Although I can see the jazz tuning pushed to the extreme as some kind of stereo-typical joke played on jazz musicians
Thanks Bo, but the higher tuning wasn't even close to the tonal or dynamic choke point of these drums. They'll crank up at least an extra half octave, maybe a bit more, & still deliver a full & satisfying tone.
As for concert toms - Grrrrrrr
Bo, did you notice the
18" hats on the second part of the video?
They sound beautiful to me. I'm sure Thinly Veiled Drums would sound great as concerts too, but I haven't tried it ... yet
Thanks Grea. Hopefully, those sounds were familiar to you
Please don't encourage the rodent imitator, he's already bad enough as it is!
I think they sound great. It's not the tuning I would use, necessarily, but as others have pointed out, there's no single right way. Terrific sound.
Thank you Larry. Difficult to encompass everyone's tastes. I'm just happy to get a higher tuning capture out there, because it's not something you see very often.
I would have liked to here the first drummer play the 2nd set verses the groove drummer featured. Just for comparison of the set, shifting styles was fine, but my comparison sort of stopped at that point.
Point taken, & thank you for your kind words. The idea of the second player & tuning was to show the same kit in a typical pop/light rock tuning, hence the change in playing styles. We changed the hoops & moved from G1 coated to G2 clear batters too.
Without the big kit tuned up nice and high with coated heads this video is just a sham. A well played and excellently crafted sham.
Message received - maybe next time
I played the vid on my 700 watt system.
Both kits sounded awesome!
I tune my 65 Slingerland kit with the 18" BD very much like the first kit in your vid.
Great drums, and a great job presenting them.
Thanks Bob
Both captures were the same kit, but with different heads, hoops, & tuning.
The first tuning is what i like to hear in regards to a traditional Jazz sound.
The second tuning, to my ear, would work very well in all scenarios.
That's exactly what I was hoping to demonstrate
Your drums sound fantastic! I can imagine them being used as you have them tuned in different contexts but we all have "the sound" we are after and I would tune them differently, but each of us would.
Thank you
My aim was to show strong flexibility within a single kit. Of course, there's too many combination possibilities to ever cover in a single video. On dryness compared to many recordings, there's no reverb on these recordings (or anything else). Just a touch of reverb would lift things quite a bit, but it's not what we do.
You went with a 20 rather than an 18 bass drum which is a good choice as it will make it an all around kit for various styles.
It seems to me that you would be able to achieve the sound you want anyway with choice of heads & tuning.
Beautiful drums.
Thank you Bruce
Ref: comment above about reverb & how brutally honest this recording is. I personally prefer a 20" bass drum over an 18" in just about any situation. Many 20" drums can't get that higher yet satisfying tone that an 18" can deliver, but done right, they can easily, but so much more too. The player demonstrating the first tuning has one of our 20" x 12" deep bass drums, & that covers a huge range of styles, & each with total credibility too.
