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Old 01-05-2011, 11:30 PM
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Default Low Serial # Vintage DW Kit - Pic's Inside Drum Workshop (FOR SALE!!!!)

Here is some photo's of my Drum Workshop lacquer Kit..

Now For Sale on Ebay -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260721077435

I am wondering if anyone that is a DW expert could help me with any info about how old this kit is and what it might be worth in today's market; as I am considering putting it up for sale.



Thank so much for all of the info you can share with me..

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Old 01-06-2011, 01:47 AM
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While I'm no expert I have followed DW since the early 90s. Your kit should have a date stamped in small print on the interior of the shells. By the looks of the kit and it's hardware/features you have an early 90s DW made with Keller drum shells. The use of those style TB-12 brackets and the 4lug 8" tom tell me that it could be approx 1992-93. Another tip would be to count the number of plies in the shell. Before going to the 5+3 shells DW was using a 6+3 shell for it's toms up to 16" and 8+3 for 18" and larger.
Long story short, it's a lacquer kit in great shape for it's age. I would say you might fetch $2k-2500 for everything pictured. All what the market will bear. Selling points would be the finish condition and color, plus the number of sizes should offer different set-ups for different tastes. Nice kit!
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:56 AM
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thanks for the great info!!

here is a shoot of the inside.. maybe this will help in estimating the date of them

A guy I know told me he thought they were made in 1989, but I do not know how to verify that

Serial # = 2154




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Old 01-06-2011, 04:02 AM
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I believe if you email DW with the serial number they can tell you when it was made. I have not done so but I know others who have. It's worth a shot. And yes, very nice kit. You just can't go wrong with black IMHO.
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Old 01-06-2011, 04:13 AM
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Yeah. If all that's in there is the serial# then your kit pre-dates the "timber-matching" process (or at least the note stamping). I would say your kit was made no earlier than 1990 as I believe DW used T-rods on their kicks prior to that and also used some generic tom brackets, etc.. I would def give the factory a call with your serial#s although, the factory has moved like 3 times since your kit was made, and no offense to DW, but I don't know if their serial numbers really mean anything. Good luck!
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:22 PM
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Yeah. If all that's in there is the serial# then your kit pre-dates the "timber-matching" process (or at least the note stamping). I would say your kit was made no earlier than 1990 as I believe DW used T-rods on their kicks prior to that and also used some generic tom brackets, etc.. I would def give the factory a call with your serial#s although, the factory has moved like 3 times since your kit was made, and no offense to DW, but I don't know if their serial numbers really mean anything. Good luck!
Thanks for the info. I called DW this morning and they said that they started useing
a computer to file information in 2002. This kit pre-dates 02' for sure..... I don't think anyone will be able to definatively tell me for sure, but if any one can, I think it will be
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:38 PM
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I figured they wouldn't have that info on file. You have a couple great things going for you. The number of drums offers a bargain and bunch of configurations to suit peoples needs and because you're in TX, the chrome and even the lug screws look MINT! Gotta love the southern no-rust phenomenon! Again, I hope it finds a good home. My Keller shelled DW from 1994 has already aged/mellowed so nice that I'm sure these sound great!
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:25 PM
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my DW date stamp....

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Old 01-06-2011, 08:29 PM
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Nice kit.
89 is around where I would put it, and if that's what the first owner said, I believe it.
It looks like what was presented in that first catalog.

They did use T-rods, but were one of the first to use key rods on the bass drum.

That's definitely early DW hardware and the Collarlock/DW style mounts. The stands look to be in great shape for their age.

Original memory locks, & the RIMS are original style too.

Are these the Keller 6ply with 6 ply rings? Those were my favorite shells DW has offered (other than the Lake Superior shells haha!). That was the first offering, then DW started to change the ply configs every 6 months it seemed.

I'd count the plies on each shell so you can be sure what to tell people when you go to sell. Might get you more money from someone who is looking for early DW's.

Cool kit, good luck!!
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Old 01-07-2011, 02:16 AM
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Nice kit.
89 is around where I would put it, and if that's what the first owner said, I believe it.
It looks like what was presented in that first catalog.

They did use T-rods, but were one of the first to use key rods on the bass drum.

That's definitely early DW hardware and the Collarlock/DW style mounts. The stands look to be in great shape for their age.

Original memory locks, & the RIMS are original style too.

Are these the Keller 6ply with 6 ply rings? Those were my favorite shells DW has offered (other than the Lake Superior shells haha!). That was the first offering, then DW started to change the ply configs every 6 months it seemed.

I'd count the plies on each shell so you can be sure what to tell people when you go to sell. Might get you more money from someone who is looking for early DW's.

Cool kit, good luck!!
Thanks for the replay, and the knowlage! I'm pretty positive they are 6ply w/ 6ply rings. Definently 6ply rings and Birch! This kit is in great shape, not perfect, but sweet! Any thoughts on the value? BTW (Lake Superiors are my dream!) Jeremy

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Old 01-07-2011, 03:16 AM
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I figured they wouldn't have that info on file. You have a couple great things going for you. The number of drums offers a bargain and bunch of configurations to suit peoples needs and because you're in TX, the chrome and even the lug screws look MINT! Gotta love the southern no-rust phenomenon! Again, I hope it finds a good home. My Keller shelled DW from 1994 has already aged/mellowed so nice that I'm sure these sound great!
They definently have a great sound! Thanks, and no rust on any of the drums, or hardware, MINT on that! The toms are in almost new condition, I would rate them as a 9.2 or so, exspecially for the age.... I'm going to list them soon, with all the pics. I hope thy find a great home.
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Old 01-07-2011, 03:21 AM
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my DW date stamp....

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Old 01-07-2011, 04:06 AM
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my DW date stamp....

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That's not JUST a date stamp. Thank you for sharing that.
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:31 AM
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Cool beans on the 6+6 shells. FWIW your kit is DEF maple. DW's first foray into birch were the never released "mini-lug" kits that were available in red, blue, and green laquer. They had straight shells that were rumored to be made in the Yamaha factory. I saw these kits at a store I taught at years ago around 1998ish. They were pretty cool but never made it all the way to retail.
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Old 01-07-2011, 07:41 AM
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Certainly looks like an early/mid 90's DW to me.

Worth roughly $1700-$2500 depending on local market conditions, and how badly the buyer wants that particular finish, and how quickly you want to sell them.
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Old 01-08-2011, 04:46 PM
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Cool beans on the 6+6 shells. FWIW your kit is DEF maple. DW's first foray into birch were the never released "mini-lug" kits that were available in red, blue, and green laquer. They had straight shells that were rumored to be made in the Yamaha factory. I saw these kits at a store I taught at years ago around 1998ish. They were pretty cool but never made it all the way to retail.
Well? Here's a pic of one of the badges, the shell had a little dust on them, please excuse. The B 4517 acording to DW stands for Birch. So I don't know what to think? Wish they would have keeped better records from the start! If have some more insight on this please let me know!
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:54 PM
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Wow Bernhard, for real? That alone has to make it somewhat collectable, and the fact that it's YOUR kit....Even more collectable.
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Old 01-08-2011, 06:29 PM
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Hmmmmmmm. That's interesting Jeremy. Again, no offense to the guys at DW (met them, they're great guys) I find that peculiar as their track record with record keeping as a company has been interesting. I would defer to their expertise but having worked at a VERY high volume dealer during the 90's I'm still skeptical. Best way to be sure would be to look at a piece of maple next to a piece of birch (whether those be drums or just some scrap lumber) and compare to the interior grain of your shells as the grains are def different. Who knows? Maybe you got a hold of a "unicorn". Keep us posted
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Old 01-08-2011, 07:04 PM
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Three things- one, thanks again.. Two, any one you can send my way with info. please do.... Three, If the badges are all labeled B for birch I would think that they are indeed birch? Don't know, but IF we can find out that would be sweet! I will try to check out some birch next to some maple.... we'll see. I'll keep ya posted.

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Old 01-13-2011, 02:44 AM
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Well It's Time to buy....... Listed on E-bay. I hope that they go to a good home!!


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My first set of DW's were 1989's and the badge was silver and black. My second (and current set) was made in 1994 and have the gold and black badges like yours. I haven't seen this mentioned, but I don't know when they went from the silver and black to the gold and black badges. That is a gorgeous kit and whoever ends up with it will really enjoy it. I love my "94's.

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Cool beans on the 6+6 shells. FWIW your kit is DEF maple. DW's first foray into birch were the never released "mini-lug" kits that were available in red, blue, and green laquer. They had straight shells that were rumored to be made in the Yamaha factory. I saw these kits at a store I taught at years ago around 1998ish. They were pretty cool but never made it all the way to retail.

Sorry for bumping this older thread, but.

Is this the red mini lugged Birch, which was supposedly made by Yamaha?



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Wow Bernhard, for real? That alone has to make it somewhat collectable, and the fact that it's YOUR kit....Even more collectable.
Really makes you reflect on what the craftsmen who built those drums were thinking as they made them, considering the magnitude of what had transpired that day. When I learned of the events in real time, my work was done for the day. Clearly that wasn't the case for DW employees, unless they used that date stamp for a period of time as a sort of tribute, or act of defiance against the Islamist extremists.
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