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Old 11-30-2010, 11:57 PM
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Hey Gavin,

I'm working on a good drum sound but I only have one mic. What do you recommend for a cheap but decent set of drumset mics?
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:05 AM
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Hey Gavin,

I'm working on a good drum sound but I only have one mic. What do you recommend for a cheap but decent set of drumset mics?
I don't think you're in the right section of the forum. Gavin's been working with professional gear for decades, why would he be aware of what's the current best "bang for the buck"? You're much better off at the "Other Gear" section.
In any case, I recently went for a home studio set up, and since it is a first for me, I went for a relatively budget solution.

I got these:

Mics

Interface

10 separate channels on your PC via USB connection for under 300 bucks? I couldn't believe it either.
And the mics are very decent, plus, you get all the stands and cables that seem to hold their own. With those two, you are set to go; the interface even comes with Cubase LE 5. Now, editing is not an easy job, so you might as well want to take a course or something.
But really, having a very nice home studio setup for under 800 bucks is VERY good in my opinion. I'm pleased with the results. I attached a sample of one of my band's songs recorded with this. The bass drum mic works very well for a bass guitar, and the overheads as vocals mics.


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Old 12-01-2010, 03:32 AM
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Cool man. I guess you're right, I don't usually post questions like this here, it was just something that came off the top of my head. But really, thanks for all of the info- will definitely look into it.
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:43 AM
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Hey Gavin, I thought you might want to know that I was browsing Dream Theaters wikipedia page and under the member list was your name, I did my research and found nowhere where this was proven to be true. Have you been considering trying out or have you?

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Old 12-01-2010, 01:13 PM
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? didn't see it!
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:48 PM
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? didn't see it!
I guess I forgot to add that I did edit him out until proven otherwise.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:34 AM
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Of course they are not in..
Dude, check the web before asking here, please...

http://gavharrison.com/rhythmicdesign.php
thnx its usful terry.like ur work.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:47 AM
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Hi again Gavin. Also, how tight do you have your bass pedal and why?

Thanks very much.
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:14 PM
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Hi Rítmico

I was hearing and comparing the drums sound of two of your records:
The audio file PT Live in Atlanta and the dvd Anesthetise.
In Atlanta I felt the sound with more low frequencies, and the bass drum and floor toms with a great "thump".
1) Is this because some difference in record (mics, room, effects...), or because the drums (USA vintage SQ2 kit in Atlanta and SQ2 Euro kit in anesthetise), or both?


No - there's more of the room sound on the "Atlanta" mix and therefore a bit of the PA sound in there too. It was a much more 'boomy' room than the venue that we recorded the Anesthetize DVD in.

2) I want order a SQ2 drumset but is difficult choose the right shell configuration.
What is your prefered setup, if you have a preffered, the vintage or the hybrid kit, and why?


for my last kit I chose maple - 'thin' shells for the toms - 'medium shells' for the floor toms - and 'heavy' shell for the bass drum. It sounds good to me.

Hi elyardm

i cant tune my toms (10 12 14 16) without buzzing snare.
i want to not buzz snare when playing toms and bassdrum.please contact me if u know that.


there's a lot of reasons why that's happening. The tuning of the toms and the snare is quite crucial. You need to make sure that when you hit the snare drum (with the snares off) it's not a similar pitch to any of the toms. Also you need to check how well your snare wires are installed - how loose you have them - and how many snare wires you use.

Hi scottishhaggis

1. Can you please tell me what sticks are you playing with when you're recording or just not playing live.


I use either the Vic Firth "Rock" model or "5AX"

3. Have you ever tried to put the batter head on the bottom side of tom and the resonant head on the top?

No

4. I have a terrible problem with my toms... What methods do you prefer? Do you show any of this in your latest DVD?

I do discuss this on my DVD Rhythmic Designs. The coated Emperors and Evans rings that you are using might be a bit dead - unless you're trying to get a '70's dead funk sound?

5. What have you heard of Lithuania? What do you think of this country?

I've never been - but I'd love to see it.

Hi tobiashula

when PT records tracks, do you mix one song and copy the settings of it to get the same sound on every song? Or do you mix every song afresh?


When I record the drums I load up the same settings for every song via Logic. The settings remain right through the mixing stage.

Hi scottishhaggis

Hi again Gavin. Also, how tight do you have your bass pedal and why?

I think I have them somewhere between 'medium' and 'loose'. That's where it feels the best to me.

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Old 12-03-2010, 08:14 AM
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thnx its usful terry.like ur work.
Hi elyardm,

Thanks for the compliment. I hope you get the opportunity to check out Rhythmic Designs. I think you'll have some fun with it. Those GH/05Ric tunes are something else!!

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Old 12-04-2010, 11:02 AM
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Hi Gavin,

I just saw that you are going to be in Hartenstein near Chemnitz (Germany) for Drum-Workshop on Monday next week (Dec 6th 2010). It´s a pity that this is just too far away for me (no chance to take a day off) but I am sure the local drum addicts will have a great time with you.

Maybe next time you are going to be a little bit closer.
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:37 PM
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hi gavin , i want to know how u learn drum technique and how can i learn recording tips ?
do u have any books or dvds that u teach everything about recording and ur home studio ?

i really like ur sounds of drum and i know u since 6years ago,begor u get award of md2008.

i think u r the best drummer at this time because many reason as u know ;)
check out http://askgavinharrison.com before asking!!!!


Gavin told in many Interviews he stopped practicing only hand-technique. More he started to train his brain..
Check out google for Books about Recording and Home Studios. And also check this thread.. There are many people who asked this questions before you!!
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:47 PM
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Hi Gavin,

Thanks for this great workshop in Hartenstein yesterday ;-)

One Question about your drop clutch:
I realized that there is no sound when you fix it after playing double bassdrum. Du you damp it in a certain way? Because I think that people allways hear when I fix my drop clutch because there is a kind of "click"-sound.

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Old 12-07-2010, 03:56 PM
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Hey Mr. Harrison,
First off thank you for making the page, It's really a cool thing that you've done this.

Being a reader of the forum I've seen that you have read the book Effortless Mastery. I have also read that book and It sparked a question.

Did you find out a way to drop the drumstick 'effortlessly'?

Thank you very much,
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:50 AM
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hi guys, I just give you the link of the the first album recently launched, of my band.
It's called Standing Free, we are from Chile, and if you want, just download from here:

http://www.4shared.com/file/Ckto2rcx...o_de__MP3.html

It's on mp3 format so it's very light, and very fast downloading.

Any comment just feel freedom to say it, or if you want, e-mail me to tcroxattov@gmail.com.

thank you very much.

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Old 12-08-2010, 04:12 PM
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Any comment just feel freedom to say it, or if you want, e-mail me to tcroxattov@gmail.com.
i'm pretty shure he won't comment :)
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Old 12-08-2010, 06:03 PM
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i'm pretty shure he won't comment :)
hahaha, I think that's true, but I put this comment too all of the members here.
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:07 PM
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hahaha, I think that's true, but I put this comment too all of the members here.
And why in the Gavin Harrison thread then? There are other legitimate places to do it in this forum. I think it'd be for the best if you remove the comment. Nobody really cares about a spammer's band, you know?


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Old 12-10-2010, 03:26 PM
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Hey Gavin,

Will you be doing anymore clinics or shows in Germany this summer? I'll be there July and August for some study abroad and would love a chance to see you. I'll be spending my time in Bavaria.

Edit: I'll also be in Germany spring of 2012 for 3 months, if you have anything you know of going on then as well.

Thanks.
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:00 AM
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Hi Guys. There was some discussion on this thread quite a while ago -- maybe years rather than months -- about the internal timing of each strike or beat. In other words, are the left and right hand evenly spaced when playing 16th notes on the snare drum? I am trying to research and perhaps purchase the tool that was used. It was not a simple metronome.

Gavin had tried one and posted his results. Ring a bell?

To state the obvious, I would search it myself but I can't remember what it is called. Does anyone remember the name of this diagnostic devise? Thanks in advance for your consideration.
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:42 AM
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Hi Guys. There was some discussion on this thread quite a while ago -- maybe years rather than months -- about the internal timing of each strike or beat. In other words, are the left and right hand evenly spaced when playing 16th notes on the snare drum? I am trying to research and perhaps purchase the tool that was used. It was not a simple metronome.

Gavin had tried one and posted his results. Ring a bell?

To state the obvious, I would search it myself but I can't remember what it is called. Does anyone remember the name of this diagnostic devise? Thanks in advance for your consideration.
One of THESE.


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Old 12-13-2010, 06:35 AM
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:53 AM
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Hi tobiashula

One Question about your drop clutch:
I realized that there is no sound when you fix it after playing double bassdrum. Du you damp it in a certain way? Because I think that people allways hear when I fix my drop clutch because there is a kind of "click"-sound.


I guess I must press the pedal down at the same time as I hit a snare drum. Some drop clutches (like the DW one) have a tiny felt pad so it doesn't click too much.

Hi yothatswack

Being a reader of the forum I've seen that you have read the book Effortless Mastery. I have also read that book and It sparked a question.
Did you find out a way to drop the drumstick 'effortlessly'?


yes - just let go.

Hi Zildjoe

hi guys, I just give you the link of the the first album recently launched, of my band.
It's called Standing Free, we are from Chile, and if you want, just download from here:


thanks for the offer but I really can't start commenting on drummer's audio or video performances.

Hi DrumHilikus

Will you be doing anymore clinics or shows in Germany this summer? I'll be there July and August for some study abroad and would love a chance to see you. I'll be spending my time in Bavaria. I'll also be in Germany spring of 2012 for 3 months, if you have anything you know of going on then as well.

I don't have any more German drum clinics planned at the moment. Keep a check on my FaceBook site http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gavin-...on/96557593864 I will always announce them there.

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Old 12-14-2010, 03:13 AM
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You should check out the Coady Clutch to eliminate the "click". Its magnetic instead of spring loaded. There's a click that happens upon engagement but its way less than the click of engaging the spring loaded clutch.
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:47 AM
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Gavin,
Howdy from Austin, TX., the live music capital of the world.

First, I would like to compliment you on your beyond-awesome drumming. I've never played on a drum kit, but I have over 50 years of "air-drumming" experience! You have inspired me to (finally) take my first lessons. Also, when Mitch Mitchell, drummer for the Jimi Hendrix Experience, passed away several years ago, someone wrote that Mitch was the "Jimi Hendrix of Drums". I believe that torch has been passed to you.

Second (and I did a quick search for this topic but didn't see it anywhere), I have seen on Anesthetize and a couple of your drum clinic videos that you will occasionally switch from the left hand to the right to play the high hat. Is that due to the structure of the song? Or perhaps to give your left arm a much-needed break?

Thanks, and hope to see you with PT here in Austin some day.
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:40 AM
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Second (and I did a quick search for this topic but didn't see it anywhere), I have seen on Anesthetize and a couple of your drum clinic videos that you will occasionally switch from the left hand to the right to play the high hat. Is that due to the structure of the song? Or perhaps to give your left arm a much-needed break?
Hey mate! This technique is called "open-handed" and I believe to remember gavin said it would open new perspectives to play!
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Old 12-16-2010, 06:04 PM
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Hi, Gavin!
It's very cool that you have found so much time answering all these questions.

Question:
You've stated you play bass drum heels up. It also seems that you always let the beater bounce off of the head and you never rest your foot on the pedal, meaning the heel really is always up.
Doesn't this produce major tense on your upper thigh?
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:27 PM
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Hi Gavin Harrison
My name is Dogan. I'm from Turkey Istanbul. I'm 15 years old. Iwant to play drum just like you.
But i want to ask a question about your biography. You were born in '63 but you graduated from berklee in '78; so did you graduate when you were 15 years old? Or is there something wrong about this info?
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:26 PM
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Hi Gavin Harrison
My name is Dogan. I'm from Turkey Istanbul. I'm 15 years old. Iwant to play drum just like you.
But i want to ask a question about your biography. You were born in '63 but you graduated from berklee in '78; so did you graduate when you were 15 years old? Or is there something wrong about this info?
His wiki page says the following: "Kit Studies with Joe Hodson, Paul Brodie and Dave Cutler (Berklee '78 graduate - teacher relating to the evolving Gary Chaffee school of rhythmic concepts)." I believe it's Dave Cutler who is the Berklee Graduate. I don't think Gavin had any academic, formal training in music; nor does he have a degree in it that I'm aware of.


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Old 12-17-2010, 10:47 PM
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Hi Gavin,

I was just wondering what tips you might have for someone developing their sound, I do love your sounds, but general tips for finding what each individual likes in a sound and how to pull it is what i'm after.
Thanks if you can help at all.
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Old 12-22-2010, 11:59 PM
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Hey Gavin,

I'm currently in the process of writing music. The main thing that I try to focus on is thinking about how I'm going to play with the rest of a band. I don't want to hog up the entire song with stupid drum fills or anything flashy. However, I think it's necessary to have points in where drums are the main focus or at least part of the main idea (kind of like Porcupine Tree). What is a good way to find balance between being a conservative drummer but at the same time be a drummer that has taste? Hope this makes sense.

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Old 12-23-2010, 12:47 PM
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Hi jmenchefski

You should check out the Coady Clutch to eliminate the "click". Its magnetic instead of spring loaded.


very interesting - thanks.

Hi jrcortez

I have seen on Anesthetize and a couple of your drum clinic videos that you will occasionally switch from the left hand to the right to play the high hat. Is that due to the structure of the song? Or perhaps to give your left arm a much-needed break?

I have in the past switched to left hand lead because my right hand was hurting - but usually I'm looking for a different vibe. For instance in the song "Sleep Together" - once we started to play it live I suddenly had the idea that I'd like 16th note ghost notes on the snare drum running through the whole verse pattern. A little bit like the vibe of "Rock & Roll" by Led Zeppelin where the extra snare drum notes drive the rhythm (although John played them with his left hand). Plus I occasionally throw in some triplet 16ths which I couldn't have comfortably played with my left hand.
Playing open handed does make you think differently and you can come up with some new ideas that way.

Hi Jaska

You've stated you play bass drum heels up. It also seems that you always let the beater bounce off of the head and you never rest your foot on the pedal, meaning the heel really is always up. Doesn't this produce major tense on your upper thigh?


No it doesn't but it probably did when I first started playing like that many years ago. I do rest the leg from time to time.

Hi king_chicken

I was just wondering what tips you might have for someone developing their sound, I do love your sounds, but general tips for finding what each individual likes in a sound and how to pull it is what i'm after.

Remember that a very large part of the sound is in your hands. The way that you strike the drum has a lot to do with it. I could tell you to use the same drums as mine and put on the same heads - but it won't sound like me unless I'm playing it. Over the years your sound evolves as you try different gear and your playing develops - and then your overall sound changes too - and you develop preferences along the way. I set the drums, pedals and tuning up in a way that I like to play. It might not suit another drummer.

Hi pixelbreaker

I'm currently in the process of writing music. The main thing that I try to focus on is thinking about how I'm going to play with the rest of a band. I don't want to hog up the entire song with stupid drum fills or anything flashy. However, I think it's necessary to have points in where drums are the main focus or at least part of the main idea (kind of like Porcupine Tree). What is a good way to find balance between being a conservative drummer but at the same time be a drummer that has taste? Hope this makes sense.

Your personality will dictate how much 'taste' you put in there. Taste is a very subjective thing and as individual as you are. Obviously you'll have to decide what the right balance is - there are no formulas or rules.

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Old 12-23-2010, 06:13 PM
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Happy Holidays, Gavin!

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Old 12-23-2010, 11:23 PM
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Hello Gavin. Let me first begin by stating how much of an inspiration you are for drummers. I first heard of you while I was reading Modern Drummer a while back and I checked PT out. Wow. Simply could not get enough of your playing. At any rate, my question: I am trying to transcribe "The Sound of Muzak" and to say that I am having a little trouble with it would be a massive understatement. I know the song is in 7/4 or 7/8 depending how you look at it. Now, if I am correct (which I doubt I am), what I am hearing is that the hi hat is played all through in eighths with accents on the 1 2 3 4 etc correct? The bass and snare is where it starts to get tricky. I think I am hearing something sixteenth note on the bass (like the 1 and the "a" of one) but am not quite sure. Then the snare gets me further. Could you clear this up for me? Thanks

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Old 12-24-2010, 12:31 AM
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Hello Gavin. Let me first begin by stating how much of an inspiration you are for drummers. I first heard of you while I was reading Modern Drummer a while back and I checked PT out. Wow. Simply could not get enough of your playing. At any rate, my question: I am trying to transcribe "The Sound of Muzak" and to say that I am having a little trouble with it would be a massive understatement. I know the song is in 7/4 or 7/8 depending how you look at it. Now, if I am correct (which I doubt I am), what I am hearing is that the hi hat is played all through in eighths with accents on the 1 2 3 4 etc correct? The bass and snare is where it starts to get tricky. I think I am hearing something sixteenth note on the bass (like the 1 and the "a" of one) but am not quite sure. Then the snare gets me further. Could you clear this up for me? Thanks

Goodman
There was an interview where Gavin played the main groove and you could hear most of the ghosting. It was something like this. I think there might be a couple more ghost notes, but this will probably let Gavin tell you what's missing and illustrate the groove better.


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Merry Christmas Gavin, I wish you all the best in your personal and professional life!

And just because I'm such a "nice guy", Merry Christmas to all of my fellow Gavin-fans, and also all the other drummers out there! :)

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Merry Christmas and a happy new year for you and your family, Gavin.



Thanks for the fantastic work. Keep on going.
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Gavin,
Can I just say how much I and i'm sure everyone else who reads this discussion, truly appreciates that you can find the time to give us advice like this.
You are a great contribution to the drumming community.

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Hi Gavin,

just a small question:
Which head do you use on your 12" Snaredrum on the Records of 19 Days and So what..?
It looks like an Ambassador or so?
Is it just a 1 ply Ambassador Tomhead?



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Hi Gavin!!!

I bought a Beyerdynamic DT 150, like yours. Do you use some headphone amplifier?

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