played in support of the other musicians, but stayed mostly out of the limelight themselves. Actually I think Shelly did this most of his career. Shelly was a great drummer by the way, no question about it. Let me add a few more names of this latter variety:
1. Connie Kay - drummer for MJQ for most of it's existence. Amazingly inventive, swung like mad, total percussionist. MJQ was an extraordinary quartet once Kay replaced Kenny Clarke (another great drummer) because with Kay, they played almost like a soloist so intertwined were they in musical conversation with each other. No jazz ensemble played before more people or for more years. Not even Ellington.
2. John Poole - drummer and business manager for Anita O'Day for decades. Dazzling speed, brush work beyond category. O'Day was a drummer herself and her sense of time was peerless among jazz singers, male and female, up to the present. The interplay between her and Poole is very special. Poole, by the way, was the national champion corps (i.e. rudimental) drummer some time around 1940.
3. Jeff Watts - he is the synthesis, in my opinion, of the many, many great New Orleans drummers going all the way back to the birth of jazz. He never intrudes in ensemble, builds as he goes, and has that whole New Orleans feel doing its magic at all times. All the while he is technically brilliant. Listen to him on several Winton Marsalis recordings.

There are a lot more, I could go on all day.

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It was one of the most important jazz records I ever heard.
"Four" & More blew my mind the first time I heard it. Tony is in great form.
Someday My Prince Will Come by Miles Davis is great.
Giant Steps by Coltrane.
Taylor's Wailers - Arthur Taylor (you want the one from the 60s, with CTA, Batland, etc, not the 90s band)
A strong second to Free For All.
Cookin', Relaxin', Steamin', and Workin' (for separate albums) again by Miles are GREAT.
Jazz in 3/4 Time - Max Roach.
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omgosh soooo many albums i want and need to get now!!! you guys are the best man.btw i love the way roy haynes,eric harland,elvin jones play like crazy now!i knew of them befroe but never got to listen to their playing in songs...so good.always loved jazz from the moment i started drumming but it was always fusion or acid jazz.
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I like Wayne Shorter's "The Soothsayer", featuring a young Tony Williams, and possibly the best ride cymbal sound ever recorded. (IMO, it sounds even better than on the Miles recordings.) And there are several styles and tempos: a classic swinging jazz waltz ("Lost"), slow ballads w/ brushes, plus plenty of straight ahead, too.
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Here's a tip. Get a library card. Many libraries are now a part of a network of libraries and you can probably get access to most of the CD's mentioned here. Give them a listen so you know what you really like before you buy.
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Some great stuff above. Also check out:
Hank Mobley - No Room for Squares - Philly Joe Jones (d)
Mike LeDonee - Waltz for an Urbanite - Kenny Washington (d)
Tommy Flanagan - Sunset and the Mockingbird - Lewis Nash (d)
For monster Canadian drummers, check out:
Barry Elmes Quintet - The Five Minute Warning - Barry Elmes (d)
Jake Langley - Diggin' In - Terry Clarke (d)
Hugh Fraser - Bonehenge! - Dave Robbins (d)
All are available on iTunes. Oh, and I'm going to hear Hugh Fraser's quintet live at Hermann's Jazz Club tonight -- colour me happy!!
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I like Wayne Shorter's "The Soothsayer", featuring a young Tony Williams, and possibly the best ride cymbal sound ever recorded. .
Thumbs up! The ride really sounds outstanding!
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whoa freddia hubbard's ready for freddie is on fire!!!!! thanks so much guys.
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Buddy Rich - Big Swing Face
John Coltrane - Ballads (Elvin Jones)
Lee Morgan - Sidewinder (Billy Higgins)
Max Roach - Drums Unlimited / Percussion Bittersweet
Jean Luc-Ponty - Cosmic Messenger (Casey Scheuerell)
Chick Corea Electric Band - Paint The World (Gary Novak)
Philly Joe Jones - Blues For Dracula
Paul Wertico - The Yin and the Yout
Count Basie - Atomic Basie (Sonny Payne)
Woody Herman - Thundering Herd (1974) (Ron Davis)
George Benson / Joe Farrell - Benson & Farrell (Andy Newmark)

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Hank Mobley: Workout (Philly Joe Jones)
Bill Evans: A Simple Matter of Conviction (Shelly Manne)
John Coltrane & Don Cherry: The Avant Garde (Ed Blackwell)
Dave Brubeck Quartet: Gone With the Wind (Joe Morello)
Sam Rivers: Fuchsia Swing Song (Tony Williams)
Nat Adderley: Live at Memory Lane (Roy McCurdy)
Bill Potts: Jazz Soul of Porgy and Bess (Charli Persip)
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By jazz drumming do you mean swing drumming?
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Workin' With the Miles Davis Quintet (Philly Joe Jones)

Clifford Brown & Max Roach

Both of the above are two of my favorites, but I also have a Blue Note "Best of Sonny Rollins" comp that's great because the various tracks feature Max Roach, Philly Joe Jones, Art Blakey and Elvin Jones on them.
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Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take 5. Joe Morello is the king of good taste and odd time signatures

Snarky Puppy - We Like it Hear. Larnell Lewis is simply a power house on this album with a great modern take on jazz fusion

Buddy Rich - Swingin" New Big Band. Buddy shows how to drive pure energy into a big band properly and not play in the neutered style taught today. The West Side Story is a classic example of this capability.

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue. James Cobb lays down a pocket on all tunes with Paul Chambers and Bill Evans that creates an almost hypnotic effect on the listener.
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Maynard Ferguson's "Chameleon" and Buddy Rich's "The Roar of 74".
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So many great albums exist:

Two that really inspired me when I was 15 and first getting into jazz and drumming are "Study in Brown" (Clifford Brown and Max Roach) and "Somethin' Else" (Cannonball Adderley). These stand the test of time and are quite simply just beautiful pieces of art.
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McCoy Tyner - Supertrios with Tony Williams and Jack DeJohnette.

This turned me onto piano trio jazz.
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Instead of rattling off a laundry list of albums, I'm going to list the first two that came to mind.

Omer Avital: Abutbul Music – this is an Israeli jazz group that I first heard on a Delta flight to Hong Kong last May. It's an absolute gem of an album that I've been listening to almost nonstop since my trip, and all of the musicians (including the drummer, Ofri Nehemya) are outstanding. Highly recommended.

Bonus: After my trip, I discovered this excellent video from the drummer's side project

Chick Corea Quartet: Time Warp (Gary Novak, drums) – this one came to mind primarily because of the song New Life, which features one of the most expressive and powerful drum solos I've ever heard. If nothing else, be sure to at least check out that track.

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