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Old 12-08-2017, 01:14 PM
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I was surprised too. $200,000 is a lot of money, and insurance is supposed to cover the market value of the house, so... did he not have music equipment insurance to cover his studio gear? Insurance should cover expenses for hotel, clothes, food, etc.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...ter-29640.html

https://www.allstate.com/tools-and-r...-coverage.aspx
$200,000 is a huge amount. I don't see their next door neighbours running a $200,000 Gofundme campaign though?. As said above that is what Insurance is for.

Tama drums, Zildjian cymbals and maybe other stuff provided free by sponsoring companies, obviously studio stuff should be itemised and covered on business insurance, if Simon had business insurance? I have no idea.

Obviously friends in the music business and locally will help with new gear but the whole GoFundMe process for people in million dollar homes doesn't sit well with me. Lots more needy people on the breadline that could do with financial help first.

Took 4 months to get my house repaired and liveable again after the last house flood, Home Insurance covered the work and redecoration. Some personal stuff lost covered by Insurance, some not as they weren't itemised at the time.

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Old 12-08-2017, 03:35 PM
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I am beside myself seeing he has a GoFundMe Page.......specifically for himself.....

Maybe I am expecting too much from humanity, but, I'm guessing he may have been among some of the more well known or "connected" folks in that neighborhood (granted it is LA so who knows) but perhaps using his connections and name recognition to raise money for all victims might not be as douchey Heck I would imagine he is a few phone calls away from setting up a benefit concert......

But what do I know...... just glad we're talking property and "stuff" more than lives.

Saw a bunch of horses lost their lives, that sucks as I am married to an equestrian and we have one of those money pits on hooves......
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200K for 'life rebuilding'? Nope, I don't get this, for him or any other of the more advantaged and insured folks out there.
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I misread his post on Facebook and thought it was for the local folks. I'm not sure what I think about this now. Maybe a free concert in the LA area to raise money for all involved, you know a benefit.
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Hey, I need to rebuild my life too.
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I'm in Simi Valley, so I keep reading about a threat, but nothing solid has come in the way of a warning, beyond one article saying to "sleep with one eye open."

I have my music gear here, and I've not been successful in finding insurance coverage for it. That's a long story that I don't want to get into, but even Clarion did not want to touch it. I think the guitar collection appeared to be excessive or unreasonable. Too late now.

IF my apartment gets destroyed by fire, I might get something for some of my household items. I seriously doubt that my gear will be covered. The replacement value of the gear I have in my apartment is around $60k. The renter's insurance will cover the TV and other household items, so there would be something, but it appears to be primarily for coverage it if a friend comes over and trips on my carpet.

So if I lose everything, then I've lost everything. I have no social pull, don't even use social networking sites, and could never start a GoFundMe page for it. I'd just be SOL and would have to start over from scratch, and nobody would even give me a second look. That's just how it goes, and I have come to terms with my position in life. I accept it.

I wouldn't even pop on here to ask. I couldn't do it. And really, nobody owes me anything beyond basic human courtesy, which I do my best to earn.

One could probably guess how I feel about someone who is wealthy and insured asking people for donations. It's always horrible when someone loses their home and what they've built up over the years. The difference is that he'll re-build with help from insurance and fans/supporters, and I've got my trusty bootstraps.

But maybe the fires will be contained and all will be well. And then I'll choke to death on a chicken wing. As Roseanne Roseannadanna used to say, "It's always somethin'."
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I'll say it. People should be donating directly to organizations that administrate help to all the people affected and homeless because of this disaster. Giving more than multiple years' salary for most people directly to famous musicians in LA is one of those things that would get you sent to hell if such a thing actually existed.
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:26 PM
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I'm in Simi Valley, so I keep reading about a threat, but nothing solid has come in the way of a warning, beyond one article saying to "sleep with one eye open."

I have my music gear here, and I've not been successful in finding insurance coverage for it. That's a long story that I don't want to get into, but even Clarion did not want to touch it. I think the guitar collection appeared to be excessive or unreasonable. Too late now.

IF my apartment gets destroyed by fire, I might get something for some of my household items. I seriously doubt that my gear will be covered. The replacement value of the gear I have in my apartment is around $60k. The renter's insurance will cover the TV and other household items, so there would be something, but it appears to be primarily for coverage it if a friend comes over and trips on my carpet.

So if I lose everything, then I've lost everything. I have no social pull, don't even use social networking sites, and could never start a GoFundMe page for it. I'd just be SOL and would have to start over from scratch, and nobody would even give me a second look. That's just how it goes, and I have come to terms with my position in life. I accept it.

I wouldn't even pop on here to ask. I couldn't do it. And really, nobody owes me anything beyond basic human courtesy, which I do my best to earn.

One could probably guess how I feel about someone who is wealthy and insured asking people for donations. It's always horrible when someone loses their home and what they've built up over the years. The difference is that he'll re-build with help from insurance and fans/supporters, and I've got my trusty bootstraps.

But maybe the fires will be contained and all will be well. And then I'll choke to death on a chicken wing. As Roseanne Roseannadanna used to say, "It's always somethin'."
Dude, well said and I wish you the best of luck and hope the winds blow a different direction from you.

The more I think about this Simon Phillips personal GFM page, the more it really really really irritates the shit out of me on the human level. There are parents with young children who have to navigate the holiday season now
after losing everything and yet SP already has $32K donated to "rebuild his life"? Seriously? There needs to be a karma offset somewhere along the line here...... Now if we find out he didn't set up the donation page or ask for it, then I will retract my statements but if he is truly asking for $200K.......man I just have to shake my head.
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:42 PM
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Dude, well said and I wish you the best of luck and hope the winds blow a different direction from you.

The more I think about this Simon Phillips personal GFM page, the more it really really really irritates the shit out of me on the human level. There are parents with young children who have to navigate the holiday season now
after losing everything and yet SP already has $32K donated to "rebuild his life"? Seriously? There needs to be a karma offset somewhere along the line here...... Now if we find out he didn't set up the donation page or ask for it, then I will retract my statements but if he is truly asking for $200K.......man I just have to shake my head.
I’m beginning to feel the same way. The way the GFM page reads sounds like he wrote it. I would think if someone did it for him, that would be notated.
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Dude, well said and I wish you the best of luck and hope the winds blow a different direction from you.
Thanks. I have moved some gear to storage a few miles away, as a backup. Got ONE guitar in a case, ready to go. Got the cat bags ready to go, as well as our own bug-out bags. Hard drives, important papers, etc., and am making use of cloud storage.

So long as lives aren't lost, I'm okay. I've become a professional when it comes to losing everything. It's happened more than a few times.

Fires, earthquakes, and other natural disasters are things I've gotten through before. Losing it all and re-building is one thing. But I survived a divorce, which was by far bigger than losing everything. These disasters can't even begin to touch that, even if I did lose everything.
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Only one path of redemption on this Mr. Phillips....

"Please help ALL the victims of these tragic fires by donating to my go fund me page. I will then forward ALL proceeds to __________________ (insert nationally recognized and legitimate relief agency HERE)".

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Every year, we budget for charity to bump us into a lower tax bracket. Sometimes the budget is $1000. Sometimes it's $10000. In rare cases, donating $3000 saves me ~$5000 in taxes and I end up ahead.

My wife and I have a list of charities that we don't mind donating to. We try to keep the list short (5 or 6 with at least two locals) to keep the paperwork easy. Donations go out before the tax deadline.

Whenever anyone else asks for money, we simply tell them we donate annually and ask them for a card/slip. Sometimes they end up making the list. Sometimes they don't. Everyone else is relegated to the bottomless pit of despair that humanity inflicts upon itself.

Simon is a great drummer, but so is my friend Jeff... And he's broke.
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John's "Go Fund Yourself" statement certainly comes top of mind...
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I've had some wine, or a lot, and am in the mood for a good old lynch mob hanging! Let's get Simon!

But seriously, if SP has posted a gofundme page, has anyone verified this beyond a doubt?

Of course I join those who think there may be more needy causes for our charity. And, like GD asks, is this just a request for a simple handout or is SP offering some kind of reciprocal gesture?

I, for one, will be offering my humblest donations to those who I have the most affinity with. You'd be forgiven to think that a musician of the calibre of SP might one of those people, but no. It's in fact members of this forum who I feel most affinity with. Any help I can offer would be modest in the extreme and by the time it reaches the recepient, via Paypal or whatever, it will probably be worth even less. However, I make a sincere point of at least offering my support to at least one fellow DW member and as as such I nominate Drumwild (I think that's the name?) in the case of a catastrophe. I can't afford to fund the replacement of a vintage Gibson or Ludwig, but at least let me buy you a meal if ever you hit rock bottom.

This is not wine talk. I'm not worried about anyone coming forward and claiming money. I'm more worried that people who are truly in need don't make themselevs known.

So, my nomination stands. Drumwild, I know you're in CA. If your stuff is burnt to ashes, I can't do much. But I will send you 80 EURO via the best possible channel so that at least you don't have to worry about a week's groceries (that's what I spend on 10 days food shopping).
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But seriously, if SP has posted a gofundme page, has anyone verified this beyond a doubt?
It's on his official Facebook.
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One line in the GoFundMe:

"At this juncture, I do not know what insurance will cover and I fear getting our lives back together will take much more than we can imagine."

I have no pitchforks or torches, and try to give the benefit of the doubt. He could have started the fundraiser out of sheer panic. It can be disorienting when these things happen, and can result in decisions being made that are not necessarily the best.

From my perspective, he's a rich dude who's probably insured and doesn't need any of it. But I'm open to being wrong about that.
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Hey, I need to rebuild my life too.
You wanna go in on a go fund me? We could see if our "pro friends" could kick in. I'm pretty popular.
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You wanna go in on a go fund me? We could see if our "pro friends" could kick in. I'm pretty popular.
Hey man, you know what they say... It doesn't hurt to ask. Unfortunately, I'm not so popular. I'll donate my proceeds to Salvation Army. My life is beyond repair (divorced).
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I have my music gear here, and I've not been successful in finding insurance coverage for it.
Have you tried Music Pro?
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https://www.musicproinsurance.com/
I had not previous, but just did. Created an account.

They provide an Excel spreadsheet for itemizing everything, including serial numbers, description, price/value, and a few other things. Since I keep everything in an MS Access spreadsheet, that was really easy to get done.

Waiting to hear back from them. Will let you know.
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Waiting to hear back from them. Will let you know.
I've used them for many years. I've never filed a claim, but they seem pretty solid and all their policies are clearly laid out. Deductible is $100.

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Do not buy what you cannot afford.

Do not pay someone else for risking what you can afford.

Insurance companies offer you protection for rainy days when the skies are clear, and take away the umbrella when it rains.

Plus they hire idiots to the claims depts, and a lawyer to go through them will cost you more than the annual coverage fees of a single year. Ans I win them all, it a question of extreme persistence.

Self insure, be a happy camper.
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Hey man, you know what they say... It doesn't hurt to ask. Unfortunately, I'm not so popular. I'll donate my proceeds to Salvation Army. My life is beyond repair (divorced).
I went through a divorce as well. If I can break on through to the other side...you can as well. One day at a time man.
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:19 PM
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My first real post back, & clearly I'm pushing against the tide here, but that's understandable.

Without dissecting & addressing the points raised, I can fully appreciate how the optics are contextually poor on the surface, but I'd be inclined to see how things work out rather than rushing to judgement.

Disclosure: I have donated to Simon's fund. I won't give my personal reasons for doing so, other than to say I did so on the basis of trust. Anyone who's spent time with, or worked with Simon, will know he is a modest & generous gentleman of the highest order. He's also a very private man, so his fund description is most likely not revealing full detail of the challenge he faces. I am fully confident he will do the right thing by his family, by others, & by the people who've supported him.

I'm someone who supports all manner of causes on a regular basis. Of course, I can't support / fix everything, & most of my support is random paying forward close to home, but I have donated to other causes associated with these terrible fires too.

This is in no way an encouragement for anyone to donate, nor am I trying to change anyone's take on it. Just pointing out that everything is not always as it first appears.
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My first real post back, & clearly I'm pushing against the tide here, but that's understandable.

Without dissecting & addressing the points raised, I can fully appreciate how the optics are contextually poor on the surface, but I'd be inclined to see how things work out rather than rushing to judgement.

Disclosure: I have donated to Simon's fund. I won't give my personal reasons for doing so, other than to say I did so on the basis of trust. Anyone who's spent time with, or worked with Simon, will know he is a modest & generous gentleman of the highest order. He's also a very private man, so his fund description is most likely not revealing full detail of the challenge he faces. I am fully confident he will do the right thing by his family, by others, & by the people who've supported him.

I'm someone who supports all manner of causes on a regular basis. Of course, I can't support / fix everything, & most of my support is random paying forward close to home, but I have donated to other causes associated with these terrible fires too.

This is in no way an encouragement for anyone to donate, nor am I trying to change anyone's take on it. Just pointing out that everything is not always as it first appears.
So....your post left me thinking this-if what you say about Simon were "as true" as you make it seem... Wouldn't a "modest and generous man" quietly go about the business of "rebuilding his life"...and shouldn't the people who have been touched by the life of the "modest and generous man" take up the torch on his behalf?

But maybe this represents a generational and a cultural shift? I know that in my life I was raised NOT to ask for help in non-life threatening situation. You dug in and you dealt with it. Not saying people didn't help-they did. But it is the asking part that has changed. I see GFM pages for people who want to send their kids to soccer camp... Soccer camp? Really? You liive in a $500,000 house and you want people to send your kid to soccer camp?

I think this may have something to do with the reaction you are seeing. They "haves" asking the "have nots" for help....
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I think this may have something to do with the reaction you are seeing. They "haves" asking the "have nots" for help....
I agree. And in addition to the class element, perhaps there's a pushback against social media and the obscene celebrity culture it nurtures.
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I think this may have something to do with the reaction you are seeing. They "haves" asking the "have nots" for help....
I get that, I really do. I'm someone from very humble beginnings & a tougher background than most, so I'm cut from the same cloth in terms of getting stuff done yourself.

As for the motivation for Simon to put up that funding call, I really can't answer that, other than to believe he felt he's doing the right thing in a greater context that perhaps we don't yet appreciate. Donating was a pure leap of faith / trust for me, based on my (limited) direct experience with him. Sometimes, I just follow my gut & roll that way.
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I get that, I really do. I'm someone from very humble beginnings & a tougher background than most, so I'm cut from the same cloth in terms of getting stuff done yourself.

As for the motivation for Simon to put up that funding call, I really can't answer that, other than to believe he felt he's doing the right thing in a greater context that perhaps we don't yet appreciate. Donating was a pure leap of faith / trust for me, based on my (limited) direct experience with him. Sometimes, I just follow my gut & roll that way.
Hey-I have no problem with people doing what they feel is right.... That is what separates us from the animals...lol.

I don't know how I actually feel about it other than pointing out some aspects of it that may have to do with the differing responses to it.
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So after chatting w/ a couple people about this who are talent-buyers and booking agents, I've adjusted my perspective. The conversation was long and went in different directions but they made a salient point that made me delete my post above and my tweet to him.

If Simon was responsible for managing projects and businesses, he probably had to deal with security deposits, bonding, and other out of pocket financial obligations that may not always have backing from a financial institution. Yes, he's probably insured properly but those checks don't always payout immediately when the claim is made. If he's trying to keep projects going, contracts honored, and people employed, he may be very well having to come out of pocket w/o any guarantees of getting that money back. So while it may appear the money is for him, it may actually be to help make sure others connected to his music business don't financially suffer.
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So after chatting w/ a couple people about this who are talent-buyers and booking agents, I've adjusted my perspective. The conversation was long and went in different directions but they made a salient point that made me delete my post above and my tweet to him.

If Simon was responsible for managing projects and businesses, he probably had to deal with security deposits, bonding, and other out of pocket financial obligations that may not always have backing from a financial institution. Yes, he's probably insured properly but those checks don't always payout immediately when the claim is made. If he's trying to keep projects going, contracts honored, and people employed, he may be very well having to come out of pocket w/o any guarantees of getting that money back. So while it may appear the money is for him, it may actually be to help make sure others connected to his music business don't financially suffer.
And therein (possibly) lies the problem...

A GFM page that made a statement to that affect-written by someone close to Simon, with a brief explanation detailing what you just stated, more than likely would have resulted in a much different response-and probably a significantly better chance of donations.

A statement that says "this is Simon and my finance' and I just suffered the loss of our home and studio please donate so we can rebuild our lives" doesn't exactly carry the same weight-or sympathy.

Now, admittedly, under the duress of their loss, they could\should be understood and forgiven for a hastily written request like that.

I think everyone knows or can tell from his videos etc. that Simon is definitely NOT a "celebrity" when it comes to attitude or demeanor...

I appreciate your post Lee, as it has given me a few things to ponder.
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while it may appear the money is for him, it may actually be to help make sure others connected to his music business don't financially suffer.
He should say as much on his go-fund-me campaign then.

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For a complete story that covers everything your readers will want to know, we recommend including the following:
•Introduce who or what are you’re raising money for. If not for yourself, how do you know the person you’re raising funds for? This is where you want to make a personal connection with your donors.
•An overview of what happened (or, your cause).
How the money will be spent. We recommend getting specific, and sharing the costs associated with your goal. Donors appreciate being in the loop about where their funds are going.
•Why this cause means so much to you.
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I think everyone knows or can tell from his videos etc. that Simon is definitely NOT a "celebrity" when it comes to attitude or demeanor...
You have surrounded the word 'celebrity' in scare quotes, so I'm left to assume you're referring to my post above in which I used the term. And that's all good. But since context is absolutely important, consider this hypothetical: You live in Mr. Phillips' neighborhood, and you've also lost your home to the fire. And coincidentally, you also posted a GFM. Do you think you would have $45,000 pledged to your account by 600+ people in two days? That was one half the context of why I used the word celebrity; the other half refers to the hangers-on of social media who would imagine themselves celebrities too.

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DSOP, all very good points. I'll add that I'm not sure I'd have the full presence of mind to be so clear about it immediately. When my basement flooded one year ago this month, I made some decisions about how to deal w/ it afterward that I wish I had thought out a bit more. At the time, I had the fog of the unknown and never having had this happen to me and felt that I needed to do something. None of the decisions or actions were wrong, but if I had more mental clarity, I would've done a few things differently. I was dealing with about 10" of water in a part of the house I really don't live in. I can't imagine my entire household and all of my possessions going up in flames, my significant other barely getting out, all the while I'm miles away, unable to do anything.

So yeah, the GFM page should and could be more clear and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt given that my experience, I can empathize as to where his mind is or isn't at the moment.
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So yeah, the GFM page should and could be more clear and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt given that my experience, I can empathize as to where his mind is or isn't at the moment.
Yes, but you don't come up with a number like $200,000 out of thin air. There is obviously something behind it. He doesn't need to be explicit, but something would help.
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You have surrounded the word 'celebrity' in scare quotes, so I'm left to assume you're referring to my post above in which I used the term. And that's all good. But since context is absolutely important, consider this hypothetical: You live in Mr. Phillips' neighborhood, and you've also lost your home to the fire. And coincidentally, you also posted a GFM. Do you think you would have $45,000 pledged to your account by 600+ people in two days? That was one half the context of why I used the word celebrity; the other half refers to the hangers-on of social media who would imagine themselves celebrities too.

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Honestly, I never gave your post a thought when I typed the post your reference above...wasn't even, and still not thinking about it in the slightest....

As to "scare quotes" (did it again....lol), I am (again, quite honestly) nit even aware that they are or were even called "scare quotes". I merely wanted to set the idea of a "celebrity" apart from who I take Simon to be-an artist, musician, and producer... To me a "celebrity" would be more inline with how someone like Gene Simmons behaves, as opposed to how someone like Simon Phillips behaves.

No harm....sorry if I offended you.
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There is this assumption that Simon is rich. Who here is aware how much he earns, or is familiar with his expenses? It's all speculation. Don't judge another man until you walk in his shoes for a while. I hope that Simon and his loved ones are able to rebuild their lives and home. They have my sympathy.
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There is this assumption that Simon is rich. Who here is aware how much he earns, or is familiar with his expenses? It's all speculation. Don't judge another man until you walk in his shoes for a while. I hope that Simon and his loved ones are able to rebuild their lives and home. They have my sympathy.
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