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Old 03-07-2011, 12:53 AM
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Default How do you count 7/4?

So, how do you personally count when playing 7/4? Do you split it into subdivisions, 3-4, 4-3, 2-2-3? Is there a way it is 'supposed' to be counted? I find, unless there are specific accents, I like to count 1&2&3&4&5&6&7, using the sevens two syllables as the 7 and the and, se-ven.

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Old 03-07-2011, 01:02 AM
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I learned from an old Rod Morgenstein video to be careful, because the world "seven" is two syllables, and it's easy to accidentally to say "sev-en" as two counts.

He suggested you only say "sev" when counting in seven.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, sev

Sometimes I do that.
Sometimes I just count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7.

It depends on the tempo, and as you noted, if there is a specific accent pattern, it's easier to follow that.
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Old 03-07-2011, 01:07 AM
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Some times 1,2 3, 1,2 3,4 but since it's short, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7
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Old 03-07-2011, 01:22 AM
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Never had a problem just counting as 'Seven'. I only sub-divide if there are phrasing issues - listen to 'Golden Brown' by The Stranglers for a great example of interesting 7/4 phrasing!
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Old 03-07-2011, 01:51 AM
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I play a couple of pieces in seven at the moment, one is 4 + 3 and the other is at faster tempo I find it easier to count 1&2&3&4 (no "&" after the 4)
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1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, sev
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Old 03-07-2011, 02:18 AM
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I learned from an old Rod Morgenstein video to be careful, because the world "seven" is two syllables, and it's easy to accidentally to say "sev-en" as two counts.

He suggested you only say "sev" when counting in seven.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, sev
Carmine Appice recommended that too in Realistic Rock.

It's the easiest way to count it.
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Somebody else said it, but it's the same except seven is "sev".
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:21 AM
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money by pink floyd is in 7.
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:52 AM
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7/4, 1 & 2 & 3 & 4, 1 & 2 & 3 & 4, 1...
7/8, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 (seven pronounced sev to keep to one syllable)
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Just 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,

Add ands if you're playing eighth notes, e, and, a for sixteenths.
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Just 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,

If your doing sixteenths then just add ands.
And a couple of "e's" and "a's" for good measure. :-)
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And a couple of "e's" and "a's" for good measure. :-)
Haha my bad I was thinking 7/8... Not used to playing much 7/4, I've mainly seen 7/8.
I'll edit though lol.
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1 2 3 1 2 3 4 is easiest for me.
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Default Re: How do you count 7/4?

I always count it as 1, 2, 3, 1- 1, 2, 3, 1 - 1, where the 1 just after the 3 is implied as half a note.

Here's how it'd line up with the full 7 counts

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
1....2...3....1-1....2....3....1-

Hopefully that makes sense. If not on a roland drum module set the time sig to 7/4 and the rate to quarter notes.

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Edit, for the rare occasion where I actually go up to 7, I just say it in french (sept)
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1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 <rpt>
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