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Old 12-29-2008, 03:13 PM
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I have $130 right now and my b-day is coming up in a few weeks and I'm stuck between four choices on what to buy:
- My friend's Meinl Classics China cymbal for $40 and I have to buy a cymbal stand
- A Ludwig Acrolite snare on ebay and I might have to buy new heads
- A single or double bass pedal on ebay. I'm stuck between an Eliminator, Flying Dragon, Iron Cobra, DW 5000, or DW 9000
- A tom mount so I can attach my rack tom to my cymbal stand
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I'm not sure exactly where to post this so I put it in here.
I have $130 right now and my b-day is coming up in a few weeks and I'm stuck between four choices on what to buy:
- My friend's Meinl Classics China cymbal for $40 and I have to buy a cymbal stand
- A Ludwig Acrolite snare on ebay and I might have to buy new heads
- A single or double bass pedal on ebay. I'm stuck between an Eliminator, Flying Dragon, Iron Cobra, DW 5000, or DW 9000
- A tom mount so I can attach my rack tom to my cymbal stand
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A lot of this depends on what you already have, and what style you play. Do you have a decent array of cymbals already? If not, do you play a style where they china will be used a lot, or would it just be something pretty to have? How does your snare sound? Are you happy with it? Do you like it, but want a different sounding one as well? If you love your snare, the Acrolite seems like a dumb purchase...but if you hate your snare, it's way better than a china. How's your pedal now? Does it work well? Are you comfortable with it? If it's a single, do you really need a double? Do you play music that requires it? Are you at a point with your single pedal technique where it's a good idea to add a double pedal?

Finaly, do you have your rack tom mounted at all now (like, on your bass drum)? If you do, I would say the tom mount would be the worst idea right now, since it won't really add much to what you can do. With that said, if you can't play the tom at all right now, it would probably be your best purchase, because then you'd be able to play that tom.
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:32 PM
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Mrchatter pretty much nailed it. What is the most needed item at the moment? You could always buy a cheap snare stand and mount your tom on that......... then would that free you up to purchase a second item?
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:37 PM
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A lot of this depends on what you already have, and what style you play. Do you have a decent array of cymbals already? If not, do you play a style where they china will be used a lot, or would it just be something pretty to have? How does your snare sound? Are you happy with it? Do you like it, but want a different sounding one as well? If you love your snare, the Acrolite seems like a dumb purchase...but if you hate your snare, it's way better than a china. How's your pedal now? Does it work well? Are you comfortable with it? If it's a single, do you really need a double? Do you play music that requires it? Are you at a point with your single pedal technique where it's a good idea to add a double pedal?

Finaly, do you have your rack tom mounted at all now (like, on your bass drum)? If you do, I would say the tom mount would be the worst idea right now, since it won't really add much to what you can do. With that said, if you can't play the tom at all right now, it would probably be your best purchase, because then you'd be able to play that tom.

1) The cymbals I have now are Meinl MCSs and a Paiste PST5 crash. The china would be more of something to just have.
2) My snare now sounds great but I've always wanted another snare drum.
3) My current pedal is ok. It's just too heavy and clunky and it's just a single. The technique I'm using now is heel-up so I'm guessing it would be good to upgrade to double.
4) My rack tom is mounted on the bass drum but it's a terrible mount and I can't move it to many places. Also, I would like to get rid of the mount so I can have more room to move the cymbals around.
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:40 PM
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Mrchatter pretty much nailed it. What is the most needed item at the moment? You could always buy a cheap snare stand and mount your tom on that......... then would that free you up to purchase a second item?
If the snare stand would be really cheap, then I could definitely buy a second item. It could most likely be any of them.
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1) The cymbals I have now are Meinl MCSs and a Paiste PST5 crash. The china would be more of something to just have.
2) My snare now sounds great but I've always wanted another snare drum.
3) My current pedal is ok. It's just too heavy and clunky and it's just a single. The technique I'm using now is heel-up so I'm guessing it would be good to upgrade to double.
4) My rack tom is mounted on the bass drum but it's a terrible mount and I can't move it to many places. Also, I would like to get rid of the mount so I can have more room to move the cymbals around.
Sounds like you should get the tom mount, because a comfortable set up is more important that having an extra anything. If you have extra money (if you do what Drumsword suggested), I would probably go with the pedal...it sounds like your pedal is the only part of your setup that you are unhappy with (other than the tom mount), and fixing problems is more important than just adding on another piece.
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I vote for the tom mount. You may also look for a tom mount that will hold a cymbal allowing you to move one cymbal to make room for your china.
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In light of the new information i'd have to agree with the tom mount.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:43 PM
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Thanks guys for your help! So it's the tom mount and pedal. Would the mount still make the tom attached to the bass drum or would it be an arm that attaches to a stand? Does anyone know how much they are?
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Thanks guys for your help! So it's the tom mount and pedal. Would the mount still make the tom attached to the bass drum or would it be an arm that attaches to a stand? Does anyone know how much they are?
You can go in either direction, but generally you want to get an arm that attaches to a stand. As with most things in drumming, there are a ton of different options, but you can find them for decent prices (or go with a snare stand, as was mentioned). Depending on what type of kit you have, and what kind of mount you have, will depend on what you need. For instance, with a Pearl, you only need to get one of the little clamps that will clamp onto the tom arm and the cymbal stand, because you can use the tom holder from the kit. The way Tama is set up, you actually need to get the right kind of holder, because you can't use the tom arm from the kit itself.
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Yes, The pearl style holders are easiest, about $25 for an adapter to mount on your stand. IF, you have a single 12", 13" tom etc. Then grab a used snare stand off ebay and mount it directly over your snare, again anywhere from $25 to $50 used.

Tom mounts for the other style kits can range anywhere from $50 - $100. Hope this helps.
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Old 12-29-2008, 05:52 PM
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I don't really want another stand since I'm low on room in my garage so I'll buy the adapter to make sure the tom is attached to the stand.
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I'm having trouble looking for what I need. Could someone post a link to what Drumsword was referring to?
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I'm having trouble looking for what I need. Could someone post a link to what Drumsword was referring to?
What kind of kit do you play?
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Something like this would be perfect for a "Pearl Style" Tom mount, attach one end to your cymbal stand, and mount the tom on the other end.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SONOR-200-SERIE-...3286.m20.l1116

Or This for other styles\

http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-DW-Dru...3A1%7C294%3A50
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What kind of kit do you play?

I have an Enforcer kit. Anyone who has owned this kit knows what I mean when I say terrible mounting system.
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I have an Enforcer kit. Anyone who has owned this kit knows what I mean when I say terrible mounting system.
Good news, it's the same type of mounting system as Pearl. You can use what Drumsword posted, or something similar.
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Good news, it's the same type of mounting system as Pearl. You can use what Drumsword posted, or something similar.
Yeah that is definitely news I want to hear. Which link would that be?
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Yeah that is definitely news I want to hear. Which link would that be?
The top one, the "Pearl Style" one as he called it.
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And if you're upgrading your pedal too, I picked up a DW7000 for $149, so That may be something to look into.
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And if you're upgrading your pedal too, I picked up a DW7000 for $149, so That may be something to look into.
I tried pedals at Guitar Center and none of the DWs really "wowed" me. The ones that I liked a lot were the Pearl Eliminator and Yamaha Flying Dragon so I'm gonna get which ever one is cheaper and available.
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I would go for a double pedal, it will help you expand your technique, while the other options are just sounds.
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Depends on what you play if you play more heavier stuff go for a iron cobra double bass but if you want to add more sounds to yourr kit go for the snare, it all depends on what you want and what you have !!

(personaly i would go for the double bass)
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