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Old 01-18-2012, 01:42 AM
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Well, I've only got one picture of my kit, that's when I was playing it, the skins are pretty horrible and the cymbal stand closest to the camera is broken.

You should put much more duct tape on these Pinstripes, they must sound waaayyyy too open.... ;-))
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Hey KIS! What do you think of those Maple tom holders. Not bad for a 15 year old. :)
Actually, I've got to say, I'm super impressed by those tom holders. They encompass everything I admire in a person. How come you went downhill so dramatically from 15 onwards ;) ;) ;)
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Actually, I've got to say, I'm super impressed by those tom holders. They encompass everything I admire in a person. How come you went downhill so dramatically from 15 onwards ;) ;) ;)
I started making money. Then I got a wife that made money, and now I am a spoiled, kept man. :(

I even glued very course sand paper in the pivot area to hold its position. :) I still have them, if you want to borrow them.
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If you just bought heads, your kit would probably sound 10 times better. Please don't tape the new ones.
And please Alex, work on those snare and Tom angles.
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Actually, I've got to say, I'm super impressed by those tom holders. They encompass everything I admire in a person. How come you went downhill so dramatically from 15 onwards ;) ;) ;)
I thought you liked the rock riser.... that's pretty recent, isn't it? ;-)
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And please Alex, work on those snare and Tom angles.
Otherwise you are going to make our "Tom Angle" thread, and you don't want that! :0
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And please Alex, work on those snare and Tom angles.
I so wish I could, but the tom holders are useless now so they just move about freely when they're fully tightened, and I have no space for the snare so I have to have it at that angle to fit everything in properly, I should be moving it soon or moving some stuff in that room which is why I want more equipment, mainly a cymbal or two and maybe an extra tom.
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the skins are pretty horrible
New heads and ditching the AVH inspired gaffer tape will do wonders for the sound of your drums. A cheap way to get a good sound that will tide you over until you start working.

That aside, you don't need a million drums to be a good drummer....you just need to learn to play what you've got. This guy plays a matchbox better than most can play a full kit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79e9nTKw08w (from 4:15 onwards).

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Also, I'll let you into a secret, Sticks can't reach half the stuff on his kit. In fact, some of it's so far away, he doesn't even know what it sounds like.
Stick's kit is divided into quadrants.........each with it's own post code!
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I so wish I could, but the tom holders are useless now so they just move about freely when they're fully tightened, and I have no space for the snare so I have to have it at that angle to fit everything in properly, I should be moving it soon or moving some stuff in that room which is why I want more equipment, mainly a cymbal or two and maybe an extra tom.
Work on fixing what you have first, then you can start adding.
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You're going to want to do yourself a favor, take those heads off, take the tape off, wipe them with a wet towel, dry them and tune them up right.
Take a look at these videos, you should be able to get your drums sounding, at the very least, decent.
Snare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxm3QunDjUs
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Bass Drum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8Q12mKYxI

Now, not everyone here, including myself, totally agrees with the bass drum video, but it does show you the proper methods for setting up your drums. Muffling and and specific tension/pitch is up to you.
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[quote=Pocket-full-of-gold;944500]New heads and ditching the AVH inspired gaffer tape will do wonders for the sound of your drums. A cheap way to get a good sound that will tide you over until you start working.

That aside, you don't need a million drums to be a good drummer....you just need to learn to play what you've got. This guy plays a matchbox better than most can play a full kit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79e9nTKw08w (from 4:15 onwards).

Yeah, but I mainly do cover songs for Black Veil Brides, and CC (Drummer) has quite a few cymbals and drums:



I'm only wanting 1 or 2 more cymbals and a tom.
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Stick's kit is divided into quadrants.........each with it's own post code!
That's why he never gets my mail. I sent to to the postal code where the china cymbal is, rather than the postal code the hi-hat stand resides in!
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Yeah, but I mainly do cover songs for Black Veil Brides, and CC (Drummer) has quite a few cymbals and drums:
Do you realise you've responded to every single post with a "yes....but"? Too many excuses for you NOT to do something and not enough concentration on what IS possible or workable for you given your circumstances, I reckon.


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I'm only wanting 1 or 2 more cymbals and a tom.
Can you play what you have already?

I'm not criticising mate. I remember all too well being 15 and wanting a million drums/cymbals. I thought it would make me "better" too. It doesn't. My old man used to go to great lengths to tell me so too. My kit was "crappy" and didn't "sound any good" (so I used to say)....right up until he sat down on it and blew the thing apart. The difference between him and me? He could play and I couldn't......nothing at all to do with the 3 piece kit. A lesson well learned for me.

Concentrate on improving your drumming. That's the best advice I can offer. Forget more drums, forget more cymbals, forget all the other excuses that are keeping you from what's truely important. Do that and the rest will unfold over time.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:01 AM
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I am digging those tom holders Sticks- should have added a few more to each for the future. I bet if you could go back....

The real advice on how to get a bigger kit is to just find an honest job and work for the money. Theres no easy way. Unless you marry a really rich girl who really likes huge drum kits.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:06 AM
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Do you realise you've responded to every single post with a "yes....but"? Too many excuses for you NOT to do something and not enough concentration on what IS possible or workable for you given your circumstances, I reckon.




Can you play what you have already?

I'm not criticising mate. I remember all too well being 15 and wanting a million drums/cymbals. I thought it would make me "better" too. It doesn't. My old man used to go to great lengths to tell me so too. My kit was "crappy" and didn't "sound any good" (so I used to say)....right up until he sat down on it and blew the thing apart. The difference between him and me? He could play and I couldn't......nothing at all to do with the 3 piece kit. A lesson well learned for me.

Concentrate on improving your drumming. That's the best advice I can offer. Forget more drums, forget more cymbals, forget all the other excuses that are keeping you from what's truely important. Do that and the rest will unfold over time.
I've been told I can play drums really well by quite a few people, despite the fact I've only been playing for about half a year. I'm only looking for an upgrade as the songs I try to learn have parts I can't do with my drums, I'm mainly just looking for a China and/or extra ride and 1 tom. Then that would have me sorted for a long while.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:08 AM
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If any of you guys need stuff doing over the internet, I'd be willing, if it's a sensible pay, not that there is much, but if had something I could do then that could help me :)
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Almost all of us go the full circle when it comes to kit size.
Just read the great "Big kits vs Small Kits" thread.
When it comes to acquiring gear, drummers are like junkies getting a fix.
We always find a way to get what we want!
To some its drums and to some its cymbals. To others its both.
I am just as happy playing my 4 piece Safari Jungle kit as I am playing my 6 piece kit.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:10 AM
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Almost all of us go the full circle when it comes to kit size.
Just read the great Big kits vs Small Kits thread.
When it comes to acquiring gear, drummers are like junkies getting a fix.
We always find a way to get what we want!
To some its drums and to some its cymbals. To others its both.
I am just as happy playing my 4 piece Safari Jungle kit as I am playing my 6 piece kit.
Experience leads to wisdom and you find your way when it comes to number of pieces.
Yeah, let's be honest though, 1 cymbal and maybe an extra drum wouldn't be much would it?
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Yeah, let's be honest though, 1 cymbal and maybe an extra drum wouldn't be much would it?
Yes but when you learn how to pull many sounds from that one cymbal and one drum...
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Yes but when you learn how to pull many sounds from that one cymbal and one drum...
I know but with my ride cymbal it's got a broken stand, so it crashes all the time no matter what, I'm trying to replace that with a china and move that in between the floor tom and the 2nd tom so it's just flat and won't crash all the time.
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I've been told I can play drums really well by quite a few people, despite the fact I've only been playing for about half a year. I'm only looking for an upgrade as the songs I try to learn have parts I can't do with my drums, I'm mainly just looking for a China and/or extra ride and 1 tom. Then that would have me sorted for a long while.
Honestly, I dont think you're grasping all of this.

A China or another voice, is the last thing you need. Even if you can't afford heads, which you need mostly, just play! You obviously have access to the internet, use that to your advantage and just learn!

And people telling you that you're good, doesn't mean much, wait for an experienced drummer to compliment you; that'll mean something.
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Honestly, I dont think you're grasping all of this.

A China or another voice, is the last thing you need. Even if you can't afford heads, which you need mostly, just play! You obviously have access to the internet, use that to your advantage and just learn!

And people telling you that you're good, doesn't mean much, wait for an experienced drummer to compliment you; that'll mean something.
I do use the internet to learn, I'm just saying that most of the songs I cover or try to cover will have that extra ride that's flat and gives a quickish hi-hat type sound, I don't know how to explain it.
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When I was 15 I used to cut lawns for drum money while my friends were cutting lawns for dope money!
There is always a way to get gear.
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When I was 15 I used to cut lawns for drum money while my friends were cutting lawns for dope money!
There is always a way to get gear.
Most the people in my family can't get jobs where we live, my sister's only just got a job, my mum is looking for one, one of my brothers has been looking for about a year, it's incredibly difficult to get a job where I live.
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just play!
Hear, hear!!

Best free advice you're ever gonna get young man. Until you can figure out a way to pay for your upgrades, what you have is all you've got and you're better served dropping the excuses, knuckling down and improving your skills. You can't build your kit at present, but you can build your playing foundation that will last you a lifetime.

At 15, you have years to build your monster kit.


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And people telling you that you're good, doesn't mean much, wait for an experienced drummer to compliment you; that'll mean something.
True that. Perspective is everything. My 4 year old tells me I'm the best drummer in the world. However my mother, due to being married to my old man for all these years, only thinks I'm the second best. ;-)
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Here I am playing my first kit and lovin it. (black and white pic)
The other pics are of my Pearl Rhythm Traveler and My Tama Stagestar.
I still play and love these kits.
I take pride in the fact that I can make any drum or cymbal sound good.
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True that. Perspective is everything. My 4 year old tells me I'm the best drummer in the world. However my mother, due to being married to my old man for all these years, only thinks I'm the second best. ;-)
I'll be quite happy to be only the second best drummer in the world, if such a position would actually exist. ;-))
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I think the more appropriate question is: "WHY do people get such big kits?"

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Buddy Rich was once asked why he didn't play larger kits.
His answer was, "I haven't yet learned how to play the one that I have"
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I play a four piece with ride, 1 crash, splash and hihats. I still feel like I don't have enough money to upgrade.
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I really don't know how people can afford all these kits, I haven't upgraded my kit at all since I got it, except from some new pedals I got for my birthday, I just can't afford it, I'm 15 and really want to upgrade my kit with mainly new cymbals, buy they're so expensive. I can't get the money together and I don't know any ways to get cymbals and stands any cheaper, if anyone knows of a way to get cymbals cheaper or something I could do at age 15, excluding a job, I live too far away from anywhere I can go, all the pubs near me only take 16+
Stop whinin' ;)

Really, at your age, be glad with what you have, and learn how to play what you have. That's what I did when I was your age (actually, I was already gigging at your age, but that's another story). You're not going to get gigs to help pay for more gear if you can't play, so face up to it and learn how to play better. Remember Jacob Armen, Tony Royster Jr., and even Buddy rich? They were all child performers and for their age, they could really play. If you can compare to those guys at that age, then you should have nothing to worry about. Until then, get your talent together and play as much as you can. It's not about the gear. It's about what you can do with the gear you have. Alot of my early gigs involved a bass/snare/cymbal and a hi-hat. Consequently, some of Elvis Presley's biggest hits were played on a suitcase or something decidedly non-drums. So try not to be so down about not having stuff. It's about being a musician and making what you have work for you.

In a way, you're probably lucky that your parents aren't just supplying you with what you need. My parents didn't just get me whatever I wanted - I had to work for it in talent or in sacrificing something else before they'd help me get another cymbal or a new snare drum.
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Everyone has to work for the things that they really want. I was much younger than you when I worked at my father's corner grocery store and made whopping $1.00 USD for every three hours I worked. I saved and bought this kit, less these cymbals, when I was 14 years old. First kit I ever owned and I still have it forty five years later. If you're in the right climate belt, there's also shoveling snow, trust me it's good exercise.



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Everyone has to work for the things that they really want. I was much younger than you when I worked at my father's corner grocery store and made whopping $1.00 USD for every three hours I worked. I saved and bought this kit, less these cymbals, when I was 14 years old. First kit I ever owned and I still have it forty five years later. If you're in the right climate belt, there's also shoveling snow, trust me it's good exercise.



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I played the same crappy entry level kit from the time I was 12 to 27, buying only heads, sticks and a crash cymbal here or there only when I broke one and absolutely needed a replacement. And even then I replaced it with the cheap stuff. My hardware was rusted and worn and the drums were beat up from being thrown around for 15 years.

It wasn't until my late twenties when I really decided to manage money well enough to actually save for a new kit, hardware and cymbals.

That said, playing really is the more important thing. And if there is a piece of gear that you just have to have, try mowing lawns. That's what I did until I was old enough to get a part time job. Also, If you manage to get a job while living with your parents, that's all gravy money. You can spend it all on gear if you want.
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Awesome tom arms sticks. Nothing else to contribute other than play what you have until you can get more. Even though you don't need more. Learn to play the songs you like on your kit. Then, when you do eventually get more gear, you will be able to play on any backline kit around. Good luck.
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I really don't know how people can afford all these kits, I haven't upgraded my kit at all since I got it, except from some new pedals I got for my birthday, I just can't afford it, I'm 15 and really want to upgrade my kit with mainly new cymbals, buy they're so expensive. I can't get the money together and I don't know any ways to get cymbals and stands any cheaper, if anyone knows of a way to get cymbals cheaper or something I could do at age 15, excluding a job, I live too far away from anywhere I can go, all the pubs near me only take 16+
finding a job when you're underage can be hard, but start now and keep at it. hell, just start mowing lawns, pulling weeds, trimming hedges and trees, clearing trash/debris/junk from plots of property (when requested-lol), gather aluminum cans and scrap and taking it to the scrapyard, copper scrap pays too. i did a lot of stuff like that from 13-16. i set a goal to get a new snare and some cymbals (start off by assessing how much you need to make for what you want to buy). so i did some odd jobs and worked my ass off. i got close to my objective, then sold off the gear i was going to replace/sell: my paiste 802 hats, crash and ride, some old camber cymbals that were about to be thrown into the garbage by this guy down the street, a music stand, and my old particle board cheapie snare. then used that money to get a used tama 12x3 piccolo snare, a new gretsch full range 14x5 maple snare, a 16'' A custom fast crash, 20'' K ride, a set of hats (K top/A mastersound bottom), and a 10'' A splash. my mom was incredibly overprotective (and wealthy, not boasting, just painting the picture), so i had to SNEAK out to do those jobs, she always said she wanted a boy with work ethic, but she never meant it, at least when it came to doing man's work. she always wanted to buy everything for me, but it was always conditional, buying my love, using money to influence me, to keep me dependent on her so she wouldn't "lose" me. working for my own money was my way of rebelling, and when she told me i was doing the work of "poor white trash and illegal riffraff" i said, "if hard work and honest pay are trashy, then i never want to be sophisticated..." lol. bottom line, if you want it, you'll get it, and it's the most rewarding when you attain it yourself. when snobby rich kids say, "my mom/dad bought me a new *whatever*" you can say, "yeah it must be hard work having everything handed to you" lol

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my first kit was made out of some paint buckets... i used to sit on the patio jamming
i probably sound worse now than i did then
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I really don't know how people can afford all these kits, I haven't upgraded my kit at all since I got it, except from some new pedals I got for my birthday, I just can't afford it, I'm 15 and really want to upgrade my kit with mainly new cymbals, buy they're so expensive. I can't get the money together and I don't know any ways to get cymbals and stands any cheaper, if anyone knows of a way to get cymbals cheaper or something I could do at age 15, excluding a job, I live too far away from anywhere I can go, all the pubs near me only take 16+
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My kit is just 5 piece with 3 cymbals.
Your still ok!! Just don't forget that it's about the sound in the end! When you're listening
to music, I don't you're hearing the size of the kit really, except when the drummer does
a big descending fill on 10 different sounding toms :).
But rather try to learn to get out all you can on your 5 piece now you have the time!!

You know, many guys in their 30s or 40s can afford a big kit, but they don't have much
time to practice!!! So you have something that's much more worth than 10 toms actually!

By the way: I teach and play professionally, and at the moment I only own a snare drum
and an 18" bass drum!! I'm waiting for my new kit to come, but that will "only" be a 5 piece,
too! So you're not alone ;).
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