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Old 10-31-2010, 07:01 PM
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hello there guys!
i just wanted to share this with you, i know some (or perhaps all) of you know this, its just to get out of the way
you need these two major materials:
1. toiletry paper
2. tape (any tape will work)
then, you just paste some paper on the top edges of the head (if you want to decrease more overtones, youll need to make the paper bigger)
hopefully it will help you if you forgot it and dont know what to do...
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:07 PM
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Not to be rude, but I just tune my drums to get rid of the pitch shifting. By keeping both heads in tune with themselves and approximately the same pitch between the batter and resonant heads, you shouldn't have ugly over tones.

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I'm with Dennis, Proper tuning eliminates this problem.
The tension relationship between the heads is key.

Every drum has a range that the heads can differ in tension before overtones become an issue.

Also, hitting a drum off center can cause a bad sound.
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:38 PM
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What's wrong with ugly overtones? I call that an added feature! ;)
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:47 PM
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Google the Drum Tuning Bible and learn to tune. I can't imagine anything better looking than toilet paper taped to the drum heads.
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There are also many heads that have systems built into them that reduce "Ring"
That is another route to follow.
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hello there guys!
i just wanted to share this with you, i know some (or perhaps all) of you know this, its just to get out of the way
you need these two major materials:
1. toiletry paper
2. tape (any tape will work)
then, you just paste some paper on the top edges of the head (if you want to decrease more overtones, youll need to make the paper bigger)
hopefully it will help you if you forgot it and dont know what to do...
I would only do this if I were trying to sell my kit on Craigslist and I wanted to impress potential buyers. I think duct-taping a tampons to the batter heads would be great too.

Seriously, I would never put tape or personal hygiene products on my drums. There are other ways to do this - like thicker heads - that won't (literally) trash your set.
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:13 PM
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I was at a gig once and I happened to look at the other drummers kit
I noticed that he had 1 inch square pieces of folded TP that were wrapped with tape.
The TP/tape squares were tethered with a short piece of string that was taped to the batter heads of his toms.
When he hit the toms the squares would bounce on the heads and dampen them.

It was the craziest thing that I have ever seen.
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:02 PM
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Wow. I sense a little elitism here. I don't muffle my drums at all anymore, but back in the day I did just this, albeit with a paper towel. I don't see how this is really any different than moongel, except that it's cheaper and stays put.
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:11 PM
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I didn't see anyone practicing elitism.
I saw people giving good advice while having just a pinch of fun.

Yes, Almost all of us have taped crap paper to our drums at least once in our lives.
I am guilty as charged! I admit it.
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at least it's not used toilet paper...
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:17 PM
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I actually taped my pitifully thin wallet to my snare for one of my recordings and it did sound good to the recorder. I always wondered how that would sound, and now I know ;)
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See, The truth always comes out!
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:26 PM
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May I suggest the Aquarian Studio-X coated heads or the Remo PS 3's.
These are my favs for ring control when I want that sound for recording or other reasons.
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All "funning" and toilet paper aside ...

I once owned a snare with a nasty ring to it that was about impossible to tune out, I mentioned this to a very seasoned drummer friend of mine and he showed me a cheap and dirty fix (from the pre moongel days) he used when having to play a provided backline where changing heads and proper tuning just were not possible. In his gig bag he kept a bag of felt furniture pads of different sizes, the kind with adhesive backing. He would just stick them as needed to the edge until he had killed off enough bad overtones, quick and easy to remove when he left too. Old school ... but it worked.

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does anyone kno where i can get some info on a sonor signature kit in bubinga? are they expensive and are they easy to get hold of ? any ideas
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Old 10-31-2010, 11:30 PM
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Until I got a pack of moongels, I'd use TP, Kleenex or paper towels and tape while recording or sometimes live. Although I love open sounds, sometimes (imo), it's a little too much in a close mic'd environment.

But yeah, try to tune to reach desired sound before resorting to tape.
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i just wanted to be kind an friendly
and those things ive mentioned were easy to find in someones house
just to let you know, i tune with the tama tension watch
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:45 AM
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Good drums always sound good even if they aren't tuned evenly... Even if the heads are worn out, a well made drum will still sound good.

This is why you should practice tuning on any drums you have, cheap or pro. Keen tuning skills will go a long way in your drum career.
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:50 AM
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i agree with you mate!
i just use the tension watch to be precise
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dude please tell me that is your dog, he looks wonderful.
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dude please tell me that is your dog, he looks wonderful.
hahahahahahahhahahahaha! he is man!
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that's so cool. do you know what breed he is?
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yes! of course i know
he is a cocker spaniel!
he is the greatest dog ever, i can send you more pictures if you wish
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I was at a gig once and I happened to look at the other drummers kit
I noticed that he had 1 inch square pieces of folded TP that were wrapped with tape.
The TP/tape squares were tethered with a short piece of string that was taped to the batter heads of his toms.
When he hit the toms the squares would bounce on the heads and dampen them.

It was the craziest thing that I have ever seen.
Ahem, those were tampons! Because of the string.
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Ahem, those were tampons! Because of the string.
I know what they were, I was making a joke!
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dude please tell me that is your dog, he looks wonderful.
Yeah, put me in the dog crazy camp too. I love 'em to bits! Not so good for reducing unwanted overtones though, but superb for reducing unwanted tension!
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Not so good for reducing unwanted overtones though,
Plenty good enough, old mate.

Clip the dog, bundle the hair, add some gaffer......Bob's your uncle, Fanny's your aunt......instant doggie dampener. :-)
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Old 11-01-2010, 03:23 PM
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I've posted this before. Put a business card at the 7 or 8 oclock postion and it will sit right there and work wonders.
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