Welcome!Phil is one of the few drummers from the UK Prog scene that possessed a soulful quality of to his drumming.
I respect your opinion....but your wrong! ;0)Phil Collins is not Great and sometimes opinions need to have some knowledge and experience to bare them out. Theirs
Sorry Doc, that's just your opinion and you are entitled to it, but in the Progressive Rock world, Phil Collins is a GREAT drummer made even more outstanding that he played in one of the most influential Progressive Rock bands of that era.Yes Phils drumming on the 4 Tops tunes is memorable for sure. I liked his drumming on Finger Tips Part 1, you could tell its Phil right away, being a lefty and all.
Honestly has the meaning for the word "Great" changed over the years? Phil Collins is a better drummer than most musicians would give him credit to be. He has strength and drive and is a strong pocket player too. A drummer who can sing and accompany other vocals is a rare musician however GREAT I'm sorry that word has been watered down to the point of no return. Buddy Rich, Chick Webb, Elvin Jones are a few others that are/were Great! Phil Collins is not Great and sometimes opinions need to have some knowledge and experience to bare them out. Theirs actually people who think Sting is a Great bassists but they also have never heard of Ray Brown or Stanley Clarke so go figure that. Can't he be "really good" "a perfect fit for genesis" "extremely tastey" most of his unque style is that hes a lefty so strokes do have a sound and feel different for right handed players. I like Phils style and his approach to drumming I also like his use of cymbals but the word Great means exceptional and inventive and eminent. Sorry to rant on this but it gets ridiculous to keep hearing how every popular pop drummer are Great. Try hes my favorite or I really like his approach to the drums but Great is a word for exceptional and in pop music theres really very few musicians who are Great. Popular Yes!!! Charlie & Ringo & Keith & whoever are Unique to their audiances and those fellows fit their bands very well but Great? Com on, Really. Doc
I respect your opinion....but your wrong! ;0)
Have you heard his work on albums such as Selling England, The Lamb and countless 1970's sessions?
A totally different drummer to the '1980's Phill Collins style.
Did you know Buddy Rich had asked Phil to work with him just prior to his death? Does that not tell you something about the respect he had / has?
John Bonham before he died, mentioned to a young Jason Bonham that he wanted to him to drum like Phil Collins. He loved Phil and Genesis so much that he gave his son two albums; Second's Out and Duke.
I read that Jason met up with Phil years later to tell him that story.
Josef Zawinul wanted Phil to play in his solo Syndicate group but Phil declined because he could not read music.
Drummers indebted to Phil Collins as a drummer: Neil Peart, Mike Portnoy, Nick D'Virgillio, Brann Dailor.
How come the Devo guy isn't Great oh thats right not enough Sales?? . Doc
I didn't get into Phil Collins until I heard about how much my favorite drummer Brann Dailor likes him. After listening to The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway I think Phil Collins is fantastic! The sound that he records his toms with that gated reverb sound I think is a very distinct, when he used to play live before his injury I loved his concert toms because they sound so different from the normal tom sound of deep low tuned toms. I hope he can play drums again one day so I could see a Lamb lineup of Genesis tour!