rendezvous_drummer
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those pants leave nothin to the imagination.....very very gross but other than that, cool video. Nicely done.adorno said:Awesome Bernhard. Though Robert Plant's jeans in the Ocean clip are obscene!
those pants leave nothin to the imagination.....very very gross but other than that, cool video. Nicely done.adorno said:Awesome Bernhard. Though Robert Plant's jeans in the Ocean clip are obscene!
NUTHA JASON said:. take your argument too far and coffee, headache tablets and even sugar become part of the mix. don't slice the cake too finely or you just get crumbs.
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tambian89 said:I have been practicing my Bonham Triplets lately. Although I don't need to tell you this, I can do a triplet with one foot, but not at the rapid fire speed Bonzo did it. When you look back, it's amazing to realize that this is where the seeds of Rock and Metal drumming were "Plant"- ed (oooh! bad pun by me!). I think The Beatles created the starting point for Rock, but I really believe Led Zeppelin is the greatest rock band to ever have existed; They were able to innovate and make the sound The Beatles created into something with more dimension. Each member was great as his own instrument, and when they met together, it basically became like a superpower in music. Anyone else feel this way, or are you going to shoot down my proposal as quickly as usual and insult my already bad pun? Haha....
- Marc
Haha.....I'm not a huge Beatles fan either, and I think Zeppelin were the OG's when it comes to rock. Revolver is one of my favorite albums, but I thought that if I didn't post that little bit about the Beatles, everyone would jump all over me and be like "I hate you....you're so stupid and dumb.............eh!"dothecrunge said:I agree with everything you said except the Beatles part. The Beatles didn't start anything.
dothecrunge said:I agree with everything you said except the Beatles part. The Beatles didn't start anything.
I think you should probably back up your statements. Led Zeppelin probably owes more to Cream than it does the Beatles. Where is the definite blues influence in the Beatles music? Aside from the fact they were influenced by Chuck Berry (not really blues) it isn't really there.Dannar said:You do realize that we wouldn't even know the name Led Zeppelin if it wasn't for The Beatles. We wouldn't know the name John Bonham if it wasn't for Ringo. To say The Beatles didn't start anything is probably one of the most absurd statements ever made in the history of man kind.
well we already had this discusion on how much effect the beatles had on music, and Dothecrunge never backed up any of hs comments with good facts or opinions.I think you should probably back up your statements.
wontgetfooledagain said:I think you should probably back up your statements. Led Zeppelin probably owes more to Cream than it does the Beatles. Where is the definite blues influence in the Beatles music? Aside from the fact they were influenced by Chuck Berry (not really blues) it isn't really there.
bonham990 said:Bonham hands down is my favourite drummer i love his power behind the drum set. His ledgendary triplets and who can forget about his right foot! my god he is better and maybe faster then most people that have a double pedal
helldrummer said:whatever.. that is bullcrap... i've heard john bonham's triplets and they are great but no.. just.... NO. you can't say he is "better or maybe faster" than most double pedal users...... i am so frickin' sick of all you boring little single pedal players who are like "aw well i can make my single pedal sound like a double by mixing it up with the floor tom" etc. or "i use heel-toe technique" or whatever (try using heel-toe on two pedals).. ..just admit it: for heavy music you can't beat the sound that a good double pedal or double bass drum player can punch out.
listen to virgil donati, danny carey or raymond herrera.. or tim alexander from primus
finnhiggins said:Tim Alexander probably isn't that great an example. Much of his stuff is achievable without a double pedal, I don't doubt that somebody like Zach Hill of Hella could play most of that fairly accurately without resorting to two feet. Tim does a lot of triplet phrases between the hands and feet with each foot only playing a single stroke on each bass drum pedal, that kind of stuff is easily replicated with a single pedal. Not that he isn't an awesome drummer, of course. I bought a double pedal because of him, and then gave up because I realised that all the stuff that was awesome about him didn't really need one.
This deserves to be on another thread, and indeed there is a thread for it, but here's the deal: If you play music that needs a double pedal then you need one. But the reality is that for most music you quite simply can get the same end result by mixing it up with the toms and heel-toe techniques. It's only really when you get into the land of constant double kick or rudimental work with the feet that you start needing the other foot to come into play.
I do agree that Bonham's foot would probably not be considered particularly fast by modern standards though. He had great power and control over both his dynamics and his beat placement with his right foot, but I don't think that he's a great candidate to stand up to the likes of Zach Hill or Jo Jo Mayer on the single foot speed front.
NUTHA JASON said:things were started BEFORE the beatles. but let's be honest, the beatles spread the word very well. beatle mania quickly transmogrified into rockmania which then attached itself to anything worthy. so sooner or later it was zepmania. many aspiring musicians aspired to be ringo or john etc... and then discovered they could be even better although never quite as popular in a sense. but zep broke most of the beatles records in their 11 years. zep were the forst band in history to have every album they made featured in the top 200 albums.
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ohn's speed was impressive for his day
dothecrunge said:The Beatles were great, blah blah blah. The fact remains, the Beatles did not influence Led Zeppelin musically. Thier first two albums should prove that. Blues, anyone? I'd list thier infuences, but it would take a while, and it doesn't include John, Paul, George, or Ringo.
But then everyone's gonna say, but without Ringo!......................but nothing, Bonzo was not influenced by Ringo. And the same goes for every member of Led Zeppelin.